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Talks between Khartoum & Juba on oil break down despite AUHIP efforts

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January 17, 2012 (KHARTOUM) – The African Union High Level Implementation Panel (AUHIP) led by former South African president Thabo Mbeki has failed to convince the delegations from Khartoum and Juba to return to the negotiation table in Addis Ababa and sort their dispute over oil fees.

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Chairman of the African Union High Level Implementation Panel (AUHIP) and former South African president Thabo Mbeki (AFP)

South Sudan’s chief negotiator Pagan Amum who is also the Secretary General of the Sudan people Liberation Movement (SPLM) said that Khartoum “poisoned” the negotiation atmosphere.

Amum at a press conference also faulted Sudanese president Omer Hassan al-Bashir saying he forsook a “golden opportunity” to solve his country’s economic woes.

According to press reports, South Sudan demanded that its northern neighbor pay an equivalent of 1.4 million barrels of oil to resume talks.

The Sudanese foreign ministry spokesperson Al-Obeid Marwih accused Juba of lacking seriousness and revealed that the negotiations that were scheduled to start on Monday have not commenced yet amid attempts by Mbeki to jump-start it.

Marwih said that the Sudanese delegation submitted its position on the service fees South Sudan should pay for using oil infrastructure on its territories and the arrears that have accumulated as a result of non-payment by Juba.

The AUHIP has been mediating for months between the two countries in frantic efforts to bridge differences over the issue of oil transit fees.

Sudan is insisting on a payment of $36 per barrel which South Sudan claims is excessive compared to international norms.

The Sudanese government has started implementing a law it adopted last year allowing the finance ministry to seize goods as a form of payment if the exporter does not pay the required fees.

Amum told Associated Press that Sudan is stealing oil “that would be the equivalent of purchasing two new pipelines a year, every year.” Amum said an oil company on Monday alerted the south’s government of another 750,000 stolen barrels worth $140 million.

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  • 18 January 09:22, by Chukudum

    Now it is clear that Arabs doesnt know how to do business, if a rich man go pass your door and offers you some cash, the only thing to say is ’’pliz next time dont hesitate to pass via this road’’ but if you give him a blow, this rich dude might fine other ways to meet his rich friends at that other end.
    Khartoum should look at us as good investors than threatening the cake of their own economy.

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    • 18 January 19:43, by Equatoria dominated SPLM

      as garang said ya Chukudum ,mbeki is actually against our goverment since but after all we don care as long we gate our independent.any way issue of Abyei we are going solve it throught foxtrot [fighting] even if they disagree themselves.

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  • 18 January 09:31, by Sir. Nostalgic

    That is another sign of weakness again. How can 1.4 millions dollars robbed by force? SPLM led government should think twice and adjust quickly.

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    • 18 January 13:23, by mohammed ali

      Nostalgic, you are absolutely right!Pagan wants Sudan to pay him the equavelant of 1.4 million barrels of oil ( not dollars) guss for what? Just for his royal highness to start talking and attend the negotiation!Waw, he is very tough, strong...bla..bla he is a super power!

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      • 18 January 13:35, by Daniel Buolmawei

        Mohammed, your disappearance for all this week meant you felt the embarrassment of this rampage theft from Sudan. I have never seen or heard anything like this huge robbing theft in the history of mankind.

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        • 19 January 01:15, by Corrector

          This is not theft. This is rightful compensation for the use of the Sudan’s infracstructure and resources. South Sudan has no inherit right to use Sudan’s infrastucure and its reasonable for Sudan, just like any country to charge for the use of its infrastructure. This cannot and will not be viewed as theft under any international law. Get over it.

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          • 19 January 01:44, by Hardball

            Corrector, what you’re saying is not making any sense, who are the Southerners that are using your infrastructures and the one that are condemning you of stealing?

            If it’s true that they are using your pipeline, why don’t you ask them to pay first, and if they refused, then why don’t you deny them using the infrastructures? Please, stop the none-sense!

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            • 19 January 15:30, by Corrector

              Its either you lack an understanding of the English language or you struggle applying critical, clear and logical thought process. The Sudan has asked s.sudan to pay for its use of The Sudan’s national pipeline. S.sudan is unmotivated to reach an agreement. The Sudan has barred ships from loading any oil effectively shutting off the pipeline, much to S.sudan’s dislike. Get your facts right.

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      • 19 January 00:58, by Elijah B. Elkan

        Mr. Ali, Don’t be condensing to Mr. Pagan Amum to his intellectual ability. Those inbred in north Sudan have no clue how to ran a country. All they know is how read Koran which they do not understand. North Sudan must be punish for lying, and stealing south Sudan resource for last 50+ years. North Sudan need to pay Saudi Arabia $billions for help they gave you during civil war to fight south Sudan

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  • 18 January 09:33, by Chol A.

