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Sudan President Al-Bashir threatens to wage war in South Kordofan, says Abyei will “remain northern”

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April 27, 2011 (KHARTOUM) – Sudan President Omer Hassan Al-Bashir has reiterated claims that the contested oil-producing region of Abyei belongs to the north, and threatened to wage war in the border state of South Kordofan if the newly independent South Sudan opted for confrontation there.

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Sudan President Omar Al-Bashir (FILE)

Ownership of Abyei region is claimed by both north and south Sudan, which voted earlier this year to secede in a referendum promised under the 2005’s Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) which ended nearly half a century of intermittent north-south civil wars.

Abyei’s status was supposed to be decided in a referendum vote in January, but north and south Sudan disagreed on whether members of the north-backed tribe of al-Messriya, whose nomads cross over to Abyei for a few months a year to graze their cattle, should be allowed to vote alongside the south-linked tribe of Dinka Ngok.

In an inflammatory speech he delivered on Tuesday, Al-Bashir laid stress on the north’s ownership of Abyei. "I say it and repeat it for the million times, Abyei is northern and will remain northern," he declared.

Meanwhile, a senior official from Al-Bashir’s ruling National Congress Party (NCP) has warned that the north would revoke its recognition of south Sudan’s independence if the latter claims ownership of Abyei in its constitution.

South Sudan lays claim to Abyei in its draft constitution, which is due to be adopted after the region officially gains independence in July.

Al-Dirdiri Ahmed, the NCP’s official in charge of Abyei dossier, told the pro-government website Sudan Media Center that his party rejects any mention of Abyei as located within the borders of South Sudan in the region’s draft constitution. He warned that his party would reconsider its recognition of South Sudan state if its new constitution states that Abyei is part of the south.

Al-Bashir, who was addressing a public rally in Al-Mujlad town in South Kordofan, where the NCP will vie in long-delayed gubernatorial and legislative elections due to be held on May 2, threatened that his party was ready to reignite war if the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM), which controls South Sudan, thinks of entering war in south Kordofan.

South Kordofan saw violent incidents ahead of the sensitive vote when the paramilitary Popular Defense Forces (PDF), allegedly backed by the NCP’s incumbent candidate in gubernatorial elections Ahmad Harun, attacked El-Feid earlier this month, killing 17 people and burning hundreds of houses.

Al-Bashir said that the SPLM would incur a great loss if it thinks of going back to the square of war in South Kordofan, warning that the movement must submit to the will of ballot boxes “or else boxes of bullets will decide the matter.”

President Al-Bashir and his candidate Ahmed Harun are both wanted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) against the background of atrocities committed during a government counterinsurgency campaign in the western region of Darfur, where an eight year conflict killed thousands of people and displaced millions.

Al-Bashir’s statements have sparked a response from the SPLM whose candidate in South Kordofan’s gubernatorial elections, Abdul Aziz Adam Al-Hilu, deplored Al-Bashir speech as a declaration of war.

“We condemn Al-Bashir’s Mujlad speech in which there was nothing but the language of war while we advocate peace,” Al-Hilu said in a press conference, adding that “the head of state who calls for, and preach, war should end Darfur war first.”

Al-Hilu said that his party had been warning the NCP against transforming South Kordofan State into a forefront of war against South Sudan and using the state’s people as fuel for this war.

The SPLM’s candidate went on to accuse the NCP of violating the elections law by engaging in fraudulent practices and using state-resources to support Harun’s electoral campaign, citing as an example the live-broadcasting of Harun’s speeches by the national T.V which is funded for by the Sudanese taxpayer.

South Kordofan’s election was postponed from April 2010 as the country held nationwide elections due to disagreements over the 2008 census and delimitation of geographic constituencies.

Under the CPA, the state is also due to hold popular consultations after the elections in order to decide whether the agreement has met the aspirations of its citizens and resolve any outstanding issues related to the agreement’s implementation.

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  • 28 April 2011 08:55, by Omoni jr

    Al Bashir with AK47????
    The guy is like mad cow!!!! wage war to south kordofan!!
    why you did not say directly that you want lunch military campaign to south sudan? OR you misspelled it?
    And you are right hand officials said they can Revoke our right of self determination if we are going to singing about ABYEI??? Just do it right now and see what gonna happen..
    It will be a doom day for all arabs world.

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    • 28 April 2011 10:17, by Mr. Truthteller

      Dear South Sudanese,

      I do agree with Bashir’s threat of war and reconsideration of the recognition of South Sudan independence despite the fact that I wish that Abyei should also come South. The reason is that we should not include Abyei as part of South Sudan constitution now before its case is finally settled through referendum as stipulated in the CPA, or by Bashir’s presidential decree returning it to South Sudan.

      We would sound stupid, irrational and acting on illegal basis if we insist that we prematurely annex Abyei as part of the South Sudan independent territory. Abyei by 1956 north-south borders falls on the North Sudan side since 1905, when it was transferred there by the British colonial administration with the consent of their late chief Majok Deng. How can we jump up with emotions to illegally annex it to the South without any formal processes?

