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Nuer marginalization in South Sudan a false claim – minister

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April 26, 2011 (JUBA) – A senior official in the semi-autonomous Government of Southern Sudan (GoSS), has described as ‘baseless allegation’ any claims by members of the Nuer ethnic group that they have been marginalized by the Dinka-led government in South Sudan.

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John Luk Jok, GOSS Minister of Legal Affairs and Constitutional Development (Photo Sudan Vote)

John Luk Jok, the minister of Legal Affairs and Constitutional Development in GoSS and also a member of the Nuer community, which is the second largest ethnic group in South Sudan after the Dinka, said he was disturbed by false claims he hears from the community members that the Nuer are being marginalized in the government. He made the remarks while addressing thousands of Christian members in the Nuer congregation of the Presbyterian Church in Juba during the Easter celebrations on Sunday.

Luk who strongly criticized the Nuer military leaders who have rebelled, including Peter Gatdet, because of alleged exercise of tribalism in the government, said those rebels did not understand that they were running away from the government in which the Nuer have a significant representation.

“We [Nuer] have seven ministers and also the post of the Vice President in the Government of Southern Sudan, and yet you complain of being marginalized. That is not true at all,” he told the congregation.

Luk said while others fear the fact that the Nuer soldiers are by far the majority in South Sudan army, the SPLA, and their officers are in command of most of the brigades and units deployed across South Sudan, yet those of Peter Gatdet still run away from the very army.

“The SPLA Chief of General Staff, James Hoth Mai, is also son of the Nuer community. The Nuer sons and daughters are the majority in the SPLA in the whole of South Sudan. Even if you go to Greater Bahr Ghazal itself, you will find that most of the soldiers and officers in charge of the SPLA forces in the field are from Nuer,” he further explained.

The minister appealed to the Nuer community to try to convince their sons and daughters who have rebelled against the government to abandon the rebellion and come back to the system. He expressed concern that the violent situation is becoming Nuer fighting against Nuer on both sides.

“Now because the rebels are mostly composed of Nuer fighters, and the SPLA is equally mostly composed of Nuer sons and daughters, when the rebels confront the SPLA, it will be the same sons of Nuer in the SPLA that will fight them,” Luk lamented.

Major General Peter Gatdet rebelled against the government and decided to wage war in Unity state, killing his own people, he said. Luk further explained that the commander in charge of the army’s Division Four in Unity state, Major General Gatduel Gatluak, is also a Nuer and is the one currently clashing with Peter Gatdet. The same situation with Gabriel Tanginya, a Nuer, whose forces clashed on Saturday with the SPLA forces in Jonglei state, commanded by another Nuer, SPLA Brigadier General Gatwech Gai.

He recalled a similar situation during the inception of the SPLM/A in 1983, when the movement was fighting against Nuer forces of those of late Samuel Gai Tut and Gordon Koang Chol, of Anya-nya II, during which the Nuer were also the majority in the SPLA’s early years.

The minister’s public concerns attracted a lot of reactions from members of the congregation after the Sunday’s Easter celebrations.

“I do agree with the minister that we as a community or Christians should discourage armed rebellions against our government anywhere and by any community,” commented a junior government official from the Nuer community who wanted to remain anonymous.

“Of course, we as Nuer have the post of the Vice President and the seven ministers in GoSS, in addition to the army Chief of Staff who represent us in the government and army.”

He however said the minister should not generalize the whole Nuer community as warmongers just because of individuals who decided to rebel. “You know, it is not right to blame a community as a whole as if it is responsible for the rebellion of individual military officers who happen to come from the community,” he cautioned.

He said some other communities have individual senior officers who have rebelled against the government such as General George Athor from Dinka ethnic group, Olony from Shilluk and David Yauyau from Murle.

“As the minister himself did correctly confirm that the Nuer officers are the majority in charge of SPLA forces in the field, and since those majority Nuer officers and soldiers deployed in the ten states of South Sudan have not rebelled like Peter Gatdet, then any rebellion of a single or few individual officers should not be seen as community-based,” he argued.

“There is a point His Excellency John Luk has missed though I generally agree with his advice against violence and all that,” said another commentator. “I think people like Peter Gatdet did not rebel on behalf of the Nuer community. If they say they are fighting against corruption and tribalism, then that corruption is not only affecting the Nuer community and tribalism may not necessarily mean tribalism against the Nuer in particular. It could be against other minority tribes, which Gatdet might have seen being marginalized and wanted to fight on their behalf,” he inquired.

He said he read in the media that the rebels were talking about the type of constitution for transition they want to see implemented on July 9 and the rights of other political parties in South Sudan. “Is Nuer community representing the constitution and the other political parties which the rebels talked about?” he asked.

“Yes, minister John Luk’s advice is very good for the community. Sometimes we have our sons who think they are always available to fight on behalf of others and that always puts our community at the disadvantage,” said an elder.

He further exemplified that while others in South Sudan submitted to the system of British colony a century ago, the Nuer took up the challenge of defending their territories until the British was discouraged from continuing with its colonial mission to South Sudan and left. “That was the beginning of disadvantages to our community because we were historically condemned by the British, then the Arabs, and denied us access to education for fear of developing us into future educated defenders of ours and others rights in South Sudan,” he further explained.

The elder further emphasized on the consequences of war against development, saying the senior government officials from the Nuer community should support peaceful dialogue with the rebels to end the confrontations.

“We can be proud of our courageous history that we had a visionary prophet, Ngundeng; we were the first community in Africa to be bombed using planes during our courageous encounter with the British; and also the first to bring down a plane used by the British during the encounters,” he said, adding, but the situation disadvantaged us in terms of access to education, which we are not proud of,” he continued.

He further advised that it is time for children of the Nuer community to go to school like the rest without their security being violated by rebels from the community. “I support dialogue with the rebels to end the violence. John Luk was right that it is becoming a Nuer-Nuer confrontation. May be that was what our Vice President, Riek Machar, warned would happen and therefore was not for war against the militias or rebels but preferred peaceful dialogue with them,” he said.

The elder also warned that the violence between the SPLA and the rebels can quickly turn into tribal war if the rebels, commanded by Peter Gatdet or any other Nuer rebel, carry out attacks into states or areas inhabited by other ethnic communities.

He said since the Nuer have the positions already mentioned in the government, they are therefore better off than the rest and would as well “eat their share silently.”

“Yes, John Luk is right. Why are the rest who are more disadvantaged not rebelling?” asked a university student. Let me tell you this shocking fact, even the Dinka tribe that some Nuer are collectively blaming for allegedly dominating the government and corrupting it don’t make their people in their home counties to benefit from what they have looted in terms of development? They eat the money here in Juba and send the bulk of the money like refugees to foreign banks abroad in East Africa, Europe or Australia and may get confiscated from there one day,” he said.

“We would be victimizing the whole Dinka population for no reason because, during my routine visits to Lakes and Warrap states, people are still walking half naked in their villages; no schools, no hospitals, no agricultural schemes, no roads or any sign of considerable civilization that can be brought to their home areas by any form of organized tribal corruption.”

He said the Nuer officers should not rebel this time but wait patiently for implementation of federal system after July 9 when, he explained, Juba will no longer control much of the resources coming from the states, during which the rich states will compete with others using large share of their own resources, and work to minimize corruption.

The university student said the type of corruption in South Sudan is not an organized tribal corruption, but a selfish one which only benefits few individuals at the expense of even their own ethnic groups.

“You see, in some other African countries that have corrupt tribal-based leaderships, they loot the wealth of that nation in order to invest it and develop their home towns and villages,” adding that this is always to benefit populations of their ethnic groups on the ground in order to have economic upper hand over other ethnic groups.

“But this is not happening with the type of corruption we talk about in South Sudan. So, I don’t call it Dinka or Nuer marginalization of others or organized Dinka tribal corruption because 99% of their populations have not benefited from the looted resources for the last six years,” he further observed.

He said it is a small clique of people from various ethnic groups, including Nuer and Dinka that have been squandering the resources of the nation without even benefiting the bulk of their respective ethnic populations in their constituencies.

However, another Juba university student partially disagreed with the view of his colleague. “First of all, I do agree that corruption in South Sudan should not be blamed on a single tribe, such as the Dinka as an organized act, but the son of that community who happens to be the president should be held responsible for condoning corrupt practices,” he argued.