    If the negotiation failed this time than stop the pipeline please ROSS, Khartoum were now become headache on us. they just playing you arround while they still continuing with pumping and holding you on negotiation which will take years with no conclusion and no proper agreement all.

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  • 18 January 09:33, by Garang Abuk

    Mbeki can not make an honest broker in the post secession issues given his business holdings with Bashr’s family. Who choose him to be a mediator any way? After all he and his mentor Mandela were against our late leader John Garang because they both don’t believe in armed struggle. They wanted Garang to do it South African way. Would it have worked? Shame on Mandela.

    Garang Abuk

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  • 18 January 10:11, by ebony

    Pagan..why don’t you close the oil valve and build your own pipline

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    • 18 January 10:31, by Lorolokin

      Why is the Juba running after Khartoum for the Oil exportation ? Khartoum need action than talks. SHUT DOWN THE PIPELINE AND LET THEM GO TO HELL WITH THE CHINESE.I wish I could be ............ otherwise.
      Kinkak.

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      • 18 January 11:18, by Gabriel KK

        You are Loro, Our MPS are sleeping and our enemy is busy day and night looting our oil. Khartoum must know that our generation is diffrent from the old ones. Khartoum will face the consequences as a result of breaching the agreements.

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  • 18 January 10:35, by kuac Agol

    The oil company is also responsible for the stolen barrels,because they should be more vigilant and report the incident immediately to S.Sudan govt rethar than confessed lately and denied their past involvement.

    GOSS should show their seriousness to this company who is serving two interests of two govts.

    My comment to you is to find another company who is not having Bashir loyalities.

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  • 18 January 10:50, by Jalaby

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Thief Pagan Amum you already "poisoned" the situation before even it starts by giving negative declarations to media! We already taking our fees upfront everyday and you will do nothing other than crying, you can’t stop pumping the oil because nothing you will find to loot!

    Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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  • 18 January 10:58, by Jalaby

    You guys are still believing that everything in north is your right to use, pipeline, refinaries, Port Sudan, open borders, stay in north, have dual citizenship, etc, wake up, you’re no longer belongs to Sudan! if we steal your oil, why don’t you just stop pumping the oil and search for another gateway?! you’re so funny!

    Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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    • 18 January 18:11, by Justice prevailer

      Jalaby, or whoever u called yourself
      listen carefully, no south sudanese will ever claim any of what you mentioned simply because Southerners having voted for separation means we don’t care about having your things for free, don’t forget we pay for the pipelines bought using our resources money. You really don’t know how to convince your opponent... shame on you really!!!

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  • 18 January 11:02, by Bauer

    Jalaby or whoever. Those pipelines were constructed by China and the NCP government in no way has control. We are suppose to only pay transit fees and that’s it. You don’t have to call Amum a thief because if he was ur dad by now you would be enjoying every single dime he’s got. Cut the crap and come to understand that you people are robbing our economy in broad day light and that is not correct.

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  • 18 January 11:09, by Gabriel KK

    Our Government must shut down the pipe and look for possible means for supporting the army and civil servants until the construction of alternative oil pipeline is done. Sudan our big neighbour is now our big thief and enemy. President Kiir and Mps must do something before is is too late. This is another Iraq and Kuwait game. shame on Sudan.

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  • 18 January 11:13, by Jalaby

    Jonobean,
    You guys are creating a lot of noise to us, you want to use our assests by force and under the fees you decide not we decide!
    If you guys continue to call us thieves and disturb us we will invade you and take control of Juba and rule you again! be careful!

    Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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    • 18 January 18:22, by Justice prevailer

      Jalaby, if you are like one of the guys who are just brought from one of the deserts immediately to the Town or Khartoum, i want to tell you that there are international laws that deal with how much to pay, there is an international fee that one has to pay when using another’s pipelines not just any price from your thief minds we are working with international laws.

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      • 18 January 18:31, by Justice prevailer

        Jalaby, concerning your comment that when we(southerers) call u thieves again u will invade us, ok its fine u r thieves and thieves and thieves and thieves, what will do u think 2012 is like 1920’s when people invade people or u think the southerners of now are like the one of 1920’s... please and please if you are illiterate just trained how to write bullshits on internet, stop that buddy.

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  • 18 January 11:22, by Jalaby

    Jonobean,
    Just a simple question, few days ago South Sudan oil minister had mentioned that south Sudan is paying the oil transition fees to Sudan government, if that’s true, why thief Pagan Amum came to Addis Ababa? discussing what with north?.
    You guys are thieves and liars too!

    Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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    • 18 January 12:28, by Dassi

      There is one thing about Jalaba which makes them the most backward people one earth, they dont see beyond there nose. Histoty has proven how determinent and patient Junubeen are, we have fought for more than 50 years to gain our independence at the end we took it. You steel as much as you can today because tomorrow when we divert our oil you will come begging regretfuly but will get nothing.

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      • 18 January 12:39, by Lang

        Don’t respond to the troll. He’s so desperate for attention. Ignore it.