      John Luk should not be too excited to have headed the constitutional review committee to the extent of provoking a situation that will take South Sudan proper back to war and lose what we have gained (South Sudan independence). The world will not side with us on this matter because it is not the right way to do it. Take Abyei out of South Sudan constitution. Just use the word in the constitution such as “if and when” or “in case” Abyei joins the South, it will be part of the South Sudan proper.

      I know those of Deng Alor, Luka Biong, think they are clever to drag the whole South back to war using their tactic of including Abyei in the constitution. This will not help Abyei and will also harm the South. Bashir has now threatened to reconsider its recognition of South Sudan independence if Abyei is included. He is very right because he recognized the South Sudan territory as stood from January 1956 according to CPA. Why would he continue with his recognition now if we illegally bring in Northern territories into the South? He will refuse it and the war will resume and we will lose his most important needed recognition.

      Don’t forget that Bashir’s recognition is the one that will make it easier for other nations in Afirca and the rest of the world to follow suit with ease!

      Please if you want Abyei back to South Sudan in the near future take it out of the South Sudan constitution. Take the Nuer wisdom which says if you want to eat a big chunk of meat, don’t try to swallow it all at a go because you will get choked in your throat. Mince the meat into small pieces and swallow one piece at a time until you will have eaten all the meat.

      This is why I like Dr. Riek Machar’s strategies that have brought us to the CPA and to the referendum, and now independence in July. This is because he was the one chairing all the negotiations from 2005 up to 2010. That defused the situation and led to the success of the referendum.

      Ngundeng predicted that when his Luak (South Sudan) breaks away from the North, there will be a community the ’rol’ or Jallaba will turn away with. This community could be Dinka Ngok, if you are not careful in handling their case.

      If you do it emotionally and illegally this time round, you will lose both Abyei and recognition of South Sudan by Bashir and many other African countries and the rest of the world and the SPLM will be blamed for the stupidity. Do it wisely and not emotionally.

      Let the South raise its flag on July 9 and make some necessary preparations while continuing negotiations with Khartoum over the issue of Abyei. We can discuss it for sometime until the end of 2011 using other post-independence channels.

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      • 28 April 2011 12:46, by Waucity

        truthteller, you are just consumed by selfishness..Show us your selfishness and we will show you ours..no problem..BUT let me remind you that there was no ligitamte process that made ABYEI part of the north, British authority in Sudan at that time was an illegal authority, not even in Sudan but throughout Africa..Also Southern Sudan was part of entire Sudan but it became Separate based on the will of the people and so the same will happened in Abyei too...People will decide where it will go..You are so stupid, you wrote in entire article but very empty with no single logic in it..Shame on you.

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      • 28 April 2011 13:07, by Emilio Leon Choko

        Mr. Bashir always taking wrong ways, this is not the ancient time of childdish, that’s not a threat to us the Southerners, we born&grew in war, all he mentioned about Abyei, is like he has already draige all the southerners blood and leave them with dry bodies, how do you think a creature can live without blood in its body, we can’t survive in South Sudan without Abyie and otherparts of South Sudan, Is our land, is our future in blood, those who are cowards can retreats but to me never unless after my death, we have been negotiating for good time but its seem like a diging a hole in a hardrock in Didinga mountain, when ever will happen after indepedence will be also judge acordingly. a looser/coward always take sharp weapon to secure his escape.

        What always Barshir decides will destroy relationship between our brothers northerners and South Sudan if he is not careful, he will double loosing otherwise. He have forgotten that a huge part of South is still remain in North and we shall go for it.

        2011 is the year of a rabit every little creature knows where it was from and where it will be, we knew the pass and we can smell what will happen tomorrow to the children of South Sudan.

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      • 28 April 2011 15:33, by Southern Lion

        My dear Servant of Bashir,

        I understand your point, you simply don’t want to enjoy the freedom in the South for which you were a traitor/colloborator. Becuase of your enslavement and overdependent on bashir you have become airheaded and would support anything a mere fool won’t support.Briefly, I want to inform you that the Abyei issue was taken to the Haque and was resolved(refer to details from your master bashir or ask my assistance for more info),and as a result South Sudan has the right to decide the fate of Abyei territory given the Haque’s ruling.
        Let me educate you more about the affairs of South Sudan, which I think an iliterat person like you have not been well fed. Initially it was bashir who started honouring the Haque ruling partly by denying the South a share of the oil in some parts of northern Abyei’s oil fields that the Haque ruling gave to them. This means that the South is following bashir example by including Abyei in the draft constitution of South Sudan. I assure you that we are determined in the struggle against the arabs and their colloborators and neither threats nor war will ever prevented our destiny.
        I also want to assure you that neither false prophesies like ngundeng’s or prophet of dooms like you you will have any effect on our history.

        Conclusively, I want to inform you that mr. bashir is a confused person who does not know what to do with the current affair in the Sudan. Our army, the SPLA has all it takes to counter all threats that mr. bashir is preaching now.
        Our struggle continues!!!!