He further argued that because the president is the only top official in government with the constitutional power to appoint, assign and remove senior government executive officials and army and police officers, he should be blamed for appointing some wrong people or condoning corrupt practices for the last six years, despite his zero tolerance policy on corruption.

He further explained that since the president [Salva Kiir] happens to come from the Dinka ethnic group, people from other ethnic groups also assume that when things go wrong under his watchful eyes, that condoning leadership style on corruption and other matters also represents the collective attitude of the Dinka ethnic group as a whole.

“Some people say maybe if somebody else from a different ethnic group becomes president with such constitutional powers to appoint, assign and remove officials, maybe that person could use that constitutional power to make things change better by effectively following up implementation of good policies,” he said. He added that this view is where the blame is put on the president, which is then perceived to be representing his community’s interest when not acting to prosecute senior corrupt officials such as the former two GoSS finance ministers who happened to hail from the Dinka community.

He also blamed the Nuer senior officials in the government, including John Luk, for allegedly not being proactive in influencing the government’s security strategy in South Sudan, which he said should include recommendation of peaceful dialogue with any militias or rebels as the solution to end the violence before 9 July.

“If minister John Luk and his colleagues in government are seriously concerned about the violence between the SPLA and the rebels which kills sons of the Nuer community from both sides, then let them turn away the guns which are aimed at the Nuer community by strongly recommending peaceful dialogue with the militias or rebels,” he said.

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  • 27 April 2011 09:40, by Mr. Truthteller

    Good points,

    Those tribal corrupt officials are just eating alone leaving their populations in the cold. Wow, this is of course why I am not worried about the Dinka-led terrible corruption because their villages are still in the Stone Age. Every Dinka wants to steal millions of dollars so that he or she becomes either ‘beny mi tot’ or ‘beny mi diit’ depending on the amount stolen. The two governors of the richest states of Unity and Upper Nile, Taban Deng and Simon Kun Puoch, send all the 50% oil revenues to Juba to develop the whole South, yet those selfish few individuals pocket them into their deep pockets. They cannot invest in their villages because they don’t want to upgrade the villagers and become economically equal with them because this can threaten their being outstanding ‘benys’ in the community. Few individuals are eating the money there in Juba and other capitals and send the rest abroad in foreign banks. We will freeze all those stolen monies soon after July 9. Then our rich states with oil and agriculture will take the front seat in real federal system where we take 50% of oil revenues for our oil producing states and develop quicker than the poor states of corrupters.

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    • 27 April 2011 09:43, by Mr. Truthteller

      H.E. Uncle John Luk should not simply blame the Nuer while they are also the leaders representing the Nuer community in the government. If they are concerned about the fighting involving the Nuer on both sides (SPLA and rebels), why don’t they push for and find peaceful means to stop it? If your children go astray in the streets, you the parents should also be blamed for negligent or lack of good care. Are you busy praying for your own positions at the expense of the wasting Nuer populations? Be proactive as suggested by one commentator and find a way of stopping the violence as government officials and community leaders at the same time. Make sure any dialogue with the rebels nobody will shoot the gun from behind with the intention to spoil it. Peace with the rebels is the best solution to avoid further bloodshed. You know the Nuer very well, Uncle John Luk, and when the say ‘enough is enough’ (ca kac lora), then the hell lets loose. You can wake up one morning to only find that all those holding guns on both sides have woken up and realized the fact that they have been taken for a ride and begin to aim their guns at another direction all together. That would be a disaster and more expensive than to make genuine peace with them now. Or if you, our parents, have been overwhelmed by the game to the point of desire to surrender, we the youth of Nuer should take over from you. To be frank with you, we Nuer youth are only proud of the role played by our great grandparents, and not proud of many of our fathers in government. Give us your current positions that represent the Greater Nuer in the power sharing arrangement. We have many PhDs and Masters degree holders. We can play the game to the tune of tit for tat. If others want the game smooth, we can also play it smooth and at the center of it. And if they want to play it rough, we can also play it rough and even go to an extra mile to mould them into a shape we would want them to look like. Otherwise, please be proactive in influencing strategies of the security sector as advised by your people, and don’t just cry foul while watching your people being driven into a tribal war with the aim to reduce the Nuer population. You may never know, it may turn ugly one day and force you to choose which side to run to for cover. You better stop the burning fire now before it spreads uncontrollably.

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      • 27 April 2011 11:07, by Liberator

        Mr. Truthteller

        I couldn’t have said better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        I’m young and ready to play this game if need be!!!

        I’m tired of my great-grand parents legacy being spoiled by few selfish individuals in exchange for a couple of dollars!!!!

        Nuer history have been written about century before any of their counter parts were written about. this is 21st century, Nuer can not be passive on these dirty tricks. I’m from Generation x and my cousins are from Generation.dotcom, they know how to play every game there is.. it’s time to let loose the term ’’ Kac Lora’’!!!!

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        • 27 April 2011 14:18, by Covert

          It’s isn’t marginalization, it’s just incompetent and false assumption inferiority against Dinka

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        • 27 April 2011 16:22, by rebelson

          Rebels want better treatment of everybody and a corruption free country!.

          Without these, unrest will be there for a long time.

          rebelson, son of a rebel

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      • 27 April 2011 12:39, by Mr. godfather master of reality

        by the Dinka-led government in South Sudan.

        I think most southerners will agree
        this is A Dinka’s government
        we all know and we have seen it on the ground

        ladies and gentlemen
        this is not southern sudan government
        it is A Dinka’s government

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      • 27 April 2011 17:31, by Paul Ongee

        Ya truthteller, Liberator and the likes, do you have the gut to interpret the below statement?

        “Is Nuer community representing the constitution and the other political parties which the rebels talked about?”

        To me personally, the word "rebel" is too big for the characterization of the "hit-and-run activity" of the Khartoum-backed southern militia generals. I have never heard before that militia generals have represented a minority on this planet.

        All the militia generals need to go to school of though so that they will be able not just to think but also to analyze important issues of freedom and peace instead of defecting to compete for Khartoum-sponsored militia activity aimed at destabilizing South Sudan.

        Paul Ongee
        Khartoum Watch

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    • 27 April 2011 10:00, by Dinka Dominated SPLA

      It is so good that nuer themslef are now confussing that all outlaws of militias in south sudan are nuer,
      Nuer were bron to rebelled no matter what you said minster, your people are being curs by God, their gens, blood are addicted to being nothings but nyagateen,
      Eventhought we give them top leadership today, they will still rebelled aganist their leaders, what a shame. start with riek machar the father of nyagateen is stupid indeed,
      ever illitrate in nuer community want to be a leader, death to them,

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      • 27 April 2011 10:10, by Liberator

        Dinka dominated _Nothing

        Att: General public

        The general public will no that you are fake orphan who can not get attention from any body but self.

        Drop that name or anything you are trying to convey will be treated as a trash coming out of desperate individual whose mission is nothing but stealing some one’s valor. So, I would advise the general public to see this thief as stealing the majority bravery. but it is hard to do that because stealing people bravery is impossible unless you are one them. in this case, unless you are one those majority Nuer in SPLA who are doing the fighting against their own brothers.

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        • 27 April 2011 13:18, by Marco A. Wek

          Liberator, individualizing your comment is the best way brother.

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      • 28 April 2011 22:04, by Larjiak kalargoy

        Dinkadominate spla,

        If you have any best friends or relatives, they should be worry about you, cause I think you’re sick in anyway.Somebody needs take care of you for special treatment.

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    • 27 April 2011 10:07, by Dinka Dominated SPLA

      The minster just said that to calm nyagateen but yeas there is more outlaws in nuer communities who are trying to couse chaos in south sudan, but it dose’t mean that nuer are majority in mighty SPLA,

      Yaeh motherfucker actiongatkuoth aka traitor born to rebelled, who in the hell can called Dinkas as coward if you are not confussed son of nyagat. now did any one from the SPLA/M surrendered him or herself to khartoum during your KPA and be came a vice perisent or governor? whereas those who runn to khartoum and came back because they heard that there is a peace came out in kenya between brave SPLA and NCP, your gang leader riek machar is nothings then opportunist leader aka doom coward.

      If you define cowardice as running away at the first sign of danger, screaming and tripping and begging for mercy, then yes, Mr. nyagat riek,is cowardic,
      ahahahahaha, ahahahahaha death to coward, and i hope if Ganrag and kiir were coward there would be bo CPA like that one of KPA of coward nyagateen of nuer, ahahahah no time to talk with groups of coward tried to be somebody know something while his father is a coward.

