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June 21, 2011 (KHARTOUM) – The Sudanese president Omer Hassan al-Bashir on Tuesday threatened to shut down the pipelines that transfer oil from the landlocked South to Port Sudan on the Red Sea unless a revenue sharing deal is reached by next month.

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Sudan’s President Omar Hassan al-Bashir addresses supporters in Port Sudan, capital of Red Sea State June 21, 2011 (Reuters)

South Sudan is a little over two weeks away from declaring its independence officially which came after the referendum held last January which resulted in an almost unanimous vote in favor of secession from the North.

But several contentious post-referendum arrangements have yet to be agreed on between the ex-foes mainly including border demarcation, citizenship, splitting national debt and oil sharing. The latter is a sensitive issue as both sides are largely dependent on oil proceeds to fund their budgets.

The ruling National Congress Parity (NCP) and Sudan people Liberation Movement (SPLM) are negotiating a compromise on those items among others with the mediation efforts of the African Union (AU) in the Ethiopian capital.

While the south holds around 75% of Sudan’s oil reserves, the north has the refineries and pipelines. The south needs Khartoum’s co-operation to sell its oil; the north needs revenues from its neighbor’s resources.

Currently the North and the South are splitting the proceeds of crude in accordance with the terms of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) signed in 2005.

Southern officials initially said that they could temporarily continue the oil sharing formula but as relations between the NCP and SPLM deteriorated sharply in recent months the idea was dropped.

Today the Sudanese leader said that Southerners have three options with regard to the oil.

"I give the south three alternatives for the oil....either the north continues getting its share, or we gets fees for every barrel that the south sends to Port Sudan," Bashir told supporters at a rally in Port Sudan.

"If they [Southerners] don’t accept that, we’re going to shut down the pipeline," he added.

Bashir slammed statements by Southern officials in which they threatened to deny the North "even a single gallon of oil".

"We will not beg or accept their conditions. Our choices are known to them; splitting [oil revenue] or our full right in the oil that passes through our land or let them find another exporting alternative," he said.

South Sudan president Salva Kiir has reportedly discussed with Kenya’s president Mwai Kibaki this month the possibility of using Kenyan ports to export its oil. However, some analysts have questioned the feasibility of such a venture.

Officials in North Sudan have stepped up their warnings over the economic impact of the South’s secession on the economy.

Last week the minister of finance and national economy Ali Mahmood Hassanein said that the North will lose 36.5% of its income after the South goes away. He said there are contingency plans are in place that aim to cushion the fallout.

Currently the economy in the North is marred by soaring inflation rates and chronic shortage in hard currency. Furthermore, Sudan has a crippling $38 billion in external debt.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) in a report released last April said that the North "will need to adjust to a permanent shock" particularly given the limited access to external financing. Sudan is under comprehensive economic sanctions since 1997.

“With oil revenue constituting more than half of government revenue and 90 percent of exports, the economy will need to adjust to a permanent shock, particularly at a time when the country has little access to external financing. The size and nature of the necessary adjustment could have significant implications for growth and macroeconomic stability”, said the IMF report.

Under that scenario, it is also assumed that North Sudan will witness a 10% decline in non-oil GDP to reflect the share of the South in total non-oil economic activity as well as a decline in oil related services; an increase in service receipts to reflect the transportation fees charged for the transportation of South’s share of oil; a decline in both transportation payments and investment income payments to reflect lower oil production; a decline in imports of goods to reflect the shares of the oil sector and the South; an increase in imports of petroleum products to reflect the shortfall in domestic production..

To confront this scenario, the IMF stressed that North Sudan will need to reduce spending, lift fuel subsidies, reduce tax exemptions and enhance revenue administration.

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  • 22 June 2011 08:02, by Khartoum92

    When Southerners want to get rid of GOSS I will personally drive to South to help just give us the signal..

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    • 22 June 2011 08:12, by OMONI_JR

      Dear Southerners,
      When i keep on hearing the word oil-sharing ,is making me sick.
      which countries in the world shares their resources?
      Shame on Arabs.damn

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      • 22 June 2011 17:00, by Emmanuel Attilio Lotidak

        Mr. Omer, as you have said that you are going to close or shut the oil pipe, do you think that we are going to die? For many years you are depending it? you had built Khartoum with this oil,you are prejudice. Since, 1956 we are trying to get our right, you have killed a lot of southern because of oil and until now you are doing that. What i would like to tell you that there are many nations can help us until we will change the direction of the pipe because you don’t want to benefit. there is proverb in arabic language said" al hassana fi monohuol zie sarraf fi gondoul"

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    • 22 June 2011 08:53, by Land-of-Cush

      Yaa Khartoon born in 1992

      I don’t understand why you always running after south Sudanese affairs, if not because of your Islamism and the heart of killing, with terrorism, and genocides that cause Sudan to remain under suspect plus how you always slaughtering black Sudanese in form of murdering.So south Sudan should not get its independent today if you didn’t caring that hand full with blood.

      We will make deal with Kenya soon not later than you will remain with that attitude with murdering.

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      • 22 June 2011 13:40, by Covert

        Bashir, turning off the pipeline is best option for Southerners if you don’t know that!

        It’s like you coming up to me and warns that if I don’t give you my money, you’ll lock up my briefcase when I am the only one with the keys to the suitcase and you don’t.

        It’s hard to believe how reasonable that threat is. South Sudan was on its way to shut it down already.
        There are so many investors out there waiting for it.

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    • 22 June 2011 10:13, by Sala Gai

      Mr.Bashir

      You have right Mr.President Bashir of sharing oil due to your NIF regime which Torrent the Country in blood shed in so many year of war and continuous now in the Southern C and your money lover militia that create instability in our bordering South Sudan.