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    • 28 April 2011 16:24, by Kon Ajith Deng

      You gug.Mr.President has a right to wage war in South Kordofan ,because Abei is in the north, South Sudanse they don,t know their border, Abei is not included in the border of 1965,let them talk about rein Abei

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    • 28 April 2011 22:04, by sid balad

      People should stop preaching war. Its no good and no fun for all Sudanese. Its those who think they wont be affected by it that preach it. But one day you could wake up to say u wish u never did.

      Both NCP and SPLM have the responsibility to not take Sudan back to War. I hope all outstanding issues between north and south are settled before july 9, so we can move on.

      But just a quick question tho, whats SPLM doing as a political party in North Sudan? Is it not suppose to secede with South Sudan ?

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  • 28 April 2011 08:56, by Hero

    Try it big mouth! Look like your days are up. You and cliques will regret your stupidity soon.

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    • 28 April 2011 09:56, by Cibaipiath Junub Sudan

      Bashir is tired of his frustrated life. This is how arabs die when they becamee rich. Who is he dishonour Secession of the South? Who is h to threaten Southerners? Abyei should appear and appear millions times in the preamble, the bottom and last parts of the Southern Constitution if there is room to emphasis Abyei as Southern Territory. Abyei should appear in all documents, incoming, outgoing, in songs and in saying it to the entire world and to the extend of carrying out research to dig out the death to examine the remains of the ancester of the Abyei.

      This self expression of Bashir is another step to end up his life badly.

      Bashir will either finish all southners or get burn completely to ashes.

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  • 28 April 2011 09:00, by Angelo Ajiech Manyuat

    Bashir, Abyei belong to the South & its always be part of the South. Your pathetic Messiryia will go back to where they come from period.

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  • 28 April 2011 09:00, by Fearless man

    They made a pretty strong statement about the president, and we haven’t heard much of them on our country south radio either. There is a silent majority in this country, and it is a whole lot stronger than bashir and gadat’s people might think
    War has never solve anything during it time, what do you think that the war can solve or is it what you do to southerense so that they can fight each other then take advantage out of that?
    death to you criminal bashir and Ahomd harrun,

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    • 28 April 2011 09:26, by Wunne dohor

      My dear Southerners

      Let us be aware of beshir tactics of taking back the country to war. He is most wanted and half gone.

      We will not be scared by his words he is sure that should he put his hand on us then we will support Darfur rebels and they take one front and the SPLA with other front and most importantly the UN army like in Ivory coast case.

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      • 28 April 2011 12:40, by Sombiri

        Our army is advancing at a firm pace, watched over by God and pushed forward by Angels."

        Omar al-Bashir, President of Sudan, talking about the progress of the Sudanese army against Southern Sudanese rebels, as quoted in BBC Focus on Africa magazine, Jan-Mar 1996.

        Let us wait and see.

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  • 28 April 2011 09:12, by unityfirst1

    That’s nonsense Mr.Bashir!Abyei will never be the part of the North.stop waving your AK-47 toward the Southerners,we know how to use it better than you do sir.you will never win so don’t forget that you’re fighting the real war this time with the crazier young men you hadn’t seen before,those young men will rest later on only when the job is done and they come to realize that you’re no longer in this world,either spend the rest of your life in the penitentiary or die in your twenty-hours lockdown.

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  • 28 April 2011 09:13, by amon

    Come on Beshir,Come on NCP, we are tired of your everyday threats, toy just want to create the wars so that you can stay in power for long and avoid the ICC.You no longer control oil money, how can you sponsor your terrorism? Even if you withdraw your recognition of the Southern State though,it will not revers the date of July 9, 2011 to July 9,1998. You hearts are paining because you have lost everything and you still lose, even power soon.

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  • 28 April 2011 09:23, by LongTweng

    We will see if you omar will take Abyei from us.
    It will be your last wish for a piece of Southern Sudan Territory and it will bring tsunami storm to your northern ladies in white dresses. Take my message seriously, your ugly cow wives will be a widows soon if you are a man enough to take part in that fights.

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  • 28 April 2011 09:28, by Makuei

    Yes! This Stupid-wanted-criminal had never learn a thing but SPLA (SSAF) will rest in Khartoum this time.

    And Bashir sit in the cell in the Hague at the end of the day.

    Ala!!!

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  • 28 April 2011 09:52, by Akech

    Umeer is mad actually, just solve the problem within NCP first, otherwise you find yourself on front of ICC soon.

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    • 28 April 2011 12:10, by Sudani Logik

      Jalaby, Mohammed Ali, Sam.Eto and Shadowmaster (Shimally bigots)

      Get this, Misseriyah are not the majority in South Kurdofan state, there are over 3-million Nuba people in that state, sadly for you, most of them support the SPLM because of their rejection of forced Arabization. The SPLM is not interfering in the affairs of a foreign country, because its a lawfully registered political party in North Sudan, otherwise they would not even qualify to compete in these elections, stop your childish propaganda.

      Abyei is by all logic and accounts part of South Sudan (African Sudan), it is dominated by members of the largest tribe in South Sudan and yet you want to keep it? How ironic, given the fact that you keep shouting about expelling southerners from the north, how stupid are you guys!

      What would you say to a Dinka Ngok member who wants to reside in Khartoum? Its not a trick question ya Jalaby.

