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South Sudan threatens to sue dealers over its "stolen" oil

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By Ngor Arol Garang

January 10, 2012 (JUBA) - South Sudan’s oil minister said Tuesday that north Sudan was siphoning off his country’s oil, threatening to instigate legal proceedings against any country or company involved in buying the allegedly stolen crude.

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A man examines a leaking oil pipe line at a pumping station built next to his village on land that was once used for agriculture, Paloch, South Sudan, January 20, 2010 (Sven Torfinn)

Since landlocked South Sudan seceded in July 2011 - taking with it 75% of the Sudan’s known oil wealth - the two countries have failed to negotiate a fee for the South to export its oil using north Sudan’s infrastructure.

Last week the South Sudanese government threatened to sue Khartoum over its decision to unilaterally impose monthly charges on its crude oil transported through its pipelines.

"Rather than view the New Year as an opportunity for renewed cooperation, the government of Sudan unilaterally decided to impose economic sanction[s] by blocking exporting our crude and stealing our oil", Stephen Dhieu Dau, Minister of Petroleum and Mining told journalists in Juba.

Dau accused north Sudan over five issues related to the export of its crude oil:

  • ordering foreign oil companies to divert South Sudan’s crude oil entitlement for December 2011 into refineries in Khartoum and El-Obeid.
  • diverting South Sudan’s monthly production of 550,000 barrels for December to buyers of its own entitlement.
  • beginning the construction of a new pipeline to permanently divert 13% of what he called “Dar Blend”.
  • preventing two ships carrying 1.6 million barrels of crude oil belonging to South Sudan, as well as preventing one additional vessel from leaving Port Sudan.
  • prevented two other ships from entering the port to take possession of 1.2 million barrels of Nile Blend Crude purchased from South Sudan by international buyers.

South Sudan’s oil minister said he denounced the unilateral acts, and described the diversion of its crude oil without its consent as nothing less than” theft”. Dau said that preventing loaded ships from leaving Port Sudan was “unlawful” constituting a clear violation of “international laws” and “norms”.

He said Sudan would take responsibility for all penalties and damages resulting from the "theft" and delays in the shipping schedules.

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South Sudan’s petroleum minister, Stephen Dhien Dau (L) and Pagan Amum addressing representative of oil companies in Juba. Dec. 18, 2011 (ST)

South Sudan is considering building a pipeline to Kenya to bypass having to use north Sudan’s infrastructure but this is years away from being achieved. In the six months since South Sudan became independent the two countries have failed to reach agreement on oil, assets, debt, citizenship and how to demarcate the poorly defined tense new international border.

The two countries are due to resume bilateral talks this month. The Sudanese president Omer Hassan al-Bashir last week said that South Sudan was not negotiating in good faith and accused Juba of not paying fees for use of its facilities.

Most of the oil fields lie near the border. South has claimed Khartoum is arming South Sudanese rebel groups in order to destabilise the new country and retake control of Unity State’s oil fields.

Khartoum denies this and counters that Juba aids rebels in its territory. South Sudan also dismissed the claims and has accused Sudan’s Armed Forces of bombing South Sudanese territory in recent months.

Macar Aciek Ader, an undersecretary at South Sudan’s oil ministry told the press briefing in Juba the world’s newest country would incur “huge economic” damage if Khartoum continued its stance. South Sudan is one of the poorest regions in the world, with oil accounting for around 98% of the government’s annual budget.

“I really do not know what would happen if Khartoum continues to behave like this. I do not know how much loss it would be, but I think our country would incur huge economic impact”, Ader said.

Minister Dau warned that countries or companies who purchase oil from Khartoum that was "stolen from South Sudan" would face legal action.

“The Government of Sudan and all those that benefit from such illegal acquisitions will find no refuge from South Sudan’s legal authorities and will enjoy no future business with the Government of South Sudan,” the minister warned.

He denied reports alleging that his country was not paying Khartoum charges for using its oil infrastructure including transport and processing fees.

“It is disappointing to mention that Khartoum continues to deny that South Sudan pays charges for the use of its infrastructures. South Sudan is already being charged and is paying pipeline operators significant fees to produce and transport it[s] oil through Sudan but Khartoum remains spreading lies that South Sudan is not paying for the use of its infrastructure”, the minister said.

Barnaba Marial Benjamin, South Sudan’s minister of information, at the same briefing warned Khartoum to treat the world’s newest nation like an independent state with its own territorial sovereignty and resources. He repeated the allegation that north Sudan’s army intended to invade his country because of oil.

However, he said that South Sudan’s military (SPLA) would not let this happen.

“Khartoum thinks that it can invade South Sudan like what Iraq did to Kuwait in 1990. Don’t we know what happened to Iraq? Where is Saddam Hussein now”, minister Marial said.

Marial argued the fact that his country was willing to offer financial assistance of $2.6 billion cash and to write off $2.8 billion of debts and arrears which he said Khartoum owes the people of South Sudan.

This he stressed should be seen as an indication of a country willing to forge better relations with its neighbour.

Both North and South Sudan are currently involved in series of negotiations on several outstanding post-independence issues, under the mediation of the African Union High Implementation Panel on Sudan (AUHIP).

In recent months, however, both countries have continuously accused each other of supporting rebellions seeking to destabilise respective governments. While the north points fingers at its southern neighbour for allegedly backing rebels in South Kordofan and Blue Nile, the south accuses the north of backing armed rebel movements seeking to topple the Juba government.

(ST)

Additional reporting by Julius N. Uma

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  • 11 January 07:11, by George Bol

    Now, The GOSS witness that the Khartoum have stolen our oil in the daylight,so what can our government do at the moment?

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    • 11 January 10:37, by Aarai Baka

      Threatens to sue the dealers. since when you have been busy looting public fund until you realized very late that oil have been stole for very long time since July 9,2011. minister of mining have no access to oil and he dont know how many output per a day. I cannot wait for 2015 to vote out all these zombies, Im so tired with all bench of rookies.