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      • 27 April 2011 21:01, by twins

        I never want to comment on this website but, it seems like some people don’t understand the reason for CPA. Some poeple don’t understand how CPA came and how form did it came. Here is how I understand it.

        CPA came in form of SELF DETERMINATION which separate Dr. Reik and his leader Dr.John Garang. This was why Reik left Garang and went to Khortuom to make Beshir promise to give South Sudan SELF DETERMINATION in which later he himself, Beshir, disrespected. As a result, Reik left becuase Beshir did not keep up with his promise that he made.

        CPA was brought by both Reik and Garang after they merged together as one rebels group instead of two; and made compromises. Dr.Garang accepted SELF DETERMINATION and assumed his position as Reik is Boss/leader just like it was before.

        According to my opinion as a son of Southerners, I don’t think there would have been CPA if Reik and Garang did not come together as one. The reason why Beshir did not respect SELF DETERMINATION signed by Dr. Reik, is because he, Beshir, knew Southerners divided themselves, therefore, they did not have that much power to over threw his geverment if he disrecpect his promises. Likewise, this would had happened if Garang signed a peace without Reik. in the other hand, other countries did not involved becuase Southers were fightins each others.

        I know it’s hard to understand this fact if one favores one side rather than thinking as a judge.

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    • 27 April 2011 10:42, by Murle Intellectual

      Mr Luk is paid by Mr Kiir to speak nonsense. Dinka is using Murle and Nuer to kill their own communities respectively. Luk is lying. Let them eat their cursed blood money and stop barking

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      • 27 April 2011 12:10, by Albino Kuel

        Dear Brother,
        Those who don’t know what they are doing are really need to confuse the Government of GOSS,otherwise people should not always talk of Dinka in the GoSS.

        Having a leadership is through God but not by your own force.
        Kuel

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      • 27 April 2011 14:36, by Abugurunchol

        murlthief:
        thief of they childrens who bring you on this website all
        murl will be taken to county for maked crima against humanity by different trible speceial nuer.dinka and nuer are brothern man donot inter beween them you will past something.let your father jalab go,you will see coming days.

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      • 27 April 2011 21:07, by Refuter

        to murle
        shame on you do you have voice to speak? how many murle in APLA/M o.o1%, thank God that dinkas liberate you from slavery

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    • 27 April 2011 13:17, by JOHN CHOL

      Bravo to HE.John Luke Jok for his courageous advise to his own community.Minister Luke is 100% correct in his patriotic analysis that Nuer sons and daughters are outnumbering other communities in the national army. The same community is fairly represented in the Government of South Sudan unlike other communities meaning that they are part and parcel of the discision-making process in the government.There is no good reason to rebel against your own brothers and wage a bloody war over petty issues that people could sit and dialogue on the table. We don’t want to shed more blood this time,if we have grievances, lets resort to table conference rather taking up arms against our own children.

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    • 27 April 2011 13:36, by Sala Gai

      Mr. Truthteller
      It’s good in English Mr. Truthteller to have paragraph in your sentences or you are not taught of those English article. I hope people like you should have to acquire more knowledge in commenting in public site in correct English with emotion giving public right not like that.

      Am sorry please take it easy

      Peace and Unity among other is needed in South Sudan.

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    • 27 April 2011 13:44, by Sala Gai

      It’s good that we are telling ourselves that we are not marginalize so that can understand ourselves as we can’t make same people understand us in the way think different in activities as Nuer community.

      These time is contribute to our right channel to take over the leadership as it’s our time the second to Dinka community too.

      My people Am advising you not to fight against our Gov’t nor our people in South Sudan.

      Thanks

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    • 27 April 2011 13:48, by Tomorrow

      @ Truthteller and the associates

      Your crying has been proved wrong today by your uncle John Luk. If that Dinka are the only corrupt officials in GOSS then why don’t you develop where there are no Dinka. To be clear, is there no corruption in the seven ministries headed by Nuer? Are all the other non Dinka states developed to the African standard? If not then all the accusations leveled against Dinka as the most corrupt are not baseless. People need to talk sense by admitting corruption as a general problem for South Sudan and stop using it (corruption)as a pretext for all your hidden agendas like coups and so on. Mind yourselves now, those practicing corruption and rebellion will still be doing it whether in the Nuer, Shilluk or Jur led government because it has become a disease to them. The Nuer’s ideology that Dr. Machar is the only one to improve GOSS as the next leader is a mere lie simply because he is also corrupt unless you bring your claimed Ngundeng to be the successor to Kiir.
      Thanks

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    • 27 April 2011 13:58, by Lamija Milaja

      Dinka and Nuer,

      My advise to you is that value life of human beings over cows. Take example from people of Great Equatoria. Sensless fighting is meaningless. It is time to fight by reasoning not physical fight. Don’t you see Equatorians are behaving? behave in a civilized way like Equatorians. Dinka and Nuer need to be taught civilization. When Equatorians gathered for their conference others were calling regionalism, kokora etc. Now discussing in a peaceful way as Greater Equatorians did, is it not good? Stop feeding on blood of your own people. Shame on you for tarnishing image of south Sudan all over the world.

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    • 27 April 2011 14:03, by choldit

      John Luk Joak!

      SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      I have done v.good during election by leting your people not fight over election with SPLM on your behalf. That gained you credit from Nuer.

      Now you are the only vital minister pose holder outside the Dinka held poses but you failed to see that but come to attack Nuer community as rebellous. How dare you belind minister? Can’t you see that Gatwech Gai was setup to fight Tangs so that the Nuer sons will kill themselves and the soliders that come with Tang will not be integrated into SPLA?

      Repend John Luk! that comment is a very distructive to Nuer regardless of what side they are in that wrongly timed war.

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    • 27 April 2011 15:02, by DANDHEL

      What else can you Nuer fools says while your own son of Nuer deneyed your Nuer Marginalization in the South Sudan and in the whole Sudan as you all clain as an excusses? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Shut the fucked up and shut the fucked down fool and be civilised...

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    • 27 April 2011 17:35, by Paul Ongee

      Ya truthteller, Liberator and the likes, do you have the gut to interpret the below statement?

      “Is Nuer community representing the constitution and the other political parties which the rebels talked about?”

      To me personally, the word "rebel" is too big for the characterization of the "hit-and-run activity" of the Khartoum-backed southern militia generals. I have never heard before that militia generals have represented a minority on this planet.

      All the militia generals need to go to school of thought so that they will be able not just to think but also to analyze important issues of freedom and peace instead of defecting to compete for Khartoum-sponsored militia activity aimed at destabilizing South Sudan.

      Paul Ongee
      Khartoum Watch

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    • 27 April 2011 17:37, by Paul Ongee

      Ya truthteller, Liberator and the likes, do you have the gut to interpret the below statement?

      “Is Nuer community representing the constitution and the other political parties which the rebels talked about?”

      To me personally, the word "rebel" is too big for the characterization of the "hit-and-run activity" of the Khartoum-backed southern militia generals. I have never heard before that militia generals have represented a minority on this planet.

      All the militia generals need to go to school of thought so that they will be able not just to think but also to analyze important issues of freedom and peace instead of defecting to compete for Khartoum-sponsored militia activity aimed at destabilizing South Sudan.

      Paul Ongee
      Khartoum Watch

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    • 27 April 2011 18:31, by Tabun Gai

      Dear writer, your comments are dragotory and baseless. Eventhough your Nuer brothers and sisters have PhD’s and Masters, they’re still Neur. You Neur are lacking common senses and always opt for violence as mean of solving problems. Remember, this time, it’s gonna be worse because our attention have been distracted by Arabs went we were fighting than, the enemy of southern Sudan. Now, south Sudan is in our own hands. However, if you try to wage a war against Dinka, Neur will not have home. We will dislodge you guys out of south Sudan. Don’t be surprise if Rwanda genocide occur.
      Neur are know for there greedness and short vision. They will sale south Sudan for just food. You guys are lacking logic thinking.
      When it come to Oil, it’s a national resources, it just happen to be located in your area and its alway remain the property of a nation. Though the system of federalism is put in place, Dinka are going to be majority regardless. out of 10 states, 7 are occupied by Dinka. Give me a break, I’m tired of Neur always dragging southerners back when we are almost close to achieving the goal. You’re indeed curse by your prophet.
      Neur are born to be rule by others, and they will always remain that way. in contrast to other ethnic group, a Neur is educated, they’re lacking ability to lead. for instant, Riak Machar is the stupidest person I have seen having the western education and still have no ability to lead.