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    • 22 June 2011 10:28, by Mapuor

      When South went to war it was because of looting of South Sudan resources by the North,so why share?!.We anticipated this scenario & shutting down of pipelines will not harm us in anyway,we want to use our oil sustainably,giving future generations their share,so shutting down of pipelines will not harm us since the oil is not going to rot,moreover,constructing pipelines through Kenya wont take long,it will take shorter time than the time taken by Portsudan route.Haa,people of Eastern Sudan will soon destroy all the pipelines that go to port Sudan & given that pending war the South is not willing to rely on Port Sudan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 22 June 2011 10:31, by Young

      Criminal so called Bashir,threatening South every time what will he gain now that South is almost two weeks to declare it’s independent no more oil sharing and all those revenue sharing.shut it down do we care.If you needs to get little for the Southern oil you should give us your pipes at a reasable cost or else they will dry up.@Khartoum92 we in the South are not intersted in you Arabs to hell what do you understand of GOSS.

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    • 22 June 2011 11:21, by eye-of-an-eye

      Mr. Bashir,
      Your days are over I hope you are ready to go Back to Palestine you homeland, that’s why you try to murder your brothers in the North is you shut the piplines then economy will burry your families in North with no time, by the way, the piplines are not for the north it is for Sudan it was contructed by Chinese for the whole Sudan, we don’t care whether you close, South has indentify what will happen after even if we pay refenaries and transportation fee to Red Sea. we have some positive plans for that we can not discuse by now.

      Notes: the little iol in South Kordufan will not even be given to you if you don’t know!!!! I afraid of re-immigration to middle east which will force you brothers from the North to do so.

      Thanks

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    • 22 June 2011 15:07, by Kolnyang youth

      Bashir should not threat because rich person have alot of solutions we shall have pipeline from kenya and World bank will fund the Republic of South Sudan 4 duration of one year until construction finished .

      Anti-tribalism

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    • 22 June 2011 23:31, by deng

      Khartoum92!

      Is shutting down pipelines too much for intoxicated dictator Al-Bashir? What about calling those who built refinners in the North Sudan and pipelines to Port’s Sudan? I mean China. Did he need help to call them come and shut it down? Then, I sured you if Bashir don’t do it, the ROSS will shut it down indefinitely and don’t even remind us. The ROSS known when, where the secret pipelines that have been enjoy by your murdererous Khartoum’s government for decades to fulfilled the livelihoops of the North would now come to an end.

      Furthermore, I got another idea, what about shutting down refinered and oil pipelines then we shut down River’s Nile? How is that sound? Remember, we don’t give a damn about Egypt and if they want, it will be Ethiopia VS Egypt, Kenya VS Somalia, Tanzania VS Libya, and Republic Of South Sudan VS Republic Of Sudan and call it a third war war what you gonna say sucker? You should remember the only way that is open is the way to hell not heaven if you can’t understand better son of a bit....h.
      Do it now why are you wasting your times with threat after threats who cares? Omar Hassan Al-Bashir don’t have kids and he is under international warranty while he is pooling you in the North Sudan that he got advantage, what kind? continue playing with fire and you will regrets in the near future.

      Dengtimatieep

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    • 23 June 2011 08:56, by Moru na depe

      Sudan’s Bashir not only plan to turn off oil pipelines but has alreday gone beyond poisoning South Sudan’s waters of the nile. Be alert everybody from Nimule to Malakal.This guy is so frustrated and wanted to die with all the South Sudanese

      Moru na depe,

      Tinate!

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      • 23 June 2011 09:17, by Moru na depe

        Truthteller,
        Please be informed that Bashir has poisoned South Sudan’s waters. This morning news is circulating in Juba town that the nile waters has been poisoned.

        Moru na depe,

        Tinate!

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  • 22 June 2011 08:07, by belle loboi

    it is time for change, ye we can

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    • 22 June 2011 09:17, by Dicksons Deng

      Our SPLM should NCP that pipeline is a national resource and that any token Khartoum needs should not be scaring or in form of threats

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  • 22 June 2011 08:37, by Nhomlawda

    If President Omar Al Bashir think his masters in Beijing and New Delhi will accept his radical and irrational decision without consequences on his government then let him switch the oil pipelines off.
    Al Bashir can’t threaten South Sudan to force it into hasty agreement meant to squander South Sudan resources again.
    The exclusive South Sudan oil right given to your NIF/NCP Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists by your former slave and militia Riek Machar Teny-Dhurgon in 1997 cannot be allowed to continue unchecked.
    It is time for South Sudan to make a favourable agreement that only hires pipeline at internationally agreed rate.

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    • 22 June 2011 09:40, by Mr. Truthteller

      Nhomlawda or whatever your real name is,

      I pity you for your shallow understanding and that is why you will never understand the strategy used by Dr. Riek Machar in 1997 to shoot three birds with one stone. That is putting a feeding on the hook into the mouth of jallaba while bringing Americans to support peace in Sudan through that exposure of oil in Bentiu. Bashir was caught while trying to swallow the Nuer oil in the name of peace on self-determination. That also showed Americans that the South is potentially rich and can become an economic zone to the USA if peace is achieved. That was achieved by the oil exposure otherwise, Americans would have thought of the South as a poor area not worthy of wasting time on. Also the other political strategy used by the champion and father of self-determination, Dr. Riek Machar, was to leave Garang vulnerable militarily so that he could succumb to the demand of self-determination which he was blackmailed to reject for so long by northerners inside SPLM/A.

      So, don’t complain now after getting your freedom through strategies attached to the resources of our land in order for you to be free at last. Now what has your uncle done for the last six years of peace on self-determination? No pipeline, no refineries and no port were secured for the last six years. They have been eating money like orphans forgetting that the South would become independent and need pipelines, refineries and port for the export of oil. The money from the oil in Unity state and Upper Nile state, which you ate like orphans, could have built you all those facilities in six years and save you from complaining against Bashir like greedy foolish and visionless thugs.