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      • 11 January 10:40, by Aarai Baka

        yea sue them and then pay u with all stolen oil money. they will not loss anything because they will pay us back with the same oil money they took from us.

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        • 12 January 00:05, by mosa mel

          You right Arar

          They will pay back what they stolen, pay penalty, and has loss credibility internationally. They took bad action against themselves. Too bad to North Sudanese.

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    • 11 January 12:06, by Laat Ayie Jal

      My heart sank into my stomach when hearing such news. I wonder why Juba will go around searching for thieves and avoiding Khartoum, who else do Juba think have stolen crude of oil. Nonsense!
      I’m afraid that the wealth of our country will be just mere stories that cannot reach a guy in remote area of Jonglei State. God have mercy on us and those who responsible in this oil business.

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    • 11 January 12:46, by Dumodit

      The Northern Sudan knew that South Sudan is already an independent country.
      If our government of South Sudan is wise, they ask assistance from the North?

      The Sudan Government has right to do what is good for their future status.
      You can not rescued your properties from the thief hand and then ask the same thief again to keep them for you. NEVER!

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    • 11 January 13:21, by Garang Geng

      our govt should not sleep this time bcoz the Arab want to take the advantage of our country

      Machook

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    • 11 January 14:30, by Joseph

      Brother Bol, our Country is lucking Nationalist and patriotic leaders. Everybody is busy making money to enrich themselves. Today they talk hard about Khartoum and tomorrow they become soft. Look at what is happening in Juba. Just looting our Country resources. Let us only pray to God to have mercy on the pple of RSS.

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    • 11 January 22:18, by Jamjamez

      Oh come on! stop talking like coward and reason like a mature country! when will South Sudan leaders realize that people are counting on them? You threatened always! NO! expel this companies! Let them go to Khartuom and work there! You can not do business with a partner who you don’t trust! expel this companies immediately. No negotiation!
      Stop worshiping Foreigners who serve Khartuom interests!

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    • 12 January 07:14, by Martin Muong

      Just sue them to court.

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  • 11 January 07:15, by Jalaby

    You GoSS are the real thieves and looters because you refused to pay to us our money for using our pipeline and refinaries for 8 months!
    We’ll continue to take our money upfront and GoSS will do nothing other than crying with crocodiles tears!

    Abo Jalabia

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    • 11 January 07:41, by green2

      @Jalaby!
      the only good and honest Arabs is the dead one! your religion has corrupted you mentally! what ethice do you have when you steal? what moralities are they, religion or normative? If you come back to this world after 3000 years, my dear, there will be no Islam no more in other part of the world. it is declining, n it is because of lies after lies! you are usless creatures!

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      • 11 January 09:05, by athor deng

        Mr Green..what does Religion have to with this? Christianity is the most corrupted in religion in the whole world..Im christian and i know this

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        • 11 January 09:18, by Logic

          athor deng

          Stop pretending..lol.lol.lol! Can smell your identity a mile away.

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          • 11 January 10:00, by athor deng

            Logic..how am i pretending? oh i forgot, we don’t have freedom of speech in South Sudan

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        • 11 January 10:03, by green2

          @Athor!If you dont know the connection of the religion of Islam in this context than i will not teach you to understand it. Arab imperialism on us, where did it come? Do you think, they value us, whatever we said to them? try to learn through the concept of the war itself! degrading and assumption that s.sudanese are not civilized and uneducated people! these are not my own words! i though u knw

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          • 11 January 10:21, by athor deng

            MR..Green.."The problem in Sudan is not about Islam or Christian" John Garang..Christian killed way more people in the world and its a fact

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            • 11 January 10:25, by athor deng

              cont..they all have truth and justice in them, i respect all those religions, through the use of my intellect and critical thinking i have conclude that islam is the most accurate and logical faith out of all the messages that God has sent to man. how do i back this claim???????

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              • 11 January 10:27, by athor deng

                cont..The? muslims have done a better job at preserving the original text in comparison to the other faiths, although the other faiths have clearly been inspired by a higher power, man has corrupted its true message

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              • 11 January 10:39, by Logic

                athor deng

                Its o.k if you don’t want to reveal you real identity but assuming somebody else’s is useless if you can’t cover your tracks. lol.lol.lol

                You could’ve chosen any name and didn’t have to mention that you’re Christian, you would make a dumb criminal.

                Its o.k brother, at least you tried! lol.lol

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                • 11 January 10:46, by athor deng

                  LOgic..I forgot Muslims have no right in South Sudan..Is that what you telling me?

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                  • 11 January 11:11, by Logic

                    athor deng

                    What drugs are you on? Who said anything about Muslims or freedom of expression being banned in South Sudan. I know for sure freedom of expression don’t exist in N. Sudan.

                    Stop pretending to be a Christian and I doubt if you’re even a S. Sudanese as your name suggests. Be who you are brother but don’t assume somebody else’s identity, it makes you look stupid.

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                    • 11 January 11:58, by athor deng

                      stop insulting me mr Logic...Im south Sudanese, am i not allowed to speak my mind?

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                    • 11 January 15:03, by mohammed ali

                      Logic, hypocricy you are talking about?What did you say to Sam when he was talking about " drunken"posters ? now you are doing the same, this excsately what is called hypocricy! Muslim are supressed in the south.Sheikh Fareed who is 80 years old muslim in WAW was assassinated and his body was not found yet! Eid prayers square in Juba was confiscated.Salva Kiir himself promised to return to..con

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                      • 11 January 15:16, by mohammed ali

                        them their stolen properties. Nothing happened so far!

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                      • 11 January 20:48, by Elijah B. Elkan

                        Mr. Ali,

                        The fake Arabs are born liars, and inbreeding is taking it’s toll in the north Sudan. Taking something that does not belong to you is stealing!. Koran said lie, cheat, steal is good in Islamic religion. Prove me wrong sir. Khartoum will burn and Turabi and Bashir are world most wanted criminals and they should hang and burn in hell for killing millions or it’s citizens.