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      • 28 April 2011 03:40, by Gathoth Gai

        To you Mr Tabun Gai,or ass,

        Listen here,your comment is basless comment that i ver seen in my intire reading on this Website.But,if you have sense of common on your mind please keep your dirty mouth shut before you fall in the hall.If HON..John Luk,give that kind of advise to his community,its doesn’t mean that Nuer are useless.Nuer are right hand of South if you know the reality.

        In fact,during the British colonee, Nuer had been never get caugh by the British army,while Dinka have been given suger to get rid of them do you know that?

        Mentioning RWANDA,genocide,I don’t know if you are there in 1991 when the war occured between NUER and Dinka Bor,do you remember that.

        incontrast,if you there what happen to the Bor town and where were you Dinka at that moment?Likely, talknging about South Sudan Now is in our hands you and who?Shame on you son of sucker and be careful saying otherwise we will go to hell if you want too.

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        • 29 April 2011 14:03, by BO$$ PLAYA

          @ Gathoth Gai,

          Mate, you are the only without foundations in regards to your claims. First off, you claim that "Nuer are the right hand of South", but what is right hand with out the hands or fingers? All of the South Sudan tribes are what makes parts as your analogy suggests.
          Your views are not academic (no viable sources) the only bases you have are "he say she say". I do not have nor do I share your tribal views to say that Dinka (or nay Sudanese tribe for argument’s sake) is better than the other but I do believe that you are an embarrassment to the Nuer people because a lot of my Nuer friends do not certainly agree with your views.
          Additionally, it is a shame to judge everyone on the actions of one person e.g. comments by Dinka Dominated SPLA just as it wouldn’t be fair for me to judge all Nuer people on the actions of the few e.g. the illiterate Gadet, DR Riak do you want me to continue? I think you get the message!!
          "where was Dinka when Riak annihilated the innocent people of Bor town" you asked. Well blood, majority of Dinka and others including yours truely were doing the national duties, defending it!!! And what were Nuer doing you might ask, well selling the nation, back stabbing it yes you guessed it even raping it, metaphorically.
          Tabun’s comments are sensible and you should respect intelligent contribution when you see one unless your illiterate can not comprehend anything beyond violence.

          Kind regards,

          BO$$ PLAYA

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    • 27 April 2011 23:24, by Dansedit

      If one community can have seven ministers,post of vice president,chief of general staff and deputy C-in-C ...oh my God !!!! and others don’t have one ! there is imbalance in the government and that gov’t is corrupted .....so Nuer community is just crying crocodile tears....or ironically they are pretending coz they are happy,so they should think of an alternative way to claim more positions in the GOSS.

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    • 27 April 2011 23:30, by Supporter of Naath Cause

      luk Jock shut up moron! who are you to talk about Gai Tut or mighty naath like that! where are your so-called seven minsiters when our naath blood was being shed by your masters! ignorants like you are going to be problem to our success! eat your monies that are bribed with and keep quite because people like you will victimize the whole nuer community!

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  • 27 April 2011 09:44, by Omoni jr

    hahahaaha
    hahahaha,
    i love the minister speech,john luk, you are true south sudanese.

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    • 27 April 2011 10:03, by actiongatkuoth

      omoni jr,
      you dinka need to be subjugate by my great Naath,
      you said you love the speech of john why don,t you love food only????????????/
      you love food and speech at the go???//

      schame on you food lover dinka,

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      • 27 April 2011 10:20, by Omoni jr

        actiongatkuoth,
        am neither Dinka nor nuer,am southerner.
        you have right to rebel and get killed too.
        All choices are yours ,

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      • 27 April 2011 11:46, by Wunne dohor

        The minister is 100% right. I think you are a great food lover of this time like your brothers, those who rebel. Look why they ran out with low ranks and come back with high ranks and demanding of ordered intergration.
        SPLA made it CLEAR, You stupid guy that no more talk. It has to be tried in the field. Surrendering will be the answer.

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    • 27 April 2011 10:18, by Jurdit Mayen

      @liberator
      You better tell people the truth about this issue instead of telling the commentators to shut up.If that is the case,then Dr Riak must give the position to the owner Mr Wani Iga who had that position during the war.
      I hope many NAATH have convinced from the statemant of the minister Luk Jok.
      Thanks mr Luk Jok,Dinkas are political seculars in South Sudan.

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    • 27 April 2011 10:26, by Nhomlawda

      Nuer will never be satisfied even if you give them the whole of South Sudan, they will still slaughter themselves based on clanal differences.
      Better they should be silenced and be told to follow the system or face hammer discipline.

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      • 27 April 2011 10:46, by Mr. Truthteller

        Nhomlawda,

        You are very wrong as usual. We are not after the whole of South Sudan, because if we are, why would we feed you poor people like orphans with our oil wealth from our two richest states?

        What we want is the post of the President so that we have that constitutional power to remove all those junks and cleanse the South from corruption and tribalism.

        I hope I am very clear now?

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        • 27 April 2011 13:02, by mack waweru

          Mr. Truth-Teller,

          As your actions illustrate, I don’t think your likes are qualified to occupy that post at the moment. It is my impression that would happen after 50 years when all Southerners will assess that you are genuinely civilized to value human life and right of others to co-exist with you in harmony. But currently, your chance of that is so bleak given your yesteryear and today’s history.
          If you ignore the advice of H.E John Luk Jok, who else would you heed then?
          If you are given that post, you would still annihilate yourselves over it as it is the case in Unity State now. If your top leaders like Dr. Riek Machar, Dr. Riek Gai, Professor De Chand, Dr. Joseph Monytuil, H. E. Taban Gai + hands full of generals could not agree on matters that priorities to Nuer Community, how would they embrace others in the South? You will never give a space to your son or daughter who will get that top post as somebody put it above.
          The mentality of a hundred years ago should not still dominates you brother; otherwise you are telling us that you are savages as they.
          Digest well what the GoSS Minister had said and be like him.

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      • 28 April 2011 04:01, by Gathoth Gai

        PLEASE READ YOUR MESSAGE BEFORE YOU POSTED TO THE PUBLIC OR YOUR ARTICAL COULD BE CONSIDERED AS BULKY OR BAIS.SO JUST REMINDING YOU BROTHER DINKA BOY GOOD LUCK.

        BUT LET PUT A SIDE THOSE DIFFERENCES AND FOCUS ON OUR NEW NATION ON HOW IT GOING WORK.

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    • 27 April 2011 10:31, by Jurdit Mayen

      @actiongatkuoth
      My friend,your people(NAATH) are NUP lovers??????????????
      Dinkas are PEACE AND UNITY lovers.
      I know the word gatkuoth in nuer language meaning the son of God but that is not true,you are the son of rebellion,stealing,stupid and Nup lovers in South Sudan.
      Shame on NAATH with your vacuum anus.

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  • 27 April 2011 09:52, by Liberator

    Dear: Readers

    For all those who have any doubt about Nuer being Majority of SPLA, should from now shut up. Gen. James Hoth said it before and Now John Luk.


    For the record: I do not agree with John Luk generalization over the current rebellion. as the matter fact I’m not a fan of either two(John Luk or Gen. Hoth). but is point of Nuer killing themselves is well taken.

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    • 27 April 2011 10:04, by Omoni jr

      haha,liberator ,
      so you understood the logic, "dog can fight dog’

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      • 27 April 2011 10:16, by Dinka Dominated SPLA

        I said last time that Cruelty is contagious in uncivilized nuer communities.
        Nuer became militias in the wold shame on you,

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    • 27 April 2011 10:12, by Cibaipiath Junub Sudan

      It is good to point out that issue of Marginalisation. This GOSS if it is misinterpreted as Government of Self Service or taken from the head as Dinka head then the body which occupies largest space or voulume is acknowledged and identified as Nuers.

      The question of Nuer marginalisation is ruled out here by the Minister of Legal Affairs and Constitutional Development. This Minister is one who has disagreed with the Opposition members in the process of the South Sudan Constituional Reviews this year. All what Gen. Peter Gadet Yak campaigned is proved to be baseless and therefore, Gen. Peter Gadet shuold ammend its party manifesto and localised it to his own Nuer Bul ( Mayom County). To promote Mayom as separate tiny country within South Sudan. And hence, Mayom will not look like Gambia in West Africa nor Djibuti in Ethiopia. I thank John Luk for his answer to Nuer rebels.