      One of your officials came abroad here last time to beg for money for GOSS and he was told point blank that his own bank account, leaked out by the Wicky Leaks, can finance the projects he was asking for. And that is one of your greedy and visionless uncles who stole the money among your other uncles. Now why do you complain against Bashir when you had no vision to get prepared for six years? Stupid creatures.

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      • 22 June 2011 10:57, by Nhomlawda

        Truthteller aka Lie Teller – the right name for you

        First correction – Oil in South Sudan was discovered by American and French companies in 1978 – So never lie that Americans and whole western world did not know about oil in South Sudan till it was drilled by Chinese and Indians in 1998.
        You can never get your full rights when you are negotiating on a weak position. I should not elaborate this point much because you know very well the fate of Addis Ababa Peace Agreement and KPA which were negotiated on weak positions. There is no way you can justify that Riek Machar rebellion allied to South Sudan main enemy was helping South Sudan people to get their rights by weakening their true liberation movement and succumb it to the negotiating table fully weakened to extent of having no ability to demand something substantial such as self-determination and separate army to safe guide South Sudan interests in case of resumption of hostilities. It was clear, when Riek Machar surrendered the whole of Upper Nile land and oil to Arabs, NIF/NCP was no longer willing to negotiate peace with SPLA/M mainstream but instead went on military offensive with the morale boasted by Riek Machar surrender to crash SPLA/M throughout Equatoria in 1992, the only SPLA/M stronghold by then. NIF/NCP and Arabs only accepted peace talks and mediation after SPLA/M became strong again and began to wage dreadful attacks against Arabs forces, and Riek Machar militias from 1993 onwards. NCP/NIF only accepted peace after recognizing through several defeats of their forces that SPLA/M had fully recovered from Riek Machar disastrous split of the movement and his wastage of South Sudan manpower and military assets which were deployed to his area.
        So my brother, just accept shame and request for forgiveness from your visionary and resilient brothers who finally brought you freedom on a golden plate after Riek Machar and his followers almost rendered South Sudanese to everlasting slavery.
        On GOSS corruption, the problem is a South Sudan problem not a Dinka problem, do you think Riek Machar and other Nuer members in GOSS are clean people in that corruption? All GOSS elites are corrupt and must be condemned for that behaviour not Dinka officials alone.

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        • 22 June 2011 12:08, by Mr. Truthteller

          Ah Nhomlawda,

          This is why I said from the beginning that I pity you because of your low understanding when it comes to how strategies get implemented. Late John Garang was the only person among your uncles who understood the impact of the strategy used by Dr.Riek Machar from 1991 to 2005.

          Now you just assume that your freedom on self-determination just occured because soldiers had been fighting and shooting guns since 1983 and suddenly peace came on a golden plate in 2005. Can you tell me how that shooting of guns from 1983 on the objective of united Sudan on socialism turned into self-determination for separation. I know you will not, because you don’t know!

          Yes, Americans discovered oil in 1978 in Bentiu, but was closed down and did not even know how huge the reserves are until it was reopened again in 1999 and exposed to them by Dr. Riek’s strategy. Dr. Riek knew that peace with self-determination would come despite Jallaba taking oil. This is based on his strategy that you the shallow minded drunkards will never understand because it is beyond your little brains.

          Americans pushed for unity between Dr. Riek and Dr. Garang in 2002, after Garang became weak and his false promises to Americans that he would remove Bashir without the support from Dr.Riek failed miserably. He was told by Americans to join with Riek on self-determination or else he would risk being cut off from any support. Did you know that?

          When the first protocol of the CPA was signed between the SPLM and NCP in July 2002, just six months after the unification between Riek and Garang, that first protocol was made sure by Dr. Riek that it was on self-determination. Did you know that?

          And when the final peace agreement, CPA, was signed in January 2005, Torit town, where the war began in 1955, was still under the control of the Sudan Armed Forces of Bashir. Did you know that?

          So, you would say we got peace while on weak military position if we could not control Torit up to 2005 when the CPA was signed. But because the CPA came through strategies, not mere military of SPLA, then it came despite Jallaba controlling our key towns of Juba, Malakal, Wau and even Torit, the former base of John Garang.

          Please open your eyes and study wisely how did that peace come. And not only that it came, but it was made sure that it came on self-determination as championed by Dr. Riek.

          You are just blind who only pick fruits falling from a true shaken by Dr. Riek and the Americans, and not forgetting Ngundeng, the unseen powerful prophet behind the fate of South Sudan.

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          • 22 June 2011 14:29, by Nhomlawda

            Truthteller

            There was no unity between Riek Machar and John Garang in a sense you are putting it in your message but the later was persuaded to stop anarchy and mass lootings and killings of civilians in Upper Nile by forgiving Riek Machar and giving him a senior position in SPLA/M so that various Nuer warlords in Upper Nile who were causing mayhems and murdering civilians in masses could gain hope of being forgiven and reaccepted into SPLA/M.
            After Riek Machar narrowly escaped death after his body guards were forcefully disarmed by NIF security agents. He was smuggled out of Khartoum to Nairobi, Kenya by foreign sympathizers without even a single body guard. While in Nairobi, Kenya completely demoralized and planning to go to exile in a western country, some friends of South Sudan in America saw an opportunity to stop anarchy and rampant killings and lootings in Upper Nile created by former Riek Machar supporters turned independent rival warlords.
            The idea as said above was to persuade John Garang to forgive Riek Machar, give him a senior position in SPLA/M and issue a blanket amnesty for all former SPLA/M Nasir faction members and other independent warlords in Upper Nile to re-join SPLA/M Mainstream so that Nuer warlords could be removed from Upper Nile and assigned duties in South Sudan elsewhere so that lootings and killings could stop in Upper Nile region.
            John Garang liked the idea and accepted it so that innocent civilian lives and properties could be spared from those ruthless Nuer warlords. John Garang implemented the idea and all Nuer warlords were removed from Upper Nile region to Rumbek and assign duties in South Sudan elsewhere by 2003.
            So it was not a strategy brought by Riek Machar but Riek Machar was used so that Upper Nile people especially Nuer population could be saved from extinction due to merciless warlords’ activities that included indiscriminate killings, lootings and raping. Of course, Riek Machar benefited in that process and that is why he is a vice president now after being recovered fully wasted and exhausted by his own poor thinking. Pathetic creature!