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                        • 11 January 21:58, by athor deng

                          Elija..where in heck did it say "lie, cheat, steal is good in Islam religion"? Go educate yourself..check your facts! Don’t let yourself be one of those who when questioned by the Angels of severe questioning in the grave can only say that: I heard the people say this, and I heard the people say that, and so? I said what the people said. Remember that some assumption is sin

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                          • 11 January 22:00, by athor deng

                            cont..you are such a foolish.Atleast try to understand bible correctly.Jesus said dont? drink alcohol,yet you drink alcohol.Jesus said dont eat pork,yet your main food is pork .Jesus said worship the God,yet you people are worshipping him instead of God.You people are really retards

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                            • 11 January 23:43, by Elijah B. Elkan

                              Mr. Athor Deng, With all due respect to you sir, you are not making any senses in your comments. When you level personal attack it does not make your argument right. You need to debate in good faith. I am not a Muslim and or Christian, but I know what is right for humanity. The fake Arabs believed Islam can lied, cheat, steal and it’s good. Check your Koran’s which drive this wicked religion ideas

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                              • 12 January 02:19, by athor deng

                                Elijah..you are not making any sense so bye and have a good day

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      • 11 January 09:16, by Logic

        Khartoum currently has the upper hand, with the southern financed oil infrastructure in its territory and an air force just about advanced enough to threaten S. Sudan.

        But this situation will not last for long, just remember this is not the making of poor average northerners who are also victims of Bashir, so when S. Sudan is supported by the powerful please only target the NCP not the people.

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        • 11 January 21:02, by Elijah B. Elkan

          Mr. Logic,

          North Sudan will disintegrated into many pieces. Sorry dude, but this a fact, I don’t know what you’re smoking dude, but Khartoum will burn soon or later. The fake Arabs will revert back to calling themselves Africans, because you are!. Being a Muslim does not make you Arab dude!. Eastern Sudan, Kordofun, Blue Nile, and Dar Fur will become new countries soon or later dude!.

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    • 11 January 10:35, by Lang

      Mohammad al-idiot and Jalaby you both are clearly idiots.
      You’re government already stole oil early this to pay for monthly fees so what would they need to steal more oil from us then??? They are thieves you are idiots for continuing to support them with your ridiculous propaganda.

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    • 11 January 11:30, by Big Boy

      Dear Jallaby

      You always admire anything provided by the south sudan government till you die, for how long you have been stolen this fuel and you don’t say thank god! it’s ashame on you all!

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    • 11 January 12:02, by ONEK-JAH

      Let the sleeping dog lie, Arabs will continue stealing our oil and buy with powerful weapons for terorising our land and kill our people while those heavilly corrupt aged GOSS ofifcers are snoring in their respective offices like a pregnant saw.
      By Onek Jah

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    • 12 January 00:15, by mosa mel

      Jalaba

      If you know that goss refused to pay you, why you don’t sue goss? I think you have no right. your claim is baseless. NCP did this criminal act to Sudanese people body. Don’t try to support it. Financial crime is serous since your money will be taken from international bank. It is not like indicted body.

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  • 11 January 07:24, by Madina Tonj

    GOSS need to close the pipeline that is the only option left unless those corruption ministers don’t want to do it because they are become addicted to oil’s money. Why GOSSS always making rhetorical statement instead let it close for good. S,Sudanese people must be told to focusing on agriculture and leave oil for a while until the plan B is done. Please close it the oil pipeline

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  • 11 January 07:25, by Jalaby


    “It is disappointing to mention that Khartoum continues to deny that South Sudan pays charges for the use of its infrastructures."....

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  • 11 January 07:25, by Lang

    Time for GOSS to start doing business with the west instead of the east. These negotiations would end much sooner if the west was more involved.

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    • 11 January 07:48, by Jalaby

      Mr. Lang,
      Unfortunately, the west themselves are in desperate need for help after their economies are collapsing one after the other, they really can’t help the south but Mr. Kiir went to Israel and kissed their ass and begged them for money, I believe Israel economy is in very bad shape too but let us wait and see the outcome of that ass kissed!

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  • 11 January 07:27, by Jalaby

    "South Sudan is already being charged and is paying pipeline operators significant fees to produce and transport it[s] oil through Sudan but Khartoum remains spreading lies that South Sudan is not paying for the use of its infrastructure”, the minister said!

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    • 11 January 07:34, by Lang

      You devilish fake Arabs, you see even if we are actually paying use of the infrastructure you will deny it anyway and continue to spread propaganda in support of thieves.

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    • 11 January 07:41, by Daniel Buolmawei

      So what’s your reaction now Mr. Foolish Jalaby? The allegation we didn’t pay you charges and fees for using pipeline now turned out to be lie. I can’t wait for Mohammed Ali to say anything today, unless he’s also another foolish person who never accept realities as they are now unfolding.

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  • 11 January 07:27, by Daniel Buolmawei

    “It is disappointing to mention that Khartoum continues to deny that South Sudan pays charges for the use of its infrastructures. South Sudan is already being charged and is paying pipeline operators significant fees to produce and transport it[s] oil through Sudan but Khartoum remains spreading lies that South Sudan is not paying for the use of its infrastructure”, the minister said.

    But why—

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  • 11 January 07:34, by Daniel Buolmawei

    keep quiet for all these times? Don’t you think lies become truths when they go uncorrected? You let Khartoum spread lies everyday in order to fool the world, and you sitting idly in Juba, hoping the world people can understand by themselves. Well, we need to understand they are lies when you speak up too. Now, you correct the point Mohammed Ali insisted that’s reason they stole our oil.