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    • 18 January 12:43, by Garang Abuk

      Jalaby,

      Remember invading South Sudan is not as easy as you. Tell your guys in uniform to do it and they ask you to shut up. Because they they know how difficult it is. If they try they will go back with bloody noses. During the war your SAF could not subdue the then guerilla SPLA. How they now defeat the better organise national army- SPLA? Go and take refuge in your dream world ignorant Jalab

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  • 18 January 12:44, by Lang

    These talks are so useless, they are going no where. GOSS should just end relations all together with North Korea..I mean Sudan and shut off the pipeline.

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  • 18 January 13:36, by ONEK-JAH

    I’m tired of listening to the same complains of oil being stolen, GOSS must just take measures against those desert mafias in protecting the country resources, for how long can we share the property of our own land at equal portion with other country,
    Onek-Jah

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  • 18 January 14:04, by Jalaby

    Thief Pagan Amum was getting his popularity among southerners because of his hatred to north so they look to him as hero because he fights with Arab, their eternal enemy in the north but as soon as south separates thief Amum has become no value and no use in the south that ..

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    • 18 January 22:11, by Elijah B. Elkan

      Mr. Jalaby, With all due respect to you sir, the inbred in north Sudan must be punish, by paying punitive damages to south Sudan for stealing their oil. Khartoum must pay south Sudan 5.8 millions before any talks resumes. Bahsir is the most world wanted criminal and he should hang for killing millions of it’s citizens.

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  • 18 January 14:06, by Jalaby

    that’s why Mr. Kiir fired him, his tribe is Chulluk in the south, so he has no real weight and no danger can come from his side. Now he is again fighting with Arab, he is trying to get some momentum and gain more popularity among southerners so Mr. Kiir can change his mind!

    Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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    • 18 January 14:50, by Dengda

      The Khartoum regime intention is clear sice day one, the message to juba led government is , take care when you are about to catch thief! I would. Recommend to juba government to stop oil production and review Chinese position in this crisis, as. It act as double edges sword.

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    • 19 January 04:08, by Wed Deng

      Jalaby,
      you sudanese will get surprise when it comes to the action still consisting looting our oil by theft way which does not shows the responsibility manner and that is why the very folish president Omar is wnated by the ICC.the days for him are numbered not exceeding 60 days to be handed over to ICC, believe me Mr. Jalaby.action means is less from you only that the theft way leaved from you.
      w

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  • 18 January 15:04, by Samuel Mabior

    South Sudanese Parliament should just sit down and agree for closure of the Oil Pipe, we will never reach any agreement with Arabs, the best and friendly Arab is the dead one, the living arabs never tell the truth....

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  • 18 January 16:46, by jong jong dog

    we southerns we don’t know what we want sometimes. we have quited our land for northners( khartoum is dinka land, shendi means achan dit,Toti is for chief tut of nuer.we cornered our self in 1/3 of sudan.now we are asking northerners to trasit our oil freely(where on earth that happens).so we either pay them the resonible fees or we tie belts around our bellies and eat tree leaves untill the pipe

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    • 18 January 17:38, by pabaak

      Jong Jong, you are right, even Omdurman, called Wen Dhourman," child searching the mother" and ther’s also Jezera Tuti, which as the name suggested is belonging to Nuer name, so there is no arab claim in Sudan, it was a mistake to agree for 1956 as our border, in fact the CPA has given Arab in Sudan more than they expected, by the way until now we don’t have a recognized border, that is ok for us

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  • 18 January 16:53, by jong jong dog

    until the pipe line is constructed through Kenya or Uganda or even up-hill to Ethiopia, mind you it is not free it may be even worse the one of Khartoum.

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  • 18 January 19:42, by Tambura

    Stop oil that is it

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  • 18 January 19:58, by JohnGarangFreedom

    Both South Sudan and North Sudan’s government both need to stop "Hardball game tricky politics." In long runs, it might not help to amend good relationships between two nations.

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    • 18 January 21:51, by Elijah B. Elkan

      Mr. J. G. Freedom, Little education is very dangerous. Learn the history of the new country. You sir lost 2.5 millions and your comments are so idiotic to the common senses. First, north Sudan has been doing this for almost 60 years. Second, south Sudan is less than 7 months old. The inbred in north Sudan are born liars, thief’s and cheaters and they should not be trusted.

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  • 18 January 21:42, by molana

    i dont believe in Thabo Mbeki since he arrived Sudan, his footsteps are not transparent

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  • 19 January 01:23, by allan

    I thought muslim dont steal what is all this stealing oil like twic

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  • 19 January 01:27, by Elijah B. Elkan

    The African Union is joke. How can African Union negotiate with the world most wanted criminal... Bashir. Mr. Mbeki is nothing but subservience to the inbreeds Arabs. Bashir and his cohorts need to hang for crimes against humanities in Darfur and the killing of millions of it’s citizens.

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