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            • 22 June 2011 17:47, by dakin

              nholawda
              Ha!
              You are an hypocrite!
              Where on earth dare Garang forgive Riek!
              This is a mockery
              Riek decided to fight for south sudan and Garang the whole Sudan.
              Are in Sudan or South Sudan now???
              What have you liberated in real sense?
              Western equatoria liberation was a work of equatorians themselves, nuer and nubians.
              Yei was a similar story.
              Your madingbor dinka generals by then resigned to cattle keeping and supplying arms to the LRA. Your Bhar Gazal dinka lacks consistency in a battle field. They keep on deserting and deserting every now and then in the face of the enemy!

              You are nothing but a shameful being!

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    • 22 June 2011 15:23, by LL Reuben

      Truth Lie-teller, and Supporter of the Insanes Causes,

      Riek Machar is Bashir former slave. He does not have any future in our country as a politician. Here in Juba when he talked people giggles in a sarcastic manner because he is less than a human. Who can listen to a former slave who sold his people with their resources to his masters in Khartoum.

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  • 22 June 2011 08:38, by Observer

    If presidetn Bashir carries out this threat it will mean that there will be no oil revenue for the North as well not just the South.
    HAs the govenment not thought of that?

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  • 22 June 2011 08:42, by Lorolokin

    Bashir,

    You should thanks God for until this time we are still sharing oil with you but wait after 09/0-7/11 you will not smell your fieces leave alone oil.
    Kordofan oil fields of hagilige will go with the Nubian and Blue nile people.
    Bashir you need to think how you death will be looks like compared to those of your nephew Saddam Hussein and the likes.
    Kinkak

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  • 22 June 2011 08:55, by Joseph Canada

    Bashir think he can still paly this tacktic games all the time.
    Please i beg you to try and shut the Pipeline. furthermore we don’t need to have any relationship with you in the North anymore. The Pipelines will all go to Mombasa Kenya then the Nile water will soon Follow!!. This will even strengthen the East African Ties.. Please Do!!

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    • 22 June 2011 09:28, by Cibaipiath Junub Sudan

      Dear Junubini;
      Bashir want to prove to the world that he is the only powerful man in Africa and would soon declared himself as Deputy to the terrorist sucessor. He might be right to keep on threatening Southerners because, he threatened Southerners and that is why Temporary Agreement on Abyei was signed just because the Abyei agreement signed on 20th June in Addis-ababa has altered Abyei protocol as well as PCA in the Hague. Misseriya are now allowed to have a share in the Abyei administration as well as the Abyei Council. Therefore, Bashir think that he must use the tool "Threatening Southerners" so that he got the 50% oil share from the south. Already Southerners are divided on ethical and political lines.
      If all of us react overwhlemingly just like the referendum exercise and results, Mr. Bashir would immediately withdraw his continue threats.

      It is up to the Southerners to select one of his three options. Otherwise, South Sudan should not keep on receiving threats from Bashir. Oil Pipe lines should be blocked and we need to open a new pipeline or construct our own refinery. It is just a matter of time to do ours. However, those who were after money will they accept perserverance and hardship? I doubt.

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  • 22 June 2011 09:17, by mohammed ali

    (( Bashir slammed statements by Southern officials in which they threatened to deny the North "even a single gallon of oil".))

    This is written in this article . I donnot know what response you would expect.

    It is either you share, pay fees or find an alternative Since you deny me a single gallon, do you meant to have it for free?!

    There should be some logic.This business and it is not run by emotions, anger or hatred.

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    • 22 June 2011 09:32, by sunny

      Hell with your conditions mr. Bashir; the south was there even before the oil discovery.

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    • 22 June 2011 10:47, by Young

      @Mohamed get back read your uncle’s statements well.why do we have to share?infact we will take you Arabs treaders to court because you have exhausted Sudan’s resoures since independent without South getting any single cent? If Bashir carry on threatening South he will see the ever fire.rubbish Arabs i hate you forever...

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    • 22 June 2011 11:19, by Madut Tong

      Mohamed Ali,

      The three alternative given by the President Omer al-Bashir are not logical, they are from selfish philosophy,"I gain you you gain, or I loss you loss" where do you find a deal that a country shares in the resources of another country, or charge by a barrel (because it is the same) and if the country doesn’t accept close down the pipelines. For me let him closed them down, we were even living without patrol for a very long time. You also said before that carry your patrol through whatever you would used but not portsudan. This are selfish conclusions from your head of state and you. But remember that every neighborhood there are dealings always, but if you refused the deal given to you, I think southerners will find an alternative sooner or later, so let him not utters his unbalance and illogical threatens every time.

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      • 22 June 2011 19:20, by mohammed ali

        Madut,

        It a typical stansered international agreement. GoS and GOSS are not negotiating alone. The mediator is the World Bank and it is showing them all the relvent agreements between different countries all over the world.SPLA is rejecting all the proposals.

        It may sound " opportunistic" but this bussiness! Wouldn’t you rise the price of your oil when there is shortage or there is increased demand and vise versa!Hell, you will do.It is the same thing. This the law of the market. When you increase you price , I will increase the cost of passing through my land. You will do the same and I would’t say that is wrong.