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    • 27 April 2011 13:12, by mack waweru

      Liberator,

      Illiterate majority in arms are easily prone to err and it is the factor in play now. Those Khartoum proxy-militias became the majority in SPLA when they were incorporated or integrated to accommodate them for the sake of peace. Being a majority doesn’t requires one to cause destruction and mayhem, but safeguard peace and not the opposite.

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  • 27 April 2011 10:05, by amon

    Your Excellency

    Now you have realized that you are the owners of the government and the source of rebellions in the South,however, that doesn’t make Nuer to be considered the best fighters in the South.We (the Southerners)didn’t tell Nuer to fight on our behave,OK.It’s good to tell your brothers to come back and join us so that we can reach our finial destination together.

    Make sure that if you’ve been condemned here on earth by people,you will also be condemned in heaven. Tell your boys to go school and not to join rebellions. Let the people of South Sudan not accuse you (Nuer) as the obstacle for their peace and freedom, if you are addicted to rebellions and killing all those days then this is the right time to repent and join your brothers in Christ for sake of the future of our children.

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  • 27 April 2011 10:26, by lakoda

    John Luk, it look like your backing outside the room,otherewise you better deny that your not the one having those speech or among seven ministers your the useless nuer minister who hand in this mess,how come you seven ministers within GOSS including vice president and chief of staff as you mentioned,can not united the whole nuer community,and letting others defect from your leadership,unless you are betraying your brothers.
    Mr. President please removed those ministers including John luk and others who are creating mess in your leadership and replace them with those who are popular among their tribes who can bring nuer community together.

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    • 27 April 2011 10:50, by Liberator

      lakoda

      Excellence point bro! If Salva Kiir was smart after last year elections, he would have fired all those who are not liked in their respective communities and appointed those who are always liked and do have credibility within their communities.

      But he chose those like John Luk who have no credibility with in their community. After all John Luk was defeated in his district in last year sham election by a well like decorated veteran of Anya Anya II & SPLA Taban Juuc.

      So, I doubt it very much, if Kiir have gut to fire these Ministers since, they are serving him well not their constituents interest. He can risk bringing those popular with their people since they would not served his interest but their constituents.

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      • 27 April 2011 10:57, by Liberator

        ommission:

        He can not risk bringing those popular with their people since they would not served his interest but their constituents.

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  • 27 April 2011 10:30, by Garang

    "The minister appealed to the Nuer community to try to convince their sons and daughters who have rebelled against the government to abandon the rebellion and come back to the system."

    The same appeals should be directed to intellectuals and community leaders in different communities of Southern Sudan to try to convince their sons and daughters, who every now and then organize attacks on other communities to loot cattle and abduct children. Yes, Minister John Luk has put right by advicing his community to encourage peaceful means of resolving differences and adrressnig grievances, whether real or imaginery. Every intellectual, be him a constitutional post holder or a civil servant must, as an individual or in a group, shoulder the responsibility of preaching peace,reconciliation and interethnic coexistenc. Civil society bodies, women groups and Students unions must participate effectively in this matter. I wish every politician of any commuinty in the South would be bold enough as Minister John Luk has been, to stand in front of his or her community to point out negativity that need to be corrected. WE have always been seeing some power seeking leaders and intellectuals addressing their communities inciting them against other ethnic groups. They think by doing so they would gain respect and be elected to the power. We need leaders who clean their eyes before doing the same to others.

    Barvo Minister J.L Jock and thanks to the coward reporter for well done job of reporting. By coward I mean do not hide your name.

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  • 27 April 2011 10:35, by Good Citizen

    the peaceful communities of Greater Equatoria and some non-Dinka/Non-Nuer in Greater upper nile and G.Bahr el Ghazal DONOT NEED ANYONE TO FIGHT FOR THEM! we have our own peaceful ways of solving problems whether those peoblems are private or governmental.the Gun would be the LAST thing for us to consider. So fight your own stupid renegade wars without claiming that you are fighting for ’others’.we know the present system is a Nuer-Dinka government,and equally know that things gonna change soon or later.just go for your ugly stupidities without any claim, OK?
    Good Citizen.

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  • 27 April 2011 10:57, by Mr. Truthteller

    Guys,

    The main difference between Nuer and Dinka in violence is that the Nuer are courageous direct killers in open battles while the Dinka are coward cold blood murderers in dark corners.

    Another difference now is that the Nuer know where they are going and when to reach it while the Dinka do not know where and when they will end.

    I love Ngundeng...

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    • 27 April 2011 11:20, by Liberator

      Mr. Truthteller

      In other words, Dinka are terrorist(Bin laden’s al-qaeda thugs who killed people in cold blood like terrorists of Bin Laden/Al-Qaeda.

      And Nuer who always warn their enemies first before attacking them to avoid the label of cold blood murders like the Americans.

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      • 27 April 2011 12:31, by Malith Rual

        The elder further emphasized on the consequences of war against development, saying the senior government officials from the Nuer community should support peaceful dialogue with the rebels to end the confrontations.
        Is that war for Nuer only? or rather should it be possible for Nuer officers to bring peace in the Region? Nuer are majority in SPLA currently and it is b/c of their evil acts where many of militias were integrated to SPLA with thousands of ranks that is how they came to high commands everywhere and this is what caused clashes with Tanginya a week ago b/c he wanted to bring doom commanders into SPLA again like what Matip did. let me tell you you are luck for John Garang to have died you were going to go to hell with your militias every day, Late Garang was not ready for any fuckin militia.
        But so long you are continuing with this habits you face the contingency nearest to come.

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      • 6 December 2012 18:52, by Ruach

        Like the way they killed Isaiah Abraham!

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    • 27 April 2011 12:13, by Wunne dohor

      Who are you to know the enthic differences since you don’t look beyond your noses Mr. Liberator and Mr. truthteller. Just baseless fighting is not the solution. Why did 91 rebellion failed to acheive the claimed objectives if there were any. Go for developments al project to benefit your people if you have intellectual minds if not the ones infested by fighting virus. Again I repeat my dear invest and leave out dinka.

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    • 27 April 2011 13:09, by Pandit

      Mr. Collaborator and Falseteller.

      Another difference between Dinka and Nuer
      Naath are brainless, they lack of capacity and this always make them jump into conclusion like insects without understanding what right and what wrong.
      Dinkas think to identify right and wrong before they react.

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    • 27 April 2011 13:20, by Toney Toney Matot

      Mr Truthliar,
      you better think twice of what will happen in the coming days. because it was predicted by nguendeng that one of south sudan tribes will be eliminated due to war wage within south sudan.i really come to believe should we not stop rebellion,prediction of nguendeng is not far to be true.we must appreciate minister Jon luk Jok for discouraging people not to join rengades for they are fighting a selfish war of personal interest. as an intellectual from greator upper Nile i urge all citizen to listen to the Minister message.they shoould not hear your nonsence of praising illitrates. you will never gain anything even if you support them with your entire family still they will be defeated.mark my words and your days are numbered.

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    • 27 April 2011 13:22, by Murle Intellectual

      Mr Truthteller, you are absolutely correct. Nuer people are brave, they don’t kill others in secret by using SPLA assets such as activities, weapons, or forces to eliminate other tribes like Dinka are doing now

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  • 27 April 2011 12:17, by Alfredo christiani

    Dear Truth teller or liar teller
    It’s impossible to get position of presidency whether by militarily or politically. Because you’re visionless peoples, now you‘re killing yourselves on both side, is it logic? More over the Educated Nuer is more useless than cattle keeper
    Leadership of ROSS will be under control of Dinkas and Equatoria forever and ever maybe Nuer will come after 100 years to lead the south. Dogs that will finish themselves for no reasons

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  • 27 April 2011 12:30, by Adam

    It is absolutely wrong Mr. Minister. Those who (rebel) have never claimed that they are fighting for tribal or ethnic ends.

    They are fighting tyrant and corrupted SPLA/M. SSLA is to liberate the South from unjust, stealing, dictatorship and human right violations. They are fighting for freedom, democracy, development and equality.

    Wrong Mr. John Luk Jok.

    Corrupt GOSS must go irrespective of their tribal lines. Corruption has no tribe. Corruption has persons of all tribes. All of them have to go. Dinka, Nuer, Shiluk, equatorians or whatever. All DEVILs, incompetents and thieves of all tribes have to go.