      But of course we know the real reason for wanting to keep Abyei is “OIL”. As for grazing land, those tribes use to venture south of the river Kiir, which means eventually they would need to cross further south beyond north Abeyi to survive, don’t you guys like peace at all? Halaib has proven reserves of Oil and natural Gas off its shores, I would love to see the NCP try to evict the Egyptian military from there, you bunch of pathetic wana-be-Arabs!

      NCP can only win in S. Kurdofan by rigging the elections, which they mostly likely will. Bashir and his NCP thugs are in no condition to win a War. they will loose quicker than they can blink, they know that very well. People in the north are not ready to die for these guys anymore, and the days of using the Blacks vs Blacks are over because they have woken up to your grand plan.

      Mohammed Ali,

      You made me laugh with your comment yesterday, your kind are worse than the White slave owners of the slave trade days, you are not ARAB, just a diluted version of Sudanese mixed with a bit of Arab and many things in between, Turkish, Persian, Ethiopian etc etc.. but you remain viewed as Africans whether you like it or not, yes there are a few success stories of Sudanese doing well in the Middle East but don’t be fooled my misguided friend, deep down you know the truth.

      The Kenyans speak english and its the official language of instruction but it doesn’t mean they are English, you people are really lost.

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  • 28 April 2011 09:58, by Jalaby


    I listened to Al-Bashir speech yesterday in south Kordofan, he put the two options in the table for SPLA/M:
    1. Free election in south Kordofan, if that doesn’t work with SPLM then
    2. War.


    It seems that Al-Bashir has become sick of SPLA/M intervention in north issue and sent them a clear message to stop doing that.


    Give me one single reason that will make south Kordofan people vote for SPLM candidate??!! will Misserya and arabs who are the majority in south Kordofan vote for SPLM to cut off Abyei from S. Kordofan and therefore north Sudan and give it to south and prevent them from grazing their cattles in their land???!!


    What project of developments that SPLM will provide in S. Kordofan?!! did they do any real projects in the south other than building a beer factory??!!!


    NCP built and continue to build many essential projects in s. Kordofan like developing oil fields and pipelines, roads, clean water pumps, hospitals, schools, university and they connected many suburban cities in s. Kordofan with main cities and Khartoum through paved roads.


    July 7th is approaching and soon we will start deporting southerners from north to south because they will become illegal immigrants,
    more importantly, we will deport them because we don’t want them to continue be treated in the north as second class citizen and we will deport them where they will find freedom, security, equality, fairness and paradise in the south!!!!!

    Jalaby (Abo Tagia)

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    • 28 April 2011 10:35, by amon

      @Jalaby

      Bring on the war, this is what we have been doing for the past 50 years and we are not tired of it. You mundukuru the sons of slaves, where will you get the money from to sponsor your terrorism with? JEM is coming to Khartoum soon where will you go?

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    • 28 April 2011 10:45, by Mr. Truthteller

      Jalaby,

      I agree with you on this particular issue. Our people in the South are becoming illegally emotional on Abyei issue. These ones making noises on the web are all sons of coward Dinkas who only hope that the Nuer majority of SPLA soldiers will fight their irrational war on Abyei. They sold Abyei to you for cheap gains in 1905 and now talk without a feeling of shame.

      Shame on them.

      We know how we should bring Abyei back and not by the noises of coward warmongers.

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      • 28 April 2011 11:35, by Jalaby


        Mr. Truthteller,

        You’re right, Dinka sold Abyei to north in 1905 and the deal is closed and all set and Abyei becomes north land.

        Same as Alaska, America had bought Alaska from Russia and becomes American land despite there is no border between Alaska and US but between Russia and Canada!


        Al-Bashir is right, if Dinka acknowledge Abyei as north land then welcome otherwise let us meet down the road and finish it!!!!


        Don’t let Dinka fool you, they don’t fight north and you can see everytime they harass Miserrya and when Misserya fire back they run away and leave Abyei empty, they want to hire Nuer to fight on behalf of them!


        Honestly, Nuer are not our enemy at all throughout Sudan history and we won’t fight them but we can sit with them and solve peacefully any issue between us.


        Jalaby (Abo Tagia)

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        • 28 April 2011 12:15, by Sudani Logik

          Divide and conquer, oldest trick in the book. Foolish Jalaby.

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        • 29 April 2011 04:58, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

          Jalaba the devil black Arab.
          You just are teaching tribal rivalry in south.
          I knew you have given some Nuer food fullers like Trusthteller.
          Did you give him Simsimsanni/sugar and a lot food to eat? That let him not think deep of really true life enemy in Africa.

          Most of foolish Naath would portray Dinka brother as their main enemy due to their foolishly undeducated mind for world knowledge. They take minor local dispute like foreign issues. Well understand Naath know what is the really problem in Sudan, how many Naath have been murders by Arab to lied. You will take the foolish Nuer, but not a good Naath that knew Dinka well.

          We knew there a lot of problem between two tribe started by Garang. But will be resolves a peacefully as brothers. All black African Sudanese will fight to end Arab Regime in Khartoum in some few years coming.

          Foolish Black Muslim will be send to exile to find their really Identity. Over there, they will discovery themselves and think back in the foreign Country of how the foolishly war they have found against themselves.

