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More than 3,000 killed in South Sudan ethnic violence, says Pibor official

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By Ngor Arol Garang

January 6, 2012 (JUBA) - At least 3,141 people, mostly innocent civilians predominantly women and children have died in a week-long tribal clash, involving two neighbouring rival ethnic communities of Lou and Murle in South Sudan’s Jonglei State, according to unconfirmed reports.

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A Murle woman with two of her children on her back returns to Pibor after fleeing the town. Pibor County, Jonglei, South Sudan. Jan. 6, 2012 (ST)

Over 1,000 children are also reported to been killed, gone missing or feared to have been abducted, while tens of thousands of herds of cattle are claimed to have been stolen, a local official said on Friday.

The fighting erupted last week after the United Nations reported that heavily armed Lou Nuer youth were moving toward Murle territories, cutting through the bush into Pibor town. In the last seven months of 2011 over 1,000 people died in cattle raids and revenge attacks between the two groups.

Eyewitnesses have told Sudan Tribune that armed Lou Nuer men hunted down Murle civilians who ran to the bush to escape the assault on Pibor town and other areas.

The Commissioner of Pibor County told reporters who visited the area on Friday that the assailants committed "a real massacre".

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Displaced Murle citizens return to Pibor town after the Luo Nuer offensive. Pibor County, Jonglei, South Sudan. Jan. 6, 2012 (ST)

"As you can see yourselves, there is nothing left apart from my office and that of the United Nations. Everything is destroyed because it was mass killings. Indeed it was a real massacre," Joshua Konyi, a Pibor County commissioner, told journalists in Pibor town.

Konyi believes that a lot of people have been killed although they have not yet finished collecting and counting dead bodies.

"We are still receiving more bodies from different places, but we have now counted 2,182 women and children and 959 men killed.

"1,293 children mostly those between five to twelve years are missing. We do not have information of their whereabouts. We think they are abducted because until this moment we have families without children," he said.

He also indicated that 375,186 cows in three camps have been stolen.

"The whole thing is actually a genocide", the commissioner said.

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Murle displaced people sit under a tree guarded by the SPLA in Pibor County, Jonglei, South Sudan. Jan. 6, 2012 (ST)

Konyi said police and South Sudanese army (SPLA), which were in the area at the time of attack could not fight back because they were overwhelmed by the 6,000-strong group of armed Luo-Nuer civilians. The government sent thousands of extra troops to the area to try and stop the fighting.

"The number of armed youth which launched [the] attack on this area was much bigger than the initial SPLA forces we had. What were here were just two companies, so they decided to only provide protection to civilians who managed to run to the barracks."

The UN and SPLA have yet to give their own figures for the number killed or confirm the claims of the Pibor county authorities.

If confirmed, the killings would be the worst outbreak of ethnic violence in South Sudan since it became an independent state in July 2011.

South Sudanese army spokesperson Philip Aguer told Sudan Tribune that he could not comment on the figures by the county authorities because he was still awaiting reports from forces on the ground but said he believes a lot of people may have died.

"Of course many people may have died. It is sad and regrettable that the SPLA could not contain it," Aguer said adding that, "this was not the first time incident and it will not be the last".

"I think you know that last year Lou Nuer attacked several Murle villages stole cattle and a lot of people. The Murle responded by attacking several villages in Lou Nuer territories too, stealing cows and killed many people. So this looks like it becomes a practice but it has never reached to this level [before]," Aguer said.

Most of South Sudan’s military are stationed at the tense border with north Sudan, leaving less soldiers available to deal with internal conflict.

The United Nations also believe a lot of people may have been killed. However the international body believes its early warnings advising civilians to flee the area had saved many lives.

“Yes we are aware of the damage but it is difficult to confirm anything at this stage. We are still gathering information from our offices in Jonglei, specifically on the ground in Pibor”, the spokesperson of the United Nations Mission in South Sudan (UNMISS) told journalists on Friday.

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A UN file photo shows victims of inter-tribal violence receive treatment at a hospital in Akobo, Jonglei South Sudan. (photo UN)

Jonglei’s Governor Kuol Manyang also told the media on Friday at Juba International Airport that the security situation in the state was returning to normal as the Lou Nuer youth had begun to withdraw from the area and return to their homes.

"The Lou Nuer youth have responded to the order by the government to withdraw, and they have started leaving Murle areas. Pibor town is now calm."

“The only problem now is food. Those who fled the conflict," said Governor Manyang, referring to Murle, "have started returning to their villages. So they need shelter. This is where we need humanitarian organisation[s] to provide assistance to the affected families."

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Data on Jonglei clashes provided by Pibor County commissioner clashes on Jan 6. 2012 (ST)
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  • 7 January 2012 07:17, by George Bol

    3141 Murle killed. This is a real genocide in the watch of SPLM/Goss. The GOSS must return children, women abducted and cows stolen by Nuer to Murle. If GOSS failed to do that then the South Sudan is not agovernment.

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    • 7 January 2012 07:51, by Cobra Bior

      @ George Bol. what are you smoking on? you got to be someone living out of junglei states, or you wont to be talking like that. Fool do you know how many lives and livestock murlei stole or kill in junglei as whole? watch your mouth or you got to be thier likes. talking about burn down, these motherfucker dont even live at home but bushes looking for some thing to steal or looted and shit.