    Long Live UNITED Southern Sudan

    Down with SPLA/M

    Adam Milawaki – Mayendit
    Southern Sudan

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    • 27 April 2011 13:33, by Sobat

      Hi John,

      I think you are wrong because the Nuer community can’t allowed themselves to be mistreated by Dinka because - few selfish Nuer like Luk Jock, Riek Machar, Kok Ruei, Gabriel Changson, James Oth, and the rest are happy with powerless positions in the government.

      I hope you John Luk still remember your meeting with Nuer parliamentary caucus recently where all of you were told by Nuer MPs that you don’t seem concern about keys positions that are denied to Nuer like minister of finance [responsible for budget in the country], minister of Human resource[concern with employment in the country], minster of regional cooperation[responsible for the deployment of people to foreign missions], and one of the Nuer MPs told you that he will mobilized Nuer officers in SPLA general headquarters to fight against Dinka domination and marginalization to Nuer. and he told you that you are defending your positions in Kiir government. he told you once Nuer and Dinka war begin, you the current Nuer ministers and those holding big positions will not be spared. the Nuer will consider you as traitors.

      So just dream and you will soon be taught a lesson with your Dinka master in Juba. If that noise is because of the few cash you got from constitution review exercise, just shut up and drink your whiskey as you wait to be slaughtered by the Nuer worriers.

      Don’t forget that we know few sections of Nuer who are know to betrayal the cause of Nuer. we know this from Gatkuoth Gual when he refuse to take power and prefer Abel Alier. During Gai Tut, he refuse to lead as Garang asked him to lead the SPLM/A but prefer Kuot Atem who was a Dinka. Now its your turn to betray Nuer again all the way from Akobo.

      shame on you.

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      • 27 April 2011 14:07, by Liberator

        Sobat

        Well, said! I have been saying the following ever since the end of the referendum and after Fangak massacre/Malakal incidents that all the officials serving especially from central Nuer who are serving Jonglei thug Governor(Kuol Manyang) and in Juba(Kiir) should have resigned and leave the Dinka Government alone. those Dinka Governments of states and national level would have collapsed with in minutes of their resignations.

        This would send a signal to the world especially the United States, that it’s purely tribal government. United States could have been forced to act on Kiir and be made to formed a broad based government or forced out of power.

        But Nuer were betrayed not by their devil cousin(The Dinka) but by their own. but this time is different. any body serving the Dinka Government will be considered as traitor!

        I called upon all the Ministers including the Vice-president Riek Machar to resign before it’s too late!
        Let’s stand as clear alternative to people aspirations.
        I’m also warning all the officers in the SPLA who are sons of Nuer not be used to fight each others. your brothers stand with you on irrespective of the side you on.

        D O N O T TEMPER WITH PEOPLE REVOLUTION AND ALSO DO NOT TRUST ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THESE ’’SNAKES & COCOARACHES"

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      • 27 April 2011 19:37, by Nhomlawda

        Sobat,
        If those Nuer politicians and military leaders you have mentioned could have taken the decision you desire, South Sudan cause would have failed. For example, when Riek Machar formed his Nuer run SPLA Nasir faction, it did not survive for six months although it had gotten huge SPLA military assets in the region of Upper Nile. Under Riek Machar leadership, all illiterate Nuer tribal fighters such Gatwech Dual and Wurnyang promoted themselves to ‘generals’ and up to today every Nuer wants to be a general because of Riek Machar’s SPLA Nasir faction influence.
        Should the Nuer learned that president is powerful than a general than all of them will fight to become president. The president position will be a problem again like the general title with the Nuer.
        In conclusion, Nuers do not respect authority and all those Nuer leaders who refused to take power from Dinkas were wise then you think. They took a good decision and that is why we had succeeded in liberating ourselves from Arabs.
        Nuer will only be allowed to aspire to lead South Sudan after 100 years when we expect them to have developed civility and respect for authority.

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  • 27 April 2011 12:55, by Mapuor

    Very good guys.Lets be reasoable.Baseless tribal accusations will not take us anywhere.Its true that there is nepotism in the South,but this nepotism is not being practiced by Dinkas alone.If you go to some ministries in Juba you will hardly get a single Dinka there.Some ministeries are virtually dominated by Nuers.The only solution to this is to form states according to language groups as follows:
    1.Padang West(Abeie,Twic,Alor & Pariang)
    2.Padang East(Pigi,Adong,Malut & Renk)
    3.Shiluk State(Ger & Luak)
    4.Nuer West state(Bentiu,Mayom & Leer)
    5.Nuer east state(Fangak,Ayod,Waad & Akobo)
    6.Eastern Upper Nile State(Nasir,Maywut,Longachok,Buldit & Maban)
    7.Jonglei State(Bor South,Twic east,Bor ,Pibor & Pochalla)
    8.Northern Bhar El Gazal
    9.Westen Bhar El Gazal
    10.Warrap State
    11.Jur River state(Jurchol & Marialbai Dinkas)
    12.Lakes State
    13.Amadi State(Moro,Wira,modo & Belli east)
    14.Zande State
    15.Esatern Equatoria State
    16.Central Equatoria State.
    With the above mentioned states contributing 30% of their revenues to the Federal Government that will be in charge only for Defence & international relations.Haaa what a nice thing.God help us form into the above states.

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    • 27 April 2011 15:08, by unity state boy

      The stupid Dinka are playing with the food that was brough by great south master Nuer,naath.All dogs are agains nuer now ,event your dead it do,t have record for the south sudan ,some people talk about peace in Kenya but they d,nt know who brough peace in s sudan ,If there is no Riak machar there will be no peace in sudan let me tell you today.the international people they only know Dr machar in s sudan.

      Thank by Gatbentiu

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    • 27 April 2011 15:11, by Malith Rual

      Truthteller!

      Nuer will never lead as president i tell you unless they avoid their barbaric acts, looks at the followings and these are what i witness from Nuer personally.
      1. When i was in Uganda sitting for my S4 certificate, about six guys came from unity and want to join primary school but once they got us going away from senior four they said we wanted to join the same high school without any knowledge thinking that they have money looks your people.
      2. When people entered in Juba in 2005/6 i got your men at Dr Riek Compound nine(9) of them having Thuraya phone when i asked them why should you guys decided to have this phone at your level b/c they guys were really uncultured i don’t have a word which can fit in their description, looks what they said; they told me this is to make us modern nikas haha.
      3. Again i went to Western Bharel ghazal and i found your guys getting the monthly salary, that day the whole of thirty (30) people went to Jou market in Wau and bought Radio i e Masijil and they put all Gordon Kong music and move around Wau in the evening every one was laughing of what is going on. Can you see all these yeah son of bitch?
      NB there is one common phenomenon with Nuer b/c they have 0% of leadership style if any one come and stay with Dinka and go back later to their home land that man or woman will be a leader where he/she is but it didn’t happen to Dinka man/woman to stay with Nuer then do something good in his commuinty b/c he/she learn nothing from Nuer apart from doubt and ignorance.
      How can you said you guys need the post of president?

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    • 27 April 2011 16:40, by Toney Toney Matot

      Murle illitrate,
      jalaba has bought you son of a bitch.how could you not respect the minister who is telling illitrate like you the truth.please wash your mouth out of him.you are just a little idiot who do not know anything but instigate war which he does not know the end of it.please shut your fucking mouth up.

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  • 27 April 2011 14:41, by Ruru

    Attention Nuer!!!!!

    Here is the point of my view, what I have noticed from my cousin Dinka is that they are die heart of leadership and wanting to be rich with in one minute or less than that. To them, if we are calling them boss Benydit) and leaving them looting public funds they will never talk any thing but to us (Nuer) we are just say don’t miss use public money.

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    • 27 April 2011 15:19, by Wunne dohor

      Naath! Is that the way you want to stop those who are stealing money from public? It is ironical think twice, My big Surprise is that Nuer do not shy- they are like dogs that vomit go back and lick the vomit again. What a messing tribe. Some body talk of food lovers what other thing if not food that those of Tanginyang and his likes want. You are too greedy-seven ministers, vice president and president of nyagateen and James Hoth truely the southerner, the uncheckable and yet not contented.

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    • 27 April 2011 15:23, by Malith Rual

      Hahaha am laughing @ the fool up there how can Nuer talk of good management while they don’t think for tomorrow? i have been with nuer good number of years but no man in Nuer tribe who can say good word apart from looting unless women.
      To he who who is saying useless word up there, Don’t you know that Riek is known b/c he is criminal wanted by ICC? not b/c of what every he has been doing.
      Am telling you frank, DR Riek was not good at the beginning till 2005 from 2006 he started to work as a true southerner and this is where we can give him credited but before Gadbentiu no way man he was a big fool in the yard
      Now you fucked Nuer saw him he is doing well that is why you started the rebellion of no reason to spoil him again up to you doom community.