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    • 11 January 08:22, by mohammed ali

      Daniel,am here! If you understand what you wrote, you wouldn’t ask me to explain to u what is the meaning of your own words!You have asked your minister the right question" why did you keep quite all these times? The answer is very simple,he is lying. Why is he going to negotiation? Why did they say that they offered to pay Sudan 5.4 Billions & Sudan is claiming 7.5 billions? If you are...con

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      • 11 January 08:31, by mohammed ali

        .honest with yourself you would have asked all these questions and came to the right conclusion.Now this is an empty threat.They threaten to sue Sudan and they didn’t & they wont do now!These people are bussy with looting any money reaches them they just squander it and they dont care & they donnot have a budget or balance sheet, to know what is in & what is out Money cannot stay in their hand..co

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        • 11 January 08:41, by mohammed ali

          ..It seems as if they are happy with the action of Sudan, because reacing a negotiable solution would burden them with keeping money in their hands, something they fear!Negotiatio is good for the people, who are suffering on the ground, but they donnot care.Solving problems is not their cup of tea.They want to " liberate" Sudan while the UN is not getting enough funds to feed their people..con

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          • 11 January 08:51, by mohammed ali

            ..The UN should put Helda Jones words into action:To repatriate the stolen money & feed the real owners of this money.That is their money.Let them stop oil money " rustling" and cattle rusttling will stop and the poor people will leave in peace.They donnot need Hamburgers, Pizza, avocado or pasta like your children abroad, they need very simple food " kisra" "foal" &they will be happy & satisfied!

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            • 11 January 09:01, by Daniel Buolmawei

              Mohammed, please! Are you saying that you stole our oil because of our corrupt politicians? What’s the connection of Khartoum’s stealing of our oil, and corrupt leaders in the South Sudan? You have corrupt leaders and politicians in Khartoum, but we didn’t steal anything from you. Have you felt no shame at all? You have no difference with Murle who believe in theft as the only way of survival.----

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              • 11 January 09:10, by Daniel Buolmawei

                Didn’t we tell you that let’s stay peaceful and united to prevent shameful actions such as this stealing oil, and you wouldn’t listen until it led to breakup of our country? Now you are embarassing yourselves in the face of the world by stealing and looting oil from the south to help handle economic crisis in the north. Mohammed, I asked you the question, what part of you should we cut off?

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                • 11 January 09:24, by mohammed ali

                  Daniel, donnot run away!I only answered your question, don’t run away,your question to you minister!What do you expect his answer will be!T he answer for that, is: HE IS LYING;Dont run away Daniel:Why did Pagan said we offered to pay 5.4 billions if they already paid.Use your common sense.If your government is a thieve that doesn’t mean we stole your money.All the world know that they are theives!

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                  • 11 January 09:32, by mohammed ali

                    Daniel, I don’t feel that I have any difference with Murle or any other human being!They are not thiieves and your racist label to a certain group of people is a dirty, filthy and wicked accusation to your own fellow countrymen.This prepostourous and a dirty, wicked call for genocide and ehenic cleansing.Your drunken & ignorant boss also distributed such accusation which led to the present ..

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                    • 11 January 09:41, by mohammed ali

                      ..killing of poor and innocent childrens and women from both sides.You are a THIEVE loooooooting much more than what the poor, innocent Murle children had ever done in their life!How do you afford to live in Australia , you and the families of the SPLA thugs? Let them bring their families to SS and live the life of ordinary Murle, Dinka or Nue, then you come and label all the Murle tribe as thieve

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            • 11 January 09:14, by Rommel

              Mohammed Ali:

              I think it’s well understood that South Sudan is being afflicted by rampant corruption, but judging from the detached and sententious manner in which you speak on the matter, one could almost be led to believe that you’ve completely eradicated this scourge from both the private and public sectors in your own Nation.

              You know this to be not the case! Stop moralizing!

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              • 11 January 09:26, by Logic

                Rommel

                That’s exactly the irony of the comments of those racist northern elite supporters. They speak as if they’re on a higher moral ground and the ills they mention don’t exist in N. Sudan, but we all know the truth.

                Its the indoctrination of the superiority complex they have been equipped with all those years and they’re completely lost now. IRONIC!!

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                • 11 January 09:58, by mohammed ali

                  Logic,not preach me about racism,while genocide going on under the vision of you liberators & now here a stupid racist is repeating the same ratial accusation of his drunken ignorant boss.You label me as a racist while you ignored such a dirty & offensive comment.You are a jalabi who wants to abuse southerner to bring your family to the throne and your likes never had never had any respect 2 south

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                  • 11 January 11:04, by Logic

                    Poor Mohammed

                    You still confused as to which part of Sudan am from! because not long ago I was a southerner according to you. But you found nothing to indicate that as my comments are consistent with humility, not ethnical or religious affiliation although am a proud African which technically is not a race.

                    I don’t think you’re racist by choice, its more sub-conscious racism. But racism it is.

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                    • 11 January 12:35, by mohammed ali

                      Logic, my conscious is very clear and in conformity with my subconcious.The subconscious of every humam is anti-racist,if you understand anything abour subconscious!Because god has created us clean & clear.Put any children toghther and they will behave like God created them.My conscious and subconscious are in confirmity with the Quran which teaches us that He created us from one Soul....con

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                      • 11 January 14:02, by mohammed ali

                        ..and the teaching of prophit Mohamed( pbuh) who told us " racism is wrotten..leave it" The first man to call for prayers from the top of the holliest place on Earth, was "our master" Bilal , the Black, Arican, Ethiopian slave who was liberated by Islam and muslims up to this date all over the world call him SAYDENA " our master" Bilal.I am poor and am proud of being poor unlike you born ..con

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                        • 11 January 14:09, by mohammed ali

                          with a golden spoon in his mouth, crying to get it back again; never will happen, you will have to live the life of ordinary peple and wean yourself from z dreams of your family coming back to the throne on the back of southerners.This wont happen.Am a muslim and very much proud to be a muslim, that is my believeing and I donnot compell any one to share that with me.Hypocricy is when you hear...co

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                          • 11 January 14:14, by mohammed ali

                            ..somebody labelling a certain group of fellow humans with filty ratial description and you keep silent, while innocent people are being butchered, just for political gain.Politics is not above my humanity and certainly not above " morality" wheather Rommel like it or not!