        The problem is just emmotinal.SPLA thinks, this is our oil and we will not give the bloody jalabba a single gallon! Well , the jalabba will say: ok I will not let you use my land!Both need each and will continue to do so for centuries to come.A win-win solution is the best for all.

        Even Hillary clinton suggested that oil revenues should be split like in Nivasha.

        Bottom-line thie should not be a matter of dispute, an eady and amicable solution could be reached according to the international norms without any harsh talk from any person.

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        • 22 June 2011 21:03, by Madut Tong

          Mohamed Ali,

          I agree with you that an agreement over the use of the land of Sudan has to be reached according to the international laws. But the way the President Omer al-Bashir issues threats all this time become unbearable. You cannot issue threats to someone who needs you and you need him, you give yourselves time to understand the facets and then agree on what will benefit both parties.

          Observation, the party who is on negotiation is not SPLA but SPLM. so, note that difference between the army and the party. I hope they will reach logical agreement not on the barrel basis or sharing, or shutdown the pipes.

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    • 22 June 2011 16:22, by rock

      the message to Al Bashir`s Government was simple and clear,
      Mr.Mohammed. the letter say after South Sudan get independent then South will be in charge of selling her oil and not Al bashir`s Government anymore.
      so what is a problem here, if bashir has not problem in first place.or you President want tell us that, he will still have hand in South Sudan resources ah ah that go be his daytime dream.
      message to all NCP` supporters and their mujaheddin,threat or any ill intend toward south will not be Tolerate any long so you better seek for good relationship South or otherwise we will be fight each until Jesus come to this world.

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    • 22 June 2011 20:58, by Covert

      Mohammad, shut the pipeline down, we were not going to business with you anyway why bother?
      Why should we rent your equipments when we can afford our own!

      Why should we use Port Sudan when we can use the shortcut from South Sudan to Mombasa?
      If you want us to be peaceful? Then leave us alone!

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  • 22 June 2011 09:30, by Peter Majok Chiengan

    What is this men thinking??????
    What is this people??????
    Are they completly out of thier mind?????
    Howcome to share with another person by 50:50 on his own things?????
    It can’t be, because it is our resources and they are located in our land and belong to our people.
    So you Bashier go away with your pipelines and full it with water.

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  • 22 June 2011 09:34, by Bush

    Let’s GOSS just send Hon. Dr. Aleu A Aleu to talk to Beshir in Khartoum.

    Christians United for Israel

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  • 22 June 2011 09:57, by Lamija Milaja

    Basheir is feeling the heat. Leave him alone, south Sudanese are not arabs in noth who are not aware of their rights.

    Let Basheir bark but the reality is south Sudan has gone with 100% of oil revenue on its soil.

    Eitheir basheir has agreed to be paid fixed amount as a hire for the pipeline or else the pipeline will have no value to Basheir.

    South has abundance of resources and it will not harm south if it stops selling oil in the meantime to find another alternative of selling its oil.

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  • 22 June 2011 10:08, by Mr. Truthteller

    Why is every thing from the north comes as a surprise to Salva Kiir’s leadership? I thought he and his three consecutive ministers of finance from his Bhar el Ghazal region would have avoided corruption and invest also in pipelines to Mombassa, refineries in Unity state or Upper Nile. This would have avoided the current vulnerability from the north after six good years wasted since 2005. Or did they think the South was going to vote for unity. Pathetic!!!

    Nhomlawda or whatever your real name is,

    I pity you for your shallow understanding and that is why you will never understand the strategy used by Dr. Riek Machar in 1997 to shoot three birds with one stone. That is putting a feeding on the hook into the mouth of jallaba while bringing Americans to support peace in Sudan through that exposure of oil in Bentiu. Bashir was caught while trying to swallow the Nuer oil in the name of peace on self-determination. That also showed Americans that the South is potentially rich and can become an economic zone to the USA if peace is achieved. That was achieved by the oil exposure otherwise, Americans would have thought of the South as a poor area not worthy of wasting time on. Also the other political strategy used by the champion and father of self-determination, Dr. Riek Machar, was to leave Garang vulnerable militarily so that he could succumb to the demand of self-determination which he was blackmailed to reject for so long by northerners inside SPLM/A.

    So, don’t complain now after getting your freedom through strategies attached to the resources of our land in order for you to be free at last. Now what has your uncle done for the last six years of peace on self-determination? No pipeline, no refineries and no port were secured for the last six years. They have been eating money like orphans forgetting that the South would become independent and need pipelines, refineries and port for the export of oil. The money from the oil in Unity state and Upper Nile state, which you ate like orphans, could have built you all those facilities in six years and save you from complaining against Bashir like greedy foolish and visionless thugs.

    One of your officials came abroad here last time to beg for money for GOSS and he was told point blank that his own bank account, leaked out by the Wicky Leaks, can finance the projects he was asking for. And that is one of your greedy and visionless uncles who stole the money among your other uncles. Now why do you complain against Bashir when you had no vision to get prepared for six years? Stupid creatures.

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    • 22 June 2011 10:34, by Deng Thiak Adut

      I remembered asking Mr Ageu Jongkuch very specific questions when he visited Australia in about 2009: I said to Mr Jongkuch, that Plan A is to keep sharing the oil revenues with the devil but;
      Do you (GOSS) have Plan B or C since succession is inevitable? How are you going to fund GOSS projects if GOS or GOSS decided to turn off the tap by either of you?
      I did respect Mr Jongkuch responses to my questions, however I kept my sanity to this date and I would further ask the same questions again noting that it is too for Plan B and C….

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    • 22 June 2011 10:35, by Ming Dhal

      Bashir
      The whole world knows very well that you are psychologically disturbed and that why you want every body in Sudan to be like you, because you sleep while thinking of when to be caught and which country to hand you over to ICC. For your information, all what you said are non other than nonsenses
      NB_ Do not come into our colorful celebration b/c we are going to send you to Hague and be ready for fucken external war now civil war again yeah stupid president of no dignity.