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      • 27 April 2011 17:35, by Tiger black

        Nuer should not talks about marginalization in south sudan at this time.they are the cause of tribalism and nepotism confusion all the militiamen from Nuer.Even thought other communities give all Nuer people they whole Government they will still killing each others,the reason for that is simple want you see illiteracy like MR: Gadet who claim is fighting corruption and tribalism in the south, he was not even no they value of human life. if he was wise enough he could even sit down and negotiate with the government in the south sudan.but because he was a Nuer who want to be a president of the south sudan is a big shame for him and the supporters of this blind man.if BAshir accepted the peace who is Gedet or NUer as whole.They Government in the south sudan is not represented all tribes in living in the south sudan but they understand,no communities who can rebell and fighting against his own people they know the suffering of the people durning the war time.Nuer has rihgt to kills southerners because they were with Arab supporter against the south, but time has come!!!!!!!!!! we love our own motherland south sudan we seen who is who.

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  • 27 April 2011 17:47, by Abraham Majur Lam

    Thanks Hon. Minister for your courageous statement.
    God bless you and I pray that more people should come out and talk to their communities instead of aportion blame and pointing fingers at one tribe and the other. For sure it is not Nuer Community problem but the interest of some opportunists and stooge personalities.

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    • 27 April 2011 18:26, by JOINET

      hey Luk Jok.
      i Know you by heart that you will on use nuer to try to get money from Kiir and other Dinka general ., as long nuer knows you very well for your greediness and selfish.
      you are really wrong on that .
      I have two question for you dog.
      who started the first rebellion within souther soudan goverment?. was it not two Dinka Generals?. and this generals were and right to the movement that they do not like corruptioin in Goss and tribalism in Country.
      See how selfish you are you Luk and Kirr. Why are you worry of intergreated other milatiies who come back from Northern Sudan?. is that not clear omen of fear that those who do not like corruption are coming in to see your weakness and and your deals.
      please, let some body it his money and keep quiet and not to open his/her fucken mouth against nuer.

      see , me in Beijing Hotel
      i have Red whisky and wine for Kir and Luk.

      thank , Nuer Chief.

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  • 27 April 2011 18:21, by Kim Deng

    THE NUER LEGACY:

    1800s- Nuer occupation began/erupted and it has been out of control until then. Many Jurs (Jaang, Bar, Chai...) were disloged from their lands and many others were assimilated into Nuer community and/or sold to slavery.

    1900s- The Nuer Warriors waged armed resistance against colonial rules; killed Lt. Col. Bacon and the Governor of Bahl el Ghazal plus many soldiers from RF.

    1951- Both Diu, a Nuer formed South Sudan Party ever. Claimed that South Sudan must be a country of it own by all mean necessary.

    1975- Revolts by South Sudanese soldiers led by Vincent Kuany Latjor, a Nuer by tribe protested their transfer to the North, in violation of Addis Ababa Agreement.

    1983- SPLM/A formation with the mutineers and Any Anya II. Both the Anya Nya II and SPLM/A was mainly dominated by Nuer tribe from its first 2 years.

    1991- Dr. Riek Machar Teny-Dhurgon, a Nuer by tribe corrected Mr. Marxist-Leninst Garang’s "New Sudan," vision and not only beacuse Garang was running the movement like his own property, but also lack of clear objsectives, principles and human rights for/in the movement.

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  • 27 April 2011 18:32, by unityfirst1

    I like the way you have addressed the Nuer community Mr.John Jok!please tell them the truth they might understand your honesty,tell them frankly because you’re from their community.some of them might listen and changed their evil hateful way toward the Dinka.

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    • 27 April 2011 19:41, by Nhomlawda

      Sobat,
      If those Nuer politicians and military leaders you have mentioned could have taken the decision you desire, South Sudan cause would have failed. For example, when Riek Machar formed his Nuer run SPLA Nasir faction, it did not survive for six months although it had gotten huge SPLA military assets in the region of Upper Nile. Under Riek Machar leadership, all illiterate Nuer tribal fighters such Gatwech Dual and Wurnyang promoted themselves to ‘generals’ and up to today every Nuer wants to be a general because of Riek Machar’s SPLA Nasir faction influence.
      Should the Nuer learned that president is powerful than a general than all of them will fight to become president. The president position will be a problem again like the general title with the Nuer.
      In conclusion, Nuers do not respect authority and all those Nuer leaders who refused to take power from Dinkas were wise then you think. They took a good decision and that is why we had succeeded in liberating ourselves from Arabs.
      Nuer will only be allowed to aspire to lead South Sudan after 100 years when we expect them to have developed civility and respect for authority.

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      • 27 April 2011 22:13, by unity state boy

        Dear Luk jok
        Are you beged the money,or are you real talking?
        Let me as you are Nuer real?
        Don,t put your self in the fire because of the money,money there is no endd they are just paper who make by humanbeing don,,t express your voice with the paper of kir.

        Naathwayeee/Nuereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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  • 27 April 2011 23:11, by Madior

    Folks,
    I am tired of hearing people saying about so called "self-determination" of Riek Machar in 1991. Believe it or not, he would have sold that agreement back to Khartuom if that happened. Khartuom government signed CPA, and hoping to buy it back from the SPLM. However, stop saying that self-determnation of 1991 has led to current CPA, it was uprising about killings civilians in which charges would be file in less than year after independence. ICC will be looking for war criminals after independence, your Uncle DR.Riek Machar is on the top of the lists. He would likely be charges with crime against humanity. Keep running your mouth greedy people, John Luk has explained to you about going on in the Juba government. Dinka has nothing to do with your rebellion, or dominating the GOSS. Stop killings your own people and put back your children to school, otherwise you would be remain dumb for the rest your life.

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  • 28 April 2011 00:30, by Chol Mading

    I think this is one of the reasons that Nuers disowned his Excellency John Luke long time ago. When Dinka rebelled against GOSS (George Athor), I never read any statement like this from any Dinka minister or official. And Dinka community in general never blamed itself like what I’m reading. I’m glad that I’m from Mighty Dinka tribe who would rule for years to come. Nuers are weak in mind and can destroy themselves pretty easy. This is good testimony period.

    In the long run people like John Luke would not have room in our new reform party (SPLM). SPLM would not accept people who have low opinion from their own community. I don’t blame those nuers who are throwing his Excellency Luke under the bus for being so blind about the corruption taking place under watchful eyes of President Kiir and V.P Riek. John Luke is so loyal to Pres. Kiir sometimes he tends to forget where he came from.

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  • 28 April 2011 01:59, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

    Hey, where is nationalism if it is all about Dinka and Nuer?
    Look South Sudan is the land Zande, Murle, Kachipo, Yulu, Bai, Makaraka, Mundu, Bari etc. call home. One wonders what these so called leaders of South Sudan are? Are tribal leaders or the leaders of the whole South Sudan? God save South Sudan!!

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  • 28 April 2011 06:59, by AUGUSTINO DENG

    Dear Minister John Luk Jok,

    Thanks you so much for your advice to Nuer Community. In fact, your point of view is very convincing to everybody except those of Nuer people who always divert when people are in the right pass. It is true that most of the people whom arabs in the North arm always are Nuer. This is absolutely true. I don’t how Nuer people should be convinced in order to understand.

    SPLM/SPLA is not for Dinka like the way Nuer misquoted it all the time. SPLM/SPLA is for anyone who have seen a bad sense from Arabs. The one great big mistake which God have ever done is that, he created Nuer with the lack of reasoning capacity and a wicked heart. Now, those who are enjoying the SPLM/SPLA are Nuer people, while Nuer people were the people who rebel from the SPLM/SPLA.

    I will never stop accusing Nuer until the reform themselves.

    By Augustino Deng. Jech la mer from Tharpam.

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    • 28 April 2011 09:09, by Sobat

      I think you didn’t get it right. John didn’t said Nuer are the one armed by Arabs but he was just saying since he is eating Salva Kiir left over, and him being a Nuer he see no reason why Nuer should fight and Dinka are not throwing away the left over but he is enjoying it. That is his own opinion.