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                    • 11 January 14:22, by mohammed ali

                      LOGIC,my conscious and sub-conscious are in conformity.They are in confirmity with the teaching of thw holly Quran which teaches that God had created us from one Soul. From Adam who was Black.Subconscious is anti-racist,if you understands anything about subconscious,because God has created us clean & clear.Put any children together & they will behave the same.

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                • 11 January 10:55, by Rommel

                  Logic:

                  I couldn’t have said it better myself. We must constantly call them out for their hypocrisy whenever they espouse such nonsense. I am so very glad that someone like you has been keeping them in check; you are without a doubt the most *logical* and disciplined discussant here.

                  Your pseudonym is fitting.

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                  • 11 January 14:10, by Jalaby

                    "you are without a doubt the most *logical* and disciplined discussant here. Your pseudonym is fitting."
                    What? you guys are so funny, have fun with marijuana (LOL).

                    Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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                    • 11 January 14:17, by Rommel

                      Jalabi:

                      If anyone is consuming drugs of any kind, it’s you. The man who believes that Sudan is a "rich" country. You’re projecting your afflictions and demons onto others. Seek help, Jalabi.

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                      • 11 January 18:09, by Jalaby

                        Rommel,
                        Absolutely Sudan is very rich in terms of resources, wide fertile agricultural land, water, oil, minerals, etc. We look poor despite our rich country because of previous war, conflicts, mismanagement, corruption and lack of democracy and transparency! Yes, you need immediate help Mr. Rommel!

                        Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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                        • 11 January 18:47, by Rommel

                          Jalaby:

                          Well if you’re applying that all-embracing definition, then virtually every Nation in Africa is included, along with some of the most inpoverished Nations across the globe. It’s not such an exclusive club, is it? I told you to seek help, to which you’ve inexplicably replied by returning the exact suggestion I forwarded to you. Do you feel clever? You’re a vapid fool.

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                          • 12 January 06:09, by Jalaby

                            Rommel,
                            Every body in this planet knows that Africa is very very rich in terms of resources and is considered to be virgin but because of all the reasons I mentioned above about Sudan perfectly apply to each one of them! Yes, Sudan is considered to be very rich, despite you’ve two big ears but you don’t listen!

                            Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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                    • 11 January 21:16, by Logic

                      Jalaby abu dirty jalabia, are you jealous? lol.lol.lol.

                      Thank you Rommel for your kind words but I believe many of us here are logical but refuse to apply it due to subjective reasoning when our group of belonging is insulted with mere man made words. Hence the likes of M.Ali will condemn an atrocity but deny the one unfolding before his eyes simply because he feels the need to be loyal.

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                      • 12 January 06:26, by Jalaby

                        Mr. No Logic,
                        Do you believe Rommel? I believe you do because you’re a naive person with so white heart(LOL).
                        My advice to you Mr. No Logic, don’t let them fool you again because you’re a good man but SPLM misled you, where is one new Sudan that they promised during fighting?never believe them again!

                        Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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              • 11 January 09:33, by Logic

                N. Sudan’s population is more than 25m and more than 60% live under the poverty line and less than $2 p/day, meaning more than the entire population of S. Sudan is suffering because of rampant corruption and mismanagement in N. Sudan.

                But yet they repeat their rhetoric about southern politicians as if we have no knowledge of Khartoum’s dealings. Lol.lol.lol, funny dudes.

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                • 11 January 13:55, by mohammed ali

                  Logic,get your statistic right!Sudan is more than 30 Millions it is almost 35.Poverty line was defined below $ 1 and now 1.25,so if it is $ 2 , we are ok!According to IMF & world bank we are number 142 well above 30 African countries,including Uganda,Tanzania,Kenya, Etiopia and Zambia!Now only 25% are below poverty line!That is still very high!After secession parameters will change dramaticaly!

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                  • 11 January 21:28, by Logic

                    M.Ali: "so if it is $ 2 , we are ok!" are you serious! You just feel the need to argue for the sake of argument. You have no direction.

                    The IMF & WB are imperialist organizations, the definition of poverty line would depend on who its defined by. More than 25m could also mean more than 30m but N. Sudan’s pop isn’t almost 35m.

                    PATHETIC

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              • 11 January 09:39, by Logic

                Northern supremacists who comment on here are not interested in a productive debate of reasoning but more into propaganda. If they repeat their propaganda enough times, they hope it would cement on the minds of the weak & unknowing of Sudan’s problems.

                They’re agents or simple minded blind loyalists, counter their nonsense but don’t attempt reasoning with them.

                Support the SRF for change.

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              • 11 January 09:47, by mohammed ali

                Rommel,of course there is corruption and whatever it is magnitude it is condemend and I donnot condon it.But the reality is that the corruption in SS is beyound any " norms" if there are norms for corruption. SS was getting 5 billion before seperation, when the minister of finance says there are 2 billions not accounted for, that is 40% of the budget, now the Audtor general also mentioned 1.5 bi

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                • 11 January 11:25, by Rommel

                  Mohammed Ali:

                  Accepting the existence of corruption in North Sudan is progress of a kind.

                  There’s a variety of reasons why corruption is more prevalent in the South in comparison to the North. For one, there’s the issue of administrative inexperience. There’s also an absence of truly functional state institutions. Our leaders are for the most part uneducated, as are the civil servants.

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                  • 11 January 11:57, by Rommel

                    Corruption in North Sudan is presumably more sophisticated and harder to detect - and so this too must be added to the list. Sudan is acknowledged as one of the most corrupt Nations in the world, and so I would like you to take that into consideration before you embark on yet another round of moralizing.

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              • 11 January 10:45, by green2

                part of this notion of corruption, i think if we put aside, the knowldge or evidence and use our wisedom, we will know that, not only one source of income can fix the problem of the country. Dispite without corruption, i dont think oil money can fix our problems in less than one decade as independent country! there are so many so sectors in s.sudan but one source! we need time!