          The real Arab will go with Arab and the fake Arab fall down to go of discrimination in Arab hell world. So you will looks back as true African person, but your mistake of murders African people will hunt you for life.

          Liberation for Sudan is done yet, black Arab like Mohamed Taha have to give power peacely if they like their children to be African Sudanese future generation. So they can eat the grass of African soils.

          African liberation fighters /warriors

          Tone of Liberators

          Nguetbuny

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      • 28 April 2011 12:12, by Liberator

        Mr. Truthteller

        I would rather fight on behalf of the people of Nubian mountains and Blue Nile to free them from the North grip on their land. enough with these cowards of Deng Majok orphans of Abyei, i.e Deng Alor Kuol, Luka Biong, along with his brother Pieng Deng. Let them fight their own battle and free Abyei.

        Looks at the way they are treating a courageous soldier like Peter Gatdet Yaka who on their behalf fought the war in Abyei in 2008 to dislodge the Northerner forces out of the district(Abyei).

        Now, they are begging Gen. Tanginya to go and fight for them in Abyei but not long ago they ambushed him by using their terrorist Security intelligence services in order to eliminate who their to now as their savior! what a creature ethnic cheap cheaters! your tricks won’t work this time. you will have to recruit and fight for it or else ’’Jallaba should walk away with that land no question ask!

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      • 28 April 2011 12:56, by Jur Tier

        You seems to have lost in your statement or else your words do not really reflects what your name is (truth teller). Firstly, you wisely presented the fact that Southern government should not include Abiei in its current constitution which is absolutely a good opinion. However, you forget that the so called ’Riak’ whom you give credits for all the positive outcome in the post-comprehensive peace agreement (CPA) does not deserve it, not even a single one.
        Secondly,you also overlook that Riak deserves Zero credit in his contribution towards the Movement as a whole and to the entire South Sudanese. According to the SPLM/A’s Higher Ranking and Individual Achievement Historical Records(HRAIAH), Riak’s credits since the establishment of the movement falls into an extreme zero. The reasons are as follow:

        1) In 1991 Riak, a man respected by all Southerners in struggle, defected from SPLM/A and turned against the civilians killing 978,285 people in Bor area, Jonglei state(UNHA -East Africa based, 1992).This figure, according to the United Nation Human Rights Abuses -East Africa,is a clear indication that Riak behaviour at the time has no different to that of the Rwanda genocide.

        2) In 1993, Riak exposed the SPLM/A’s secretes to the Khartoum government which led to the capturing of 97% of the South by the Northern forces in (1993 - 1995). It was from here that Riak lost his image among Southerners and also where everyone lost trust in him though he returned later.

        Having been welcome back, he step up his role in the movement he once betrayed but it was too little too late!
        And here we go Mr. Truth teller, Riak position in the current GoSS Administration is a "salt that has lost its salty taste". The blood he shaded on those innocent civilians, soaked up in a soil that is of their skin type hasn’t bleached yet in his hands. So, the man whose roles in the current Southern governments seems nothing but pretending might soon be charged for crimes against humanity.

        These are just a few backgrounds of the man you appeared to be backing up. you are a concise commentator though but be careful not to support an icon whose pasts in the history of our struggle seems unsatisfactory to the Southerners including yourself.

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    • 28 April 2011 10:48, by Born to Achieve

      Jalaby,

      And the reverse will be applied too to your fellow northerns who are in the south,they will be dragged out of south like criminals, comprehend.

      Think positive!

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      • 28 April 2011 11:51, by Jalaby


        Mr. Born to Achieve,


        We are talking about million and half a million southerners in north Sudan and you are talking about few thousends (may be 30k or less) northerners in south!


        Well, deport them and south will fall under famine because they are traders and have their network with north in bringing goods, foods, materials, etc to south and south completely rely on them, you will be the loser but never mind deport them!


        We will deport southerners after July 9th for free because we will take responsibility of the deportation cost, so no worry!


        Jalaby (Abo Tagia)

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    • 28 April 2011 10:58, by Cibaipiath Junub Sudan

      Jalaby,
      You are a double faced person. I do not know which area you come from. Yesterday, you reacted to sacking of your father Gosh and demanded immediate step down of Bashir. Today, you saying something contrary to reactions and you failed to accept my advice to capture Khartuom before 3:00 O’ Clock.

      South will be a paradise for black Africans of good will and all rights and freedoms shall prevail in the South. There will be no stealing and snipping of beer. You hate drinking and stealing and however, like stealing and snipping beer in the north at night hours. Where on earth you steal and belief that no one is seeing what you are doing. What about Allah who knows everything one does in all days long?

      Bashir is freightening the South Kordofan but not South Sudan. That area of Abyei shall be handled by the SPLM and its People of South Sudan.

      We are just fed up with your threats. Depot them now and do not for 7th July 2011. In fact we do not need more Southerners in the North. We want all of them in South. Please tell Bashir to relief those Southerners in his SAF in Darfur and all parts of the North Sudan. I believe North will not use black to fight or kill back. It will be a war of red/pink North vs Typical blacks South.