      But let me tell you, whether you like it or not, no tribe will not say they were not armed or given guns by Arab in the north, including Dinka. So your excuse that Nuer were armed is a lie and that is the reason we will not reconcile because you Dinka don’t respect any Nuer including James Oth who have been loyal to his master Garang for long, you still call him Nyagat.

      If you want us to have peace in South Sudan let us forget the past and move on otherwise, the next war between Dinka will be deadly because no body like Dinka in South Sudan currently. you will either be refugees in Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia or accept Nuer as human being like you.

      Look at yourself, you are not friend to Equatorians, your neighbors in Barh el - ghazal even with communities in nieghboring countries you can’t get along with them. what kind of people are you. wait the Equatorians are crossing their hands when will Nuer kick you ass so that they can start killing you and take back their land you grabbed by forces.

      If you Dinka are not useless people, where on earth human being would blame God for creating another human being like them. But the Dinka. This mean even God is not good in the eye of Dinka because God created Nuer. Shame on you.

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  • 28 April 2011 07:11, by Odingo

    To H. E Uncle John Luke
    Seven Ministers including you and Vice President are not enough for Nuer.

    We need more than that such as Minister of Finance, Secretary of Defense which should be given LT. General Peter Gatdet.
    We need to be incharge of all South Suan Army Divisions since we are majority in South Sudan Army. Nuer want to run the GOSS to stop corruption, nepotism, tribalism and public fund that is being stolen alway by Dinka to develop their hometown. LT. General Peter Gatdet is fighting to stop corruption being practicing by Dinka.

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  • 28 April 2011 07:17, by Mr. Truthteller

    The main difference between Nuer and Dinka in violence is that the Nuer are courageous direct killers in open field battles while the Dinka are coward cold blood murderers in dark corners. That is why the Nuer dominate the SPLA foot soldiers and also the commanding officers in the field while the coward Dinka officers are all at Bilpam GHQrs in Juba in the comfort zone stealing salaries of field soldiers.

    I love the fact that the few Dinka soldiers in the field are always tired everywhere in the South saluting every morning the Nuer officers in the field.

    Guys, another truthtelling, even the presidential guards there in Juba are being commanded by a Nuer Brigadier General Yien. Check it out. The presidential guards including the bodyguards of Salva Kiir, Riek Machar and Paulino Matip. They are under the command of a Nuer officer.

    Shame on the born to lie Dinka officials on SSTV who try to fool the 2% TV viewers in South Sudan with their white lies. Now it is very clear that the Nuer have been the majority in the SPLA since its formation in 1983. James Hoth Mai last month confirmed that 90% of deployments in the ten states of South Sudan.

    Another difference between Nuer and Dinka is that the Nuer know where they are going and when to reach it, while the Dinka do not know when and where to end.

    I love Ngundeng!

    Also the Dinka are selfish and while the Nuer are generous feeding the whole South with their oil money from the Nuer states.

    In federal system, the Nuer will emerge the super power tribe because their states are the richest, and their people are militarily strong, then their culture is also the richest with very high quality of wisdom.

    I love Ngundeng.

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    • 28 April 2011 07:34, by AUGUSTINO DENG

      "Dog always eat human feces" and "what left over." The present of Dinka today in the Southern Sudan is the light to all others communities. Without Dinka, I hope life for other people in Sudan will be terrible. Many people rebel, however, they still come back and succumbed themselves in hand of the SPLM/SPLA. The mission for Dinka as a whole is to fight and thwart any external disaster coming along to deteriorate the life of his citizens. That is the goal of Dinka. They are not food hunters like the other tribe I know myself. How can one demand more food without knowing how to get it? I have never seen in my life where a master can be a useless one.

      Dinka power.. Dinka power.. Dinka power.......
      Let the vultures enjoy the sweat of Dinka.

      By Augustino Deng. Jech la mer from Tharpam.

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    • 28 April 2011 08:42, by unityfirst1

      Mr.liar! that’s a lie,who told you that Nuer owned two oil states,name them specifically.stop the lie and behave yourself like a grown up man.let me point this thing out for you along with those who have deaf ears to listen!south sudan will never gonna fit us if you keep commercialize your dirty tactic and stupid braveness,Nuers are 90% in the SPLA so what!what have you done,any creditials to show to the South Sudan citizens,you’re still such a piece of shit.why don’t you people think twice and put some estimation for the outcome interm if you want to win the tribal war.bravers doesn’t pretended to brags about the war.Dinkas were been your Bosses since the SPLA started and matter of fact we are going to be your Boss like it or not,i know Nuer doesn’t know how to fight at night and when they’re hungry.prove yourself openly and still you won’t overpowered (Monydu aka monyde jaang in all)stop crying like a woman who always cry "i will leave this man today because he always beat me,but the next day she can be seen sweeping the front yard,she never leave that man" that’s the samething with you people,you don’t feel shameful to yourself.you never cry about the Arabs,but you do cry about the Dinka domination frequently and no determination for the action taker you have ever decided either.shame on you!

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      • 28 April 2011 09:34, by LongTweng

        Marginalization would have fitted well if you the new Nation was already born and declared by the world as a nation but we are not there yet and the most greedy folks with blink brain come up with such nonsense.
        We could take up a peaceful protest if there is such things and marginalization and remove the devil with such idea after July 9th but I don’t see that you can define it yet. just some fool running around with media rumors and trying to confuse the world with their dead brian theory.
        Give me a break!

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    • 28 April 2011 09:57, by Rommel

      Mr. "Truthteller".

      You’re quite the comedian:

      I don’t think there’s ever been an individual that has so foolishly chosen a pseudonym so diametrically opposed to his sentiments, his intentions and the pathetic actions that follow.

      You laughably claim that the Dinka are cowards, who engage in combat in the dark. Let’s evaluate this for a moment:

      Did the Dinka fight for Khartoum, for more than two decades? Did we recieve supplies & logistics from Khartoum? Did we operate in tandem with their militias in the oil-fields? Were we paid by them? The answer is NO! That execrable honour belongs to you.

      The enemy faced us in the front, they hired you in the back. Men who recieve weapons, ammunition & supplies from the enemy, and rely on that stream... are treacherous SLAVES!

      The Nuer were the majority in the SPLA for a mere year or two. You can have this, you pathetic children. Bravo. The Dinka [especially Bahr el ghazel] have been the majority ever since; that’s almost 20 years. You can have the one year, we’ll take the twenty (20) years of our unmatched service, it’s ours!

      We fought Khartoum virtually without you [post 1991] – with James Hoth Mai and his small handful of men being the only exception from a community that was for the most part determined to capriciously provide its services to their masters in Khartoum.

      We resisted Khartoum (like no other) into a stalemmate - culminating in a peace we all now enjoy... one in which you, the spawn of the post-combat returnees are able to express and vent your infantile, atavistic hatred towards the very same people that have contributed inconceivably more martyrs, more blood and more troops than any other community in war time.

      Your numbers have only increased in the SPLA [post combat]... after all the fighting was done, after precious [Dinka blood] was expended to recapture the vast majority of our land from your masters.

      Peace time numbers mean NOTHING, you fools! War time numbers, perseverence, heroism and valor mean EVERYTHING! You jump from one outragious [self-created] statistic to another, based entirely on a whim, an emotion; no data, no study, no sources, no quotes - NOTHING. You use statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... For support rather than illumination.

      We fought an enemy infinitely smarter than you, infinitely better resourced, far more organized, more numerous, coherently structured, strategically apt; an enemy that brought to the theatre of war a palette of advanced and horrifically destructive weaponry.

      My Dinka brothers:

      These people have been in the armed services of Khartoum for decades, they return after all the fighting, after the anguish and self-sacrifice — and now they dare call us slaves and cowards.

      Let them speak, let them slander to their traitorous hearts content... but relish in the fact that this is your victory, you made this possible; in 1991, when the SPLA was pushed to the borders after having lost territory to the joint assault of boastful slaves and their masters in Khartoum... you held on and recaptured the vast majority of our homeland and negotiated this peace from a position of relative strength.

      While others have provided mere streams of blood sacrifice... you have provided oceans of blood - eclipsing the contributions of others, many, many times; we provided more soldiers to the movement than all the Southern tribes, combined.

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      • 29 April 2011 15:37, by BO$$ PLAYA

        To Rommel,

        Well done!!! Well articulated too. Hats off playa. However Mr Trutheteller aka Bullshit teller is of less stature compare to the rest of beautiful people of South Sudan.

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