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    • 22 June 2011 11:45, by Lorolokin

      Truthteller,

      You make me laugh specially your last words. I thinks these creatures are born like that,am telling you, even those who happened to go to school would still behave like an animal.

      There is an other creature by name Dinka Dominated SPLA/M,worse of all he claim been schooled in Britain,Bro if you follow this man comment in this forum, you will vomit.

      Kinkak

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      • 22 June 2011 16:42, by Abikach Ayuel

        The issue is not about your bad spoken language/grammar but none of u ever gives sensible comments. You have all taken nation as something u joke in the media as u lack sense of shame and not caring that your secrets as a country are leaked daily ! Where do u all come from and what really will benefit u in this tribal hatred u developed ? why do u make your tribes theme of daily talk? think like nationalists but avoid shameless tribalistic acts as I confirm in various aimless comments that u all give ! What is nationalism ? If all of u know what it really means, I don’t think if u wìll attempt to call yourselves Dinka or Nuer or Equatorian think Big and don’t be myopic thinkers with no aim ! I am embarassed to be part of u !

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  • 22 June 2011 10:22, by Sam.Eto

    Look - let me spell for you. maybe your simple minds are having difficulty. He gave your 3 choices - share, pay or off. Like all other countries that export oil they pay fees if oil is transported through another counties land, they pay fees if you use thier refineries. ITS NOT FREE !! lazy creatures want to sit back, get fat with out doing any work or pay for anything.

    You dont want to share ok, no one is twisting your arm. But everyone (not just Bashir) will expect you to pay for the service.

    You have no choice !!! Get it in those small dead grey cells of yours. When you stop drinking.

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    • 22 June 2011 12:26, by Young

      stupid dude so called Sam Etood,shut up your dirty month or else i will screw you.You like defending your husband so called Bashir fake ideas since when can two separate states share revenue or did you not see that article?We are not going to use your husband’s pipes,use them for transporting water if you wants.Arabs salve Sam Etood.

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  • 22 June 2011 10:25, by Sudan virus

    Bashir need the oil in the south but not the people.

    Go ahead human butcher close so we see who supper most in the two Sudans.

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  • 22 June 2011 11:03, by Wanibuluk Ciciliba

    I realy wonder what is going arround without any route. Let us all think here; If Bashir closes the pipelines how will he benefit from it and if South doesn’t want to share, how will they export or refine it?
    The issue of the 3 condition is not any thing difficult to understand and because the South need development fund that must come from the oil revenue and that means the refineries and the pipelines must work, so if the South says they want Kenya to cooperate with have they(South) calculated the bill of constructing the pipe lines to Kenya?
    It’s better to agree with Khartoum to pay them some penny as South prepares that route as plan B yet they will still have to pay to the ever corrupt kenyans who don’t even recognize you as human being.They are exploitative than the ARABS.
    Do you know that kenyans said ’God said in the Bible that Kenya will punish Sudan?’ is that a friend or enemy?
    Wake up junubins soften your relationship with the Arabs than the Kenyans because the Arabs are your cousins whom you understand better.Pay them the charges for exportation.

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  • 22 June 2011 11:41, by Sweetmouth

    Al-Bashir.
    do you think port Sudan the only port?
    where are you going to survive when you shut the pipeline of oil off?
    do not cover your upper parts of your body and left down parts uncover.

    your threaten is nothing to southerners i hope you are digging your grave a lone which is good.
    you are talking of revenues sharing,which revenues?
    shut up!!!!!!!!!
    fucken.

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  • 22 June 2011 12:06, by amokraanthiec ooyee

    Look at this crazy Bashir who claims to have powers over Sudan mind of being not defecating during the day because of ICC,If you block oil pipeline,you block your mother’s gent-ilia.

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  • 22 June 2011 13:24, by Adam

    Hey Southerners,

    Bashir has made up his mind and came up with what you heard. Those who do not understand politics or business should not have doubts that what Bashir has said will be implemented.

    We’re in this dilemma because of the incompetence, shortsightedness and corruption of the GoSS. If we need to build a new pipe then we must wait for years. It won’t be economical too. Topography and security situation to East Africa is not friendly and if we managed to build our pipeline, it will also be very expensive to pump oil to the high coast of Kenya.

    Those who think that we will receive foreign assistance to fully support the new state are dreaming. That will never happen, especially in light of the nasty political atmosphere and the prevailing political dictatorship in the South. I read this morning that the British parliament is anticipating a fail state in the South. Do they have reasons for that conclusion? Think with me!

    As I said many times, we must coexist and cooperate for the mutual interests of our peoples. South cannot make it without the North. The North will not make it either without the South.

    I hope we will not witness serious consequences due to childish and emotional behavior of NCP and GoSS.

    Adam Milawaki, Nairobi

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    • 22 June 2011 13:34, by Adam

      One more thing, are we going to pay transit fees for Kenya or they will just allow us to use their land and ports for free? Can one answer this question?

      Adam

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      • 22 June 2011 15:08, by Mach Achiek

        Adam,

        We are not new to all this types of emotional propaganda,Southern Sudan has never said that it’s going to use Northern territory without paying for transit fees and the port. We are in a World of business, and we know how business is run. The equation is simple here, Southern Sudan is a buyer, while Northern Sudan is a seller. If a seller charge his/her goods and services at a high price, the buyer has a right to go to the next shop in search of cheap materials but of the same quality. That is exactly what Southern Sudan is doing now. Kenya is also a seller like North Sudan,Djibouti via Ethiopia is also another potential seller. Southern Sudan will explore all these potential sellers, and it will go for the cheaper one. It need no Salva Kiir to address the people of Southern Sudan that we are going to transport our oil to Kenya or Djibouti via Ethiopia.