      That war you need so dearly will be like war of Isrealites and Plastinians.

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      • 28 April 2011 11:58, by Jalaby


        Cibaipiath Junub Sudan,


        I’m not doubled face person but it is your responsibility to read carefully and understand what I wrote then provide your good remark!


        Jalaby (Abo Tagia)

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    • 28 April 2011 11:40, by mack waweru

      Jalaby,

      Things done by crook ways never succeed. If Arabs are the majority in South Kordufan, then no doubt they were brought from further northern states and resettled here just to rig the up coming gubernatorial elections and Popular Consultation for the people of the Nuba Mountains. The SPLM members in this state are the original sons are daughters of this region, but your greed for occupation of other peoples’ land is your daily business.I believe this criminal project will miserably fail in South Kordufan as it did in the South, Eastern Sudan, Blue and Darfur.

      Regarding waging war against South Sudan, your wanted president has already declared it, but he knows very well that he is talking empty drums. South has nothing to lose, but the north which has mega projects built with stolen resources of South Sudan.
      I challenge you to tell everybody on this site that the word "Abyei" is an Arabic word before claims to whom it belongs.

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      • 28 April 2011 12:30, by amon

        @mack waweru

        This guy’s (Jalaby’s)mother was a slave, raised up in the street of Khartoum. Don’t wast your time to answer fool’s questions. I don’t even bother one day to answer his nonsense on this forum.

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    • 28 April 2011 12:40, by Waucity

      JALAB, what is your mouth doing in Abyei you little sub human being...There was no ligitmate process conducted that made ABYEI part of the North, British government was an illegal authority in Sudan, why ABYEi has to move is similiare to why Southern Sudan became Separate...ONE simple word,there is no dignifild person that can live with a very little people who cut people hands alive and barry their womens alive...Why don’t you go and guide your little women and prevent them from samiling in the public...Abyei will be part of the South, shame full human being called arabs,who refused to be dignifield in the middle about Sudanese wealth will now go hungery and will then go to the arab world...finish.

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    • 28 April 2011 13:29, by Martin Muong

      Jalaby you are nothing but "jana chaar mutha" Don’t get confused it is a loan word from Arabic.

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  • 28 April 2011 10:06, by emadven

    THe solution is simple change the regime in the North and we’ll get back abye and peace to all Sudanese just like in Egypt and Tunisia. arm the darfur rebells and finance them and they’ll create change. thing of this as Machiavellian politics. use the other person’s hand.

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  • 28 April 2011 10:24, by Mr. Truthteller

    Dear South Sudanese,

    I do agree with Bashir’s threat of war and reconsideration of the recognition of South Sudan independence despite the fact that I wish that Abyei should also come South. The reason is that we should not include Abyei as part of South Sudan constitution now before its case is finally settled through referendum as stipulated in the CPA, or by Bashir’s presidential decree returning it to South Sudan.

    We would sound stupid, irrational and acting on illegal basis if we insist that we prematurely annex Abyei as part of the South Sudan independent territory. Abyei by 1956 north-south borders falls on the North Sudan side since 1905, when it was transferred there by the British colonial administration with the consent of their late chief Majok Deng. How can we jump up with emotions to illegally annex it to the South without any formal processes?

    John Luk should not be too excited to have headed the constitutional review committee to the extent of provoking a situation that will take South Sudan proper back to war and lose what we have gained (South Sudan independence). The world will not side with us on this matter because it is not the right way to do it. Take Abyei out of South Sudan constitution. Just use the word in the constitution such as “if and when” or “in case” Abyei joins the South, it will be part of the South Sudan proper.

    I know those of Deng Alor, Luka Biong, think they are clever to drag the whole South back to war using their tactic of including Abyei in the constitution. This will not help Abyei and will also harm the South. Bashir has now threatened to reconsider its recognition of South Sudan independence if Abyei is included. He is very right because he recognized the South Sudan territory as stood from January 1956 according to CPA. Why would he continue with his recognition now if we illegally bring in Northern territories into the South? He will refuse it and the war will resume and we will lose his most important needed recognition.

    Don’t forget that Bashir’s recognition is the one that will make it easier for other nations in Afirca and the rest of the world to follow suit with ease!

    Please if you want Abyei back to South Sudan in the near future take it out of the South Sudan constitution. Take the Nuer wisdom which says if you want to eat a big chunk of meat, don’t try to swallow it all at a go because you will get choked in your throat. Mince the meat into small pieces and swallow one piece at a time until you will have eaten all the meat.

    This is why I like Dr. Riek Machar’s strategies that have brought us to the CPA and to the referendum, and now independence in July. This is because he was the one chairing all the negotiations from 2005 up to 2010. That defused the situation and led to the success of the referendum.

    Ngundeng predicted that when his Luak (South Sudan) breaks away from the North, there will be a community the ’rol’ or Jallaba will turn away with. This community could be Dinka Ngok, if you are not careful in handling their case.

    If you do it emotionally and illegally this time round, you will lose both Abyei and recognition of South Sudan by Bashir and many other African countries and the rest of the world and the SPLM will be blamed for the stupidity. Do it wisely and not emotionally.