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            • 11 January 10:18, by green2

              @Ali, stop reasoning child! How far did khartoum reach in term of development? how well off ppl in the N.sudan? building of the country is not like building the houses! this term’ corruption is like terrorism term! this is coin term, in which, citizens of Africa, like most stupid here, have to lost faith on their goverment! do you believe every MP or Minsters are all corrupted? why do they fought?

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            • 11 January 10:27, by Aarai Baka

              To Daniel

              just give Mohamed credit for pointing out the trust what going on in GOSS. the more u guys attacking him with insult of his religious will not give us any answers to why Kiir is not firing those who stole half billions dollars to their personal use. his religion got nothing to do with what going on now in Kiir administrations. Kiir have a power to fire those who misused public fund.

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      • 11 January 13:35, by Force 1

        They kept quiet because they were unaware of the scam from their counterparts in Khartoum!
        Reasonable people don’t jump to conclusion before being well informed with the facts, unlike you.

        Ali, Keep trying but you’ll never convince anybody in the South.

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  • 11 January 07:35, by Jalaby

    Mr. Minister,
    I thought you’re a thief only but it seems you’re both thief and liar too! how much you pay to Sudan?when?if you really pay the fees then what was the purpose of the endless negotiation that was held in Addis Abab many times?Thief Pagan Amum wasting our time discussing what?
    Tell your government to stop the trickery and pay our money right away

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    • 11 January 07:45, by Daniel Buolmawei

      Continuing with negotiation doesn’t mean charges and fees are not paid. Negotiation is for the long-term agreement but current charges and fees are paid based on current exports from South Sudan. You idiot.

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      • 11 January 07:55, by Jalaby

        You guys are all thieves and dumb, negotiation with dumb thief is time wasting, we will continue to take our fees upfront and we will never waste our time with thieves and liars!
        How these thieves and liars will build the south? I feel very sorry for southerners because their country is going to be nothing but a piece of hell!

        Abo Jalabia

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        • 11 January 08:12, by Rommel

          As opposed to the absolute heaven, the shangri-la that is North Sudan; a site in which a quarter of a million have perished over the last decade in Darfur, with over half a million displaced in the recent conflagarations in the Nuba mountains and Blue Nile. Your Nation is an international pariah and a known supporter of terrorism. Oh yes, we should be so envious.

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        • 11 January 08:38, by Chol A.

          Jalaby,
          Shala on your thieves words, south it soon closing down the pipe and they will wait what you come with! You really desperates of oil as we see.

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      • 11 January 09:04, by mohammed ali

        Daniel, what do you mean by "paid based on current exports from SS"..What do you mean by"negotiation is a long-term agreement"These are just word which means nothing!Pagan said with his own word and even claimed that Sudan had accepted his offer.So which was the lie this new one or the previous one?!Enjoy your time as long as possible in Australia, things are going to fall apart here very soon!

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        • 11 January 10:30, by green2

          @Ali! Do you really know the history of sudan? political structures and its systematice? Do know corruption is not only about money? how many coups happened in sudan and why such great number of coups constently happen? be reasonable sometime when you write thing that doesnt add up! sudan and now n.sudan is amoung the corrupt states on earth! dont focus on one element, money only! legal system!

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  • 11 January 07:37, by Rommel

    Our pathetic excuse of a government has been siphonig off billions of *our* dollars for nearly a decade, ignoring the tremendously important need in building an alternative pipeline. What did these hypocritical, corrupt and uninspired buffoons in Juba expect as a consequence of their dereliction of duty? Ice cream and sunshine? They’ve delivered us into the viper’s den.

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    • 11 January 10:26, by mohammed ali

      Rommel, Sudan is not Shangre-la and will not be that any time soon.We have huge problems and it would be stupid to deny them. CPA was ment to bring a lasting peace so that people , ordinary people and not me and you , to live in peace. We may care out politics but they care about their daily food, a pice of food.The continues tension would not bring this to them neither it would bring the changes.

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      • 11 January 10:34, by mohammed ali

        we desire to our people.We have problems and you have as well; it would be prudent to leave each with his own problems; and solve the outstanding issues amicably and friendly.Neither war nor hatred will help to bring changes, never.If SS is in peace we will be in peace, if it is prosporous we will the same.Europe had being fighting for centuries, thoug they call it " world war", now they are unite

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        • 11 January 10:44, by mohammed ali

          OK, now you are a seperate country, but that doesn’t mean we should be enemies or hate each other,we are still neigbours and people along the borders donnot know even what does passport or visa mean.This enviorment now gives those who benfit from the choas to loot and get with what they did and we and the poor people will only suffer.Peace will help us all, let us have a break.

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      • 11 January 12:09, by Rommel

        Mohammed Ali:

        That you’ve conceded the obvious is of little use now after months of hypocritical moralizing. You mention the CPA as if Khartoum has been equally committed to its full implementation. Khartoum still refuses to implement the Abyei protocol through its recalcitrant refusal to implement the PCA ruling.

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        • 11 January 12:52, by Rommel

          As long as Khartoum holds on to the Kafia Kingi enclave and continues to resist calls for the full implementation of the PCA ruling on Abyei... the status quo will remain.

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          • 11 January 13:14, by mohammed ali

            Rommel,you sound as if you want to win a battle here on the internet!If you think we will suffer from the status quo , then you are wrong!You mis-judge what you call moralization as weakness, that is sad and again wrong!We will suffer, certainly , stupid people denies facts;but you will suffer much more than you can imagine and nothing can stop our progres.Your oil minister mentioned our..co

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            • 11 January 13:27, by mohammed ali

              new pipeline thinking it has to do with SS oil! Well let him sleep untill he will come begging to use our pipeline!Now Sudan has blocke 2 tankers from leaving Port-Sudan, because they didn’t pay the port fees!Is this a kind of a joke? Everyship has to pay the port fees,even if it belongs to US!The reason is that they donnot have the money.No ship in z world can leave port without paying port fees

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            • 11 January 13:30, by Rommel

              Mohammed Ali:

              You’re more dense than I thought. I have not *misjudged* your hypocritical moralizing for weakness, in fact I would like you to stop your vainglorious blather about issues you evidently know so little about.