        Regarding the issue of corruption in the government of Southern Sudan, you may be right because it has not delivered what was expected from it within that last six years. But what do you say about the government that have rule the Sudan for 22 years, ruin it to the point of disintegration, killed 2.5 millions of it citizen in the South,and another 300,000 people in Darfur, has started another blood bath in Kordufan without ending the one in Drafur, and Eastern sudan inhabited by the Beja tribe, one of the oldest ethnic group in the Sudan is also at the boiling point.If the Khartoum led governments are immune from corruption; then, what is wrong with the Sudanese nation?. Why is the country fighting herself?.

        I am waiting for your reply.

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        • 23 June 2011 06:58, by Adam

          Dear Mr. Mach Achiek

          Thank you for your polite comment. I cannot agree with you more.

          As for corruption, we have nothing to do with the corruption of the government in the North. Our South Sudan Government received about 11 billion USD and six full years, but was unable to build anything tangible. The money was stolen brother. Our people are suffering and they will continue to suffer because of the continuing incompetence, corruption and shortsightedness of the GoSS. Brother, SPLM/A behavior cannot be changed or improved because there are no Human Resources to depend on. The same old corrupted, ignorant and emotional guys are in power. They are even tailoring a constitution to guarantee their iron grasp on power and wealth.

          Let the Northerners solve their problems and corruption. Let us think how we are going to deal with our leadership plight.

          Thank you brother!

          Adam Milawaki, Nairobi

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      • 22 June 2011 17:55, by Madut Tong

        Adam,

        transit fee is a normal thing in international dealings. when one use the land of another country there are always obligations for the one using it to meet. In the case of Sudan with the south deals are more political the regulations known internationally. I said several times that we have many things common among us, but it seems that the NCP want it all or the south loss. The alternative in this case needs to be decided by GoSS/RoSS, and I think they will not surrender their right because of al-Bashir’s threats.

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    • 23 June 2011 00:31, by mohamad adam

      adam milwaki pleas keep on contributing on this site like the way you think and express your ideas god bless you brother

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  • 22 June 2011 14:10, by American Missile.

    Dear Southerners.

    Bashir his threatens to turn off oilpipelines will not cancel our 9th July 2011. crying frogs at the river bank will not stops cows from drinking water in the river ( meaning that even though he is making noise Day and Night,we will celebrates our Biggest Independent come July 2011. he is just behaving like a dying Horse at backyard.

    However,obseved his mood,is going to have an heart-attacked the Day he will hear Great Happiness of Southerners,July 2011. This man is afailer and he will follow his counterpart Mahamad Gadafi in Libya. Turning off oil pipeline is not a malaria fever to us.

    However,The Temporary Agreement signed in Ethiopian is the one which have alot of tricks from the North, some articles signed in the document did not specific which one to which,especially Police that was mention to control, the police that will be brought into Abyei will be from where? should it be from North or South or both.

    Also,the pastoralist pasture were still allowed to continue coming to Abyei which were they fresh conflicted caused .instead of giving them halt until the Abyei problem is resolved,the encouraged their nagging arguement on every Table of negoitations.
    So, the Document is weak but it was agreed on by two parties.

    Bashir is a dying Horse in Sudan.

    God is with Us despite your threatens.

    Majok Akotdit
    Political And Democracy Activist.

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  • 22 June 2011 14:52, by Nhomlawda

    Riek Machar supporters and all other independent traitors

    Part 1 - Unity between Drs. John Garang and Riek Machar

    There was no unity between Riek Machar and John Garang in a sense you are putting it in your message but the later was persuaded to stop anarchy and mass lootings and killings of civilians in Upper Nile by forgiving Riek Machar and giving him a senior position in SPLA/M so that various Nuer warlords in Upper Nile who were causing mayhems and murdering civilians in masses could gain hope of being forgiven and reaccepted into SPLA/M.
    After Riek Machar narrowly escaped death after his body guards were forcefully disarmed by NIF security agents. He was smuggled out of Khartoum to Nairobi, Kenya by foreign sympathizers without even a single body guard. While in Nairobi, Kenya completely demoralized and planning to go to exile in a western country, some friends of South Sudan in America saw an opportunity to stop anarchy and rampant killings and lootings in Upper Nile created by former Riek Machar supporters turned independent rival warlords.
    The idea as said above was to persuade John Garang to forgive Riek Machar, give him a senior position in SPLA/M and issue a blanket amnesty for all former SPLA/M Nasir faction members and other independent warlords in Upper Nile to re-join SPLA/M Mainstream so that Nuer warlords could be removed from Upper Nile and assigned duties in South Sudan elsewhere so that lootings and killings could stop in Upper Nile region.
    John Garang liked the idea and accepted it so that innocent civilian lives and properties could be spared from those ruthless Nuer warlords. John Garang implemented the idea and all Nuer warlords were removed from Upper Nile region to Rumbek and assign duties in South Sudan elsewhere by 2003.
    So it was not a strategy brought by Riek Machar but Riek Machar was used so that Upper Nile people especially Nuer population could be saved from extinction due to merciless warlords’ activities that included indiscriminate killings, lootings and raping. Of course, Riek Machar benefited in that process and that is why he is a vice president now after being recovered fully wasted and exhausted by his own poor thinking. Pathetic creature!