    Let the South raise its flag on July 9 and make some necessary preparations while continuing negotiations with Khartoum over the issue of Abyei. We can discuss it for sometime until the end of 2011 using other post-independence channels.

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    • 28 April 2011 12:27, by Liberator

      Mr. Truthteller

      I would rather fight on behalf of the people of Nubian mountains and Blue Nile to free them from the North grip on their land. enough with these cowards of Deng Majok orphans of Abyei, i.e Deng Alor Kuol, Luka Biong, along with his brother Pieng Deng. Let them fight their own battle and free Abyei.

      Looks at the way they are treating a courageous soldier like Peter Gatdet Yaka who on their behalf fought the war in Abyei in 2008 to dislodge the Northerner forces out of the district(Abyei).

      Now, they are begging Gen. Tanginya to go and fight for them in Abyei but not long ago they ambushed him by using their terrorist Security intelligence services in order to eliminate who their to now as their savior! what a creature ethnic cheap cheaters! your tricks won’t work this time. you will have to recruit and fight for it or else ’’Jallaba should walk away with that land no

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  • 28 April 2011 10:33, by Mapuor

    Haa. A policy taken from the position of strength has become obsolete.Bashir, your threats are meaningless.You will not be able to face your own opposition in the North & the Republic of South Sudan.Two wars!!!!!!!!!!!one with neighbouring country & another one civil war within the Republic of Northern Sudan in Dar fur,Nuba mountains,Sinnar,South blue Nile & Eastern Sudan.Yopu are bluffing,you are indeed bluffing.International community also want you at Hague.What a stupid Jaali!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 28 April 2011 10:39, by amon

      @Mapuo

      Beshir is a mad dog, wanted by the ICC, struggling with the internal economic pressure and isolated from the rest of the world. Beware of him!

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  • 28 April 2011 11:32, by Sudan virus

    Start now!

    Not Words!

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  • 28 April 2011 12:27, by Liberator

    Mr. Truthteller

    I would rather fight on behalf of the people of Nubian mountains and Blue Nile to free them from the North grip on their land. enough with these cowards of Deng Majok orphans of Abyei, i.e Deng Alor Kuol, Luka Biong, along with his brother Pieng Deng. Let them fight their own battle and free Abyei.

    Looks at the way they are treating a courageous soldier like Peter Gatdet Yaka who on their behalf fought the war in Abyei in 2008 to dislodge the Northerner forces out of the district(Abyei).

    Now, they are begging Gen. Tanginya to go and fight for them in Abyei but not long ago they ambushed him by using their terrorist Security intelligence services in order to eliminate who their to now as their savior! what a creature ethnic cheap cheaters! your tricks won’t work this time. you will have to recruit and fight for it or else ’’Jallaba should walk away with that land no

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  • 28 April 2011 12:39, by AAMA

    This is just a publicity stunt to distract the public from what is going on inside the walls of the NCP and the list of unanswered questions they have for the next period. I don’t think any war will happen, because war will make the NCP vulnerable in the north and this might worsen their situation (its already the worst ever). On the other hand, the south won’t make any response even if they were attacked because they still can’t comprehend to the fact that a northern government allowed them to separate (this is because they have kept themselves in this dilution for sooooooo long that they can’t believe its truly happening) and they want to safe guard what was achieved under any circumstance, even if the north occupied all the debated bordering parts of the south. The Abyei issue is just pushed by the Abyei members of the SPLM and the leadership wants to please them but not to the point that they jeopardize what they already achieved as they think.

    Peace.

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    • 28 April 2011 13:02, by Ming Dhal

      Bashir should shut that dirty mouth off and wait to see what will happen to Sala Gosh in one man ’s government i e Bashir’s gov’t

      NB_ We don’t care any war since we were born and grow in the war region.
      Secondly, take care from Southern Koradofan’s people since you removed their son from key position since last year till now and remain with that evil called Nafi Al Ma Nafi( Kusumu)you two will go for ICC including Gosh good enough you release him from immunity it is simple to be captured

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  • 28 April 2011 13:16, by Martin Muong

    Advertising of Kalashnikov by President Omar Hassan Al-bashir is not the only way of intimidating and frightening Southerners. We are used to war and die for our right.
    Therefore don’t bothered yourselves to expose your deadly weapons. This is what we have been doing for last two decades. Stop being egotists, do you really think if you fight with the Southerners you will annex and encroach Abyei?. The answer is no you won’t take Abyei by force.
    There are some dullards who said that Abyei was sold by Dinka-Ngok to Northern Sudan. If Abyei was sold to Northerners how much did Dinka-Ngok sell Abyei to Arabs?.
    Bashir is goner, you better tell him to stop digging his own grave. For your information Mr Bashir you are not going to defeat SPLA as you are expecting. If you are elite you would have vanquished SPLA in 19th century. The notion of SPLA now is to make Khartoum a battlefield. This is not the time you fight with the SPLA in remote areas, everything has change stop thinking like a child of two years old. We have no choice but to turn Sudan upside down as you wish.If you want to defeat us make a peace with Ibrahim Khalil otherwise original Sudanese will quick you out of Sudan. Have you forgotten Southerners? this time around they are not going to wounded you as you ended up being a lame president in Sudan, I swear SPLA are going to decapitate your damn head. Please declare the war carefully otherwise SPLA will ravish and rape your step daughters before you.