              Your military advantage will prove itself to be transient, and so don’t get snippy with me regarding the military balance between our two Nations.

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              • 11 January 13:36, by Rommel

                I’ll say this again:

                We’re under no military embargo and can purchase platforms from Israel, Russia and the United States without the attendant international pressure. We can acquire Russia’s S-300PMU2. The S-300PMU2 can track 100 targets simultaneously, 300km away. If we station the S-300PMU2 in Bentiu, we can down aircraft as far away as Kadugli (200km).

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                • 11 January 13:43, by Rommel

                  The Israelis are acknowledged as having some of the world’s most advance UAVs (IAI Heron), Main Battle Tanks (Merkava mk4), anti-tank missiles (Spike-NLOS), targeting pods (Litening 4), 300km long-range air to ground cruise missiles (Delilah) and an inexhaustible list of other advance platforms.

                  Imagine being bombed 300km away with the Russian iskander missile and the Israeli Delilah.

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                  • 11 January 14:34, by mohammed ali

                    Rommel, I think it is me who mis-judge you! It seems that you are a man full of hatred and anger!Where did I talk about weapons, guns, missles and all that "vainglorious blather" arsenal from USA,Israel and Russia. They didn’t the war in Afganistan,Iraq or Lebanon with all the weapons you are dreaming of! I thought you will talk about bread, books, medicine, roads, elctricity and all the ...con

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                    • 11 January 14:47, by mohammed ali

                      thing which they really need.If you think this as "vainglorious blather" or "hypocritical morality" then let it be,am not going to stop and despite your empty arrogancy and big words you are in no postion to " want me stop’ If you consider my talk as "vainglorious blather" what do you call this long list of weapons you brought up?It is funny!Who is thick?..

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                      • 11 January 14:56, by mohammed ali

                        I didn’t talk about millitary superiority, I donnot want war, we all loose in war; or you consider this hypocritical morality!No war is going to happen if there is war and oil export stops, how are you going to pay for this long list of weapon "Mr.Not-Thick ..Not-Dense..feather-light?As long as this pipeline is passing through our country no war, get it through your "thin-brain’ Peace will prevail

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                    • 11 January 15:01, by Rommel

                      Mohammed Ali:

                      You mistaken justified indignation for hatred. Khartoum occupies large swathes of our territory and refuses to implement the PCA ruling; a ruling it initially accepted as final and binding. What sentiment do you expect to predominate!? Khartoum is fortunate to have sheep for enemies. If people like me were in charge... Abyei and the Kafia Kingi enclave would be firmly in the South.

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                      • 11 January 15:14, by mohammed ali

                        Rommel, if hatred can acieve anything you would have acieved what you dream of.Hatred is burning south Sudan right now!It is burning here among yourself. I donnot see SS will survive with this level of hatre.The easiest word among you is to "kill" you say without remorse. This is horrible and any weapons falls in their hands will use it against themselves, not against us!

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                        • 11 January 15:31, by Rommel

                          Hatred achieves nothing, yes - but proactive, disciplined determination for the retun of every inch of your ancestral land, does! I find it extremely humerous that you would warn us of state sanctioned mass murder, when Khartoum has been the world champion in killing its own citizens in the hundreds of thousands in Darfur. Khartoum murdered half a million Nuba in the 80s and 90s.

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                      • 11 January 15:21, by Rommel

                        I compiled the list to let you know that your military advantage will not last and neither will your occupation. I have not implied that we would embark on a path of confrontation immediately... it will require time and freedom of action. An alternative pipeline and a diversification of revenue stream will be a required pre-requisite to launching this war. Half a decade of preparation is needed.

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                        • 11 January 17:04, by Rommel

                          The Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon example applies to you. The aforementioned Nations were/are protecting their ancestral homelands > lands that they are infinitely more knowledgeable about, and use that knowledge to devastating affect. Abyei, Kafia Kingi and many others... belong to us. The Ngok are more knowledgeable regarding Abyei than any other group of people!

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                          • 11 January 17:13, by Rommel

                            I wrongly assumed when you stated this sentence > "you will suffer much more than you can imagine" - that it was a military threat and for that mistake, I apologise.

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                        • 12 January 00:32, by mohammed ali

                          Rommel, are you going to spend half a decade preparing for war.You have acieved everything and now you are thinking about war!Half decade is five years! You better count what did you in half a decade, and be sure that your state will be there, after half a decade!

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  • 11 January 08:13, by kuac Agol

    Our oil should have more security than before, thank Mr. Minister for being vigilant about siphoning of those thiefs who use to steal everyday.

    South Sudan is not a bush any longer for you to steal without seen by our Security.

    shame on a thief and bless to the South Sudan Minister.

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  • 11 January 08:50, by Ahmado

    1 am asure my fellow south sudanese that after 20years coming south sudan will be poorest country, why am saying that because our government has poor control of its resources and Arabs enjoying stilling resources of south and our people that claim to be leaders they just watch. i don’t know in future which resources their children go to enjoy?

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    • 11 January 09:13, by athor deng

      Ahmedo..South Sudan is already the poorest Country in the world..Nothing is looking good for us right now, our politicians are corrupted and they dont care about us..
      South Sudanese in Senegal

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      • 11 January 10:53, by Ahmado

        Athor Deng 100% i agree with you brother because when see,our people that claim leaders in government serious struggle over the few dollars that they have suppose to be for development but they have the mean to be individual pocket or individual development which our struggle become as benefit for other people but suppose to be for all citizens of south sudan,

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  • 11 January 09:01, by Aweec

    Its just a matter of facts Mr. Bashir, that you are doing everything bad in the eye of the ICC. wait for your days don’t know when, but sooner!

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  • 11 January 09:36, by wad balad

    SPLM,

    Fine, Sudan threatens to sue south sudan for not paying transportation fee’s.