    Part 2 - Riek Machar sold South Sudanese into Everlasting Slavery in 1991 just to be Al Bashir’s English Interpreter

    Riek Machar made southerners weak as a result of his 1991 rebellion and was it not because of Dinka people strong support of John Garang’s vision and commitment to fine results/outcomes regardless of difficulties, South Sudan was almost gone to savages and Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists.
    You can never get your full rights when you are negotiating on a weak position. I should not elaborate this point much because you know very well the fate of Addis Ababa Peace Agreement and KPA which were negotiated on weak positions. There is no way you can justify that Riek Machar rebellion allied to South Sudan main enemy was helping South Sudan people to get their rights by weakening their true liberation movement and succumb it to the negotiating table fully weakened to extent of having no ability to demand something substantial such as self-determination and separate army to safe guide South Sudan interests in case of resumption of hostilities. It was clear, when Riek Machar surrendered the whole of Upper Nile land and oil to Arabs, NIF/NCP was no longer willing to negotiate peace with SPLA/M mainstream but instead went on military offensive with the morale boasted by Riek Machar surrender to crash SPLA/M throughout Equatoria in 1992, the only SPLA/M stronghold by then. NIF/NCP and Arabs only accepted peace talks and mediation after SPLA/M became strong again and began to wage dreadful attacks against Arabs forces, and Riek Machar militias from 1993 onwards. NCP/NIF only accepted peace after recognizing through several defeats of their forces that SPLA/M had fully recovered from Riek Machar disastrous split of the movement and his wastage of South Sudan manpower and military assets which were deployed to his area of command.
    So my brother, just accept shame and request for forgiveness from your visionary and resilient brothers (Dinka) who finally brought you freedom on a golden plate after Riek Machar and his followers almost surrendered South Sudanese into everlasting slavery.
    On GOSS corruption, the problem is a South Sudan problem not a Dinka problem, do you think Riek Machar and other Nuer members in GOSS are clean people in that corruption? All GOSS elites are corrupt and must be condemned for that behaviour not Dinka officials alone.

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  • 22 June 2011 16:59, by Kim Deng

    Garang’s disciples,

    In war, the skin of Fox is at times as necessary as that of a Lion, for cunning may succeed when force fails. Speaking from his underground rally, in a message to his subordinates in 1983, he declared that "the first bullet must be fired against the separatists [Anya-Nya II], as an attempt to impose his self-claimed "New Sudan," vision on Southern Sudanese and hijacked the movement from its founders [separatists] altogether, coincidence?

    Dr. Riek Machar Teny-Dhurgon was compelled to declare Nasir move, not only because Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang was running the movement like his own property which was acknowledged by Mr. Slava Kiir after it was already too late in 2004 when he find himself openly at odds with his superior, but due to lack of clear directions, objectives, principles and human rights for/in the movement.

    http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article27738

    http://www.africa.upenn.edu.Hornet/sd_machar.html

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  • 22 June 2011 17:10, by Runrach

    I thought Bashir would have appreciated Southerners for many successes his NCP/NIF has been making so far through Southerners resources.Without any doubt I personally understood his three options threat and if I were Southerner’s president I would have simply tell him please shut down your bloody pipeline and leave us alone, I don’t a well wealthiest nation can lack some nations do a better with.
    I am very proud that Bashir said that should not beg Southerners instead he have said thank you South for letting us used your resources in financing our struggle against you.Once again, my prediction is that,Northern Sudan will the poorest of all in the world and their national debts will never be lifted. Indeed, It was this Southerner’s oil that gave them credit in Arab nations as well as Russia, China and Iran including all Islamic extremist,let’s wait and see they will come to confess in good faith. Thank to NCP finance minister who have did a real rearch about the possibilties his notorous country economic is gonna be, we like those who admit the truth rather than denial the truth.Hope to see you after July the 9.

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  • 23 June 2011 01:33, by TheRealSudan

    Economics 101

    Oil makes up 98% of South Sudan’s GDP
    Oil makes up 40% of North Sudan’s GDP

    Who suffers more when the oil stops flowing - you do the Maths

    Simple Business Logic

    I have a pipeline that you want to use - ok what do you want to pay me to use it? Oh you don’t to pay me - no problem don’t use it

    Is it really that difficult to understand? seriously?

    Please understand for your own good - Oil on your side of the border is 100% yours - but you are a landlocked country if you want to sell that oil then come talk to me and we can do business

    Ok you want to build your own pipeline that is a very good idea - you should definitely do that - good luck

    You want to use your imaginary pipeline to threaten me - very good negotiation skills - I like that

    Just one thing - I know and you know - that you had $11bn (YES THAT’S RIGHT US DOLLARS 11,000,000,0000) over the past 6 years and you haven’t even been able to build 50km of roads - do you really think this is a credible threat? really?

    C’mon you know I wasn’t born yesterday. Can we talk like grown men please.

    Real recognise real. Remember that.

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    • 23 June 2011 07:17, by Ahmado

      Ithink Bashir you are correct with your terrior decesion the soon as you do it is better.If south declare their independent therefore north sudan will not get any percent of share oil.

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  • 23 June 2011 07:51, by Dinka-Defender-General

    GOOD TRY BASHIR, WE, THE SOUTHERNERS WILL NEVER BE FEARING FOR YOUR GREEDINESS AND THREATEN TO CUT OFF THE PIPPELINE. WE CAN BUILD ANOTHER PIPPELINE FROM SOUTHERN SUDAN TO MABUSSA, KENYA. SORRY, WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT YOUR DEMMANDS. YOU WILL NEVER GET NO CENT FROM US. YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU ALREADY TAKEN FROM YOUR LAND SUCH AS BILLIONS WORTH MONEY. GOOD LUCK...

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  • 23 June 2011 15:28, by Tombe Wani

    it should not be a threat......go ahead and do it, it will not affect us, we the peasants(Majority) because we’re adapt to our ways of life... SPLA/M is just bunch a thieves/looters/corrupt fellas who have/has obscenely robbed this baby country naked at expense of millions who lost their lives.
    The people who slaughtered the bull have so decided to cut their pieces and share it amongst themselves, families, relatives and close friends meanwhile as the country head to the dogs...
    Is it not the Pope who said ’’thou shall not be obscenly rich’’

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