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  • 28 April 2011 13:31, by Mr. Truthteller

    To Abyei (Ngok Dinka)

    You Abyei politicians plus your other coward Dinka clans should go and fight the war. You are heartless people who bite the hand that feeds you all the time. You used to betray Nuer when they fought the British.

    Recently Peter Gatdet defended Abyei in 2008, yet you paid him back by biting his hand. Now he will not defend you.

    Now when Gabriel Tanginya agreed to join the SPLA forces. Your coward tactics, knowing that he had already integrated most of his forces, you attacked him from behind like thieves in the night.

    Your tactic was to bring him to SPLA like a criminal, in violation of your so-called amnesty by the President. You did not want him to come through agreement, but you sent a Nuer general and then sent somebody to fire the gun and caused confusion so that the two Nuer generals fight. You only want Tanginya to come back as a criminal and may be charge him in court. Are these the evil tactics of people who need help in Abyei?

    You are coward. You always run away from Messirya tribe and leave Abyei empty only to them. Who do you think will fight for you? Nuer?

    Rommel, I did expect you to helplessly make a war cry like a woman trying to arouse emotions in men to come to your rescue. You would have responded to the legal issues I raised about Abyei.

    Let me ask you this simple question. Where is Abyei located? Is it not in Southern Kordofan in the North? Who took it to the North? Was it not your Dinka Ngok chief Majok Deng, for cheap short term interests, and agreed with the British?

    The South has a different provision in the CPA on self-determination based on its territory as defined in the 1956 borders.

    Don’t mix Abyei with any situation in Bentiu. Yes, Bentiu is in the South (according to 1956 borders) and any invasion by Bashir would be pure invasion of the South. The same goes to places like Gogrial and Tonj in Warrap state. I would join the fight against Bashir without any hesitations.

    But the Abyei issue is very different, dude. It is in the North, and for it to come to the South, you need to go through some legal processes similar to the ones the South has gone through. Otherwise, shut up, I know Dinka Ngok are our people, though stupid and divisive, and we should look for wise ways to bring them back in the future. Beating the drums of war against Khartoum over Abyei issue is a foolish strategy before the South consolidates its independence.

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    • 29 April 2011 04:13, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

      Mr. Thrustteller

      Th is liberation of whole Sudan,it is not for Abyei territory only.
      I know you got a little tribal mind set only for your small villages as to fight the foolish war.

      Dinka fought many battles with whole Sudan Islamic Regime Army. Not just the little County of Abyei Dinka could not fight for. Dinka are fighting for the whole Sudan problem.

      Let Bashier come with their threat against South again,it is not like the Rebel of last time. It has a quipments to hit their Tanks,airplanes high above. Let them come to South we can take them to Jahna. Deng Abuk will care of them well.

      Tone of African Liberation Worriors/Fighters

      Nguetbuny

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  • 28 April 2011 15:58, by monykuc, Southerner

    We will follow you. Try and you will be shown the upper teeth of a goat.

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  • 28 April 2011 19:03, by Kim Deng

    Gangs of Deng Majok,

    You ought to come out of your hidding because the very dirt ugly war has been declared agaisnt you in Abyei. Your godfather, Deng Majok sold it to Baggara in 1905, but now you claim to be part of South Sudan. Who do you think will defend your land since Gen. Tiger Gatdet refused to waste his time for your cowards (Jaang?)

    You have to leave Abyei for South Sudan where you will be sent to refugee camps rather than expecting others to dye for you.

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    • 28 April 2011 21:06, by Marco A. Wek

      Kimberly Deng, Deng Majok did not sell Abyei but he did make that unfortunate move in 1905 but had it not been because of oil in Abyei, North Sudan would not even care if Abyei go with the South or not. North is desperate for oil knowing most of the wells are going with the South.

      North is desperate for war that they tried to fight with us for fifty years without wining, yet they are still calling for it.

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  • 29 April 2011 04:28, by Quota

    To:
    all posters
    thanks you for your comments,

    Back to the topic,said "Abyei will remain northern" I don’t think so that Abyei will remain as a part of north, it’s a southern sudan’s land and it will never ever be apart of northern Sudan believe me.

    Dear people of South, don’t be scared with word "threaten" that said by Al-Bashir, he’s nothing to South Sudanese people.I mean look for how many years did Bashir or North Sudan fought against South Sudan, and they haven’t done anything to the Southerness people.

    What he’s trying to do now, is just acampaign to keep his seat. He knew that, he has already did signed the CPA; which ended What they so-called "twenty-one years of war." Also he knew that abyei was apart of it too.

    And I don’t think Al-Bashir didn’t forget about that,but if he did; ok let him bring it on, and let do it because South is now not like the old South. He better know that South Sudan will and will not never ever failed to stand up on it feet like others neighbors countries.
    By investigator!!

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  • 29 April 2011 08:46, by Garang

    Mr. Bashir Abyei belong to Southern Sudan whether you want or not shame on your verbal threat.

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