    If using the piplelines without paying services charges is not stealing then neither is the confiscation of oil. u dont want us to confiscate your oil? Then pay ur dues. simple!!

    Sudan has informed GOSS of its intentions and Albashir has said he will agree to balance of payment once and agreement is reached.

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  • 11 January 10:48, by kuoldit

    I knew so far that the Sudan government has been panicking economically and that is how far they had now reached. I believe that by sovereignity, the entire world is now challenged by this transparent theft by the government of Sudan. Can you(international community) advise on how the young nation can go about this?
    I appreciate the legal stance of the ROSS in dealing with Khartoum.

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  • 11 January 11:49, by Jalaby

    “Khartoum thinks that it can invade South Sudan like what Iraq did to Kuwait in 1990. Don’t we know what happened to Iraq? Where is Saddam Hussein now”, minister Marial said
    What?invade who?if we want to invade them then why we let them separate and go in the first place?

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    • 11 January 11:56, by Jalaby

      I’ll take the advantage and answer that question, we let them go because we can’t keep them 2nd class citizen for good, we want them to enjoy freedom after long time of terrible slavey, and damn Arab/Jalaba, right Mr. Minister?
      I think this minister is so drunk, he is very cheap, I’m very sure he is drunk with "Aragi" last night!

      Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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  • 11 January 12:21, by Jalaby

    "beginning the construction of a new pipeline to permanently divert 13% of what he called “Dar Blend”.Mr. Minister, we’re not building new pipeline to steal your oil we rather build them for our new oil wells that will soon be productive, we will be able to export 180k barrel per day by the end of this year...

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  • 11 January 12:32, by Jalaby

    Mr. Minister,
    Sudan is building new pipeline from Khartoum (Al-Jiley) to Madani city, remember we started exporting oil in 1999 with only 150k barrel per day and increased it rapidly to 500k before separation, after Marawi dam, Al-Damazeen dam expansion will finish this year, Higher Adbara dam river and Setate are underway...

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  • 11 January 12:39, by Jalaby

    Mr. Minister,
    Building highway roads and connect Sudan with its neighbor are underway, after Eriteria and Ethiopia, Egypt will soon follow, Chad and RCA will come next as soon as Darfour roads are done, Mr. Minister, we’re rich country and don’t need to steal your oil but rather we will soon give you our charity money when we soon have surplus in our budget

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    • 11 January 12:49, by Lang

      A SURPLUS?!? AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
      YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS? HAAHAHAHA

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      • 11 January 13:07, by Jalaby

        Mr. Lang,
        When Sudan decided to explore and export oil and signed the Consortium with Chines and Malician companies in 1996 during the harsh war with the rebel in the south you and Mr. No Logic said "HAHA" and when Sudan exported it in 1999 with 150k BPD you guys made a big "FART"!
        Just keep saying "HAHA" and this time you will make both FART & SHIT!

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    • 11 January 12:53, by Lang

      Jalaby stop putting crack in your sheesha. You’re saying crazy things.

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    • 11 January 13:18, by Rommel

      Jalabi:

      You really do live in your own world. How much of the 180K will be used for domestic consumption? You don’t know, do you? Most of the 180k will be diverted to domestic consumption, not export. Sudan is rich!? When, and by what definition? What parameters are you using that has you convinced that Sudan is indeed rich!?

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      • 11 January 13:41, by Jalaby

        Mr. Rommel,
        How much of the 150K was used for domestic consumption? How did it jump from 150k to 500k?why 180k will stay 180k and won’t jump to 320k by 2016 and more?
        You guys as long as you wear this gloomy glass and keep snuff marijuana you will always see things double and your eyes stay red like beam of fire!

        Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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        • 11 January 14:14, by Rommel

          Jalabi:

          Have you any intention of saying anything remotely intelligent? The vast majority of your oil production is for your domestic consumption. You have not even attempted to dispute this. Oil production increased when were a unified Nation, precisely because the Chinese came onto the scene and invested a great deal into this industry. Our production will also increase when Block B & E are

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          • 11 January 14:27, by Rommel

            bought online. Our oil production will not remain static, it will increase. Block B is apparently the largest of all, and will surely increase our production, as well as our profits.

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            • 11 January 15:31, by mohammed ali

              Rommel,hope it will increase and you become rich.The world is not created only for us to compete with other.America is the largest importer of oil,does that make her poor?If we are poor that will not make you rich and if we are bad that doesn’t make u good and vice versa.We are not the only 2 countries living on this planet.Though we dream for the better,we are satisfied with what we have.

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              • 11 January 16:12, by Rommel

                Mohammed Ali:

                I am afraid your example is preposterous. The United States has the world’s reserve currency and is the most technologically advanced Nation on the planet.

                You cannot compare it to Sudan at all!

                You have also got to stop arguing over points no one raised to begin with. No one has asserted that we are the exclusive duo on this planet. I tempered Jalaby’s roseate assertions.

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  • 11 January 15:57, by Tambura

    Government of south Sudan are lack of leadership lack of judgement they will not deliver any service to our people.Why they don t want to build pipeline to Kenya which is not far like Portsudan? without oil we can not survive?South Sudan has been in war for more than 50 years we didn’t know there was oil in bottom of our land when we started war. we should build infrastructure for local use for no

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  • 11 January 19:34, by pabaak

    The government in Juba need to come up with an alternative to oil, we are blessed with more than five regional borders, if we build roads,and collect taxes on these borders, are not enough to offset the oil revenues? Is not acceptable our oil continue to fall on the hands of thefts in Khartoum, its naturally as John Garang said about them, the system in Khartoum is too deform to be reformed.

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  • 11 January 22:43, by Northern Sudanese

    hmmmmm looting south sudan oil well well and admitting that just in January Bashir was looting your oil since the south was born BTW he is not looting or stealing but he is taking them while you are busy with those nuer and whatsoever. carry on bashir let’s see what kiir is gonna do about it.

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