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    • 7 January 2012 08:38, by The Commissioner

      This is a time for mourning, eventhough personally I don’t cry like a woman. It time for action. From now on, mournings in turns cycles will continue non-stop. Now it is time to go and free our captives and recover our cattle wherever they are. But this time, we must not leave the fighting to the villagers alone. We the government officials and the educated must begin to put the security of Murle above personal greed and hunger for power or position or money or fame, and let us begin to protect our respect and dignity. Those government officials who organised and armed those Nuer and Dinka murderers are having two arms and two legs as we do. Even if they have got tails it doesn’t matter. Tails belong to animals. Now it is time for action. Our children and cattle are in the wrong hands, the evil has just happened to us, what are we waiting for. KALAKAZ

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      • 7 January 2012 09:18, by Rommel

        The Commissioner:

        The Dinka should not have involved themselves in this disgusting operation, despite whatever qualms, disputes or grievances they may hold against the Murle. The Dinka community in Jonglei did not invest a great deal into this operation; the impromptu provision of a measly 900 fighters is a testament to that.

        I offer you my most heartfelt condolence, empathy... and apology.

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        • 7 January 2012 10:05, by The Commissioner

          Thank you Rommel. That shows there are still few South Sudanese with high esteem and good innocent human feelings towards fellow humans. I remember when we were in Khartoum as students, we used to support each other and take risks to defend each other as brothers, Murle Dinka Shilluk Nuer etc, when outnumbered by jalaba. That same spirit should be encouraged

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          • 7 January 2012 12:29, by Rommel

            The Commissioner:

            Thank you for your kind words, brother. You’re absolutely right — we should not be butchering each other and should instead develop some kind of fraternity among ourselves. Khartoum at this moment occupies large swathes of our territory... and it is this enemy we should be preparing for.

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            • 7 January 2012 12:39, by Rommel

              Like I have said before:

              We descend from one seed, sojourned in the same womb - and like a pride, we must roar as one, march as one, resist with one body, retaliate with one sharp, righteous blade - and descend upon our adversaries like a thunderbolt!!

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              • 7 January 2012 13:00, by Rommel

                Our armed forces apparently number no less than 150, 000, which leaves me all the more confused. Why on earth have we not stationed at least 50, 000 men in the most volatile regions? We should station 30, 000 well furnished members of our armed forces on the borders between the Lou-Nuer and the Murle.

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            • 7 January 2012 18:14, by Ahmed Chol

              The number of people killed and the number of cattle looted is still less than all the people killed and the cattle looted by the Murle over many years. Murle have to return 180 Nuer children before anybody talks of anything being return.

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      • 7 January 2012 09:44, by athor deng

        Commissionaire... Words will not be able to ever express how sorry I am for what happened to your community ..Your are not the only person crying, the whole South Sudanese are crying except Dinka Bor, Nuer Lou and Anyuak...Splam should be blame for this..You and your family are in my prayers...

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        • 7 January 2012 10:14, by The Commissioner

          Athor Deng, Thank you too. And I forgot to mention my condolence too to those in Duk as we have just heard news coming, and I appeal to fellow Murle that let us not target innocent people nor their vulnerable while allowing the real culprits to escape with 370,000 cows and 2000 children and women abductees.

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        • 7 January 2012 12:08, by jubaone

          What we are doing upon ourselves has even not been done to us by the jalaba. This is terrible for the entire South Sudan. Those who ridiculed us are now saying: these Junubin are just ungovernable. What next??

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      • 7 January 2012 16:37, by Makeethy

        @Commisioner,
        In the past, America warned Russia that any single step (by Russians) to Alaska is one atomic bomb. Now, I have to repeat it to you. Any single step by Murle men to attack Nuer is death to all of you.Just keep away and peace will provail. Nobody enjoys the suffering of the civilians but we are sick and tired of murle attacking us.

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    • 7 January 2012 15:22, by Legacy Elites

      I personally want ask three people in the RSS top leadership. President Salva Kiir(Dinka, anti-Murle) Dr.Riek Machar(VP. Nuer, anti-Murle) Gov.Kuol Manyang(Dinka Bor, he personally killed many Murle and is the chief mastermind of this genocide in Pibor) I am asking them this one question; now that you have achieved your objective of committing genocide using Nuer and Dinka militias, whitearmy, abducting 2000 Murle children, stealing 300,000 Murle cows and murdering over 3000 women and children and few men in cold blood, using LRA methods. Are you now satisfied with Murle innocent blood and the looting?

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      • 8 January 2012 07:47, by Acamtelaau

        Legency, your comments maybe inappropriated to some leaders I thought if not. Your question should go directly to Governor Manyang,Dr.Riek and your leader Konyi you did mentioned when you asked your question.Because they are from Jonglei and many other responsible leaders. This problem can be solve very easy if we have good leader who can step up and deploy police in all Jonglei borders.

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        • 8 January 2012 12:20, by Legacy Elites

          Acamtelaau, Those fake leaders you have mentioned are only interested in their positions and salary. Many massacres happened before to the same Murle innocent civilians, but those leaders didn’t use their power to save the people, instead they escaped and allowed Dinka to use SPLA tanks and machine-guns to massacre Murle women and children. Those orders were given by Dr Garang himself and exe

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        • 8 January 2012 12:28, by Legacy Elites

          . . . Executed by Salva Kiir himself in 1987, where thousands were killed maily women and children grinded under tanks. In Boma and Pibor Kuol Manyang and other Dinka commanders killed the remaing men in prisons.

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    • 7 January 2012 17:44, by Deng manyok

      Bol, Murle can blaming themselves, don’t try to portray as genocide they deseves it because Murle are like hyenas. They have been killing people in Jonglei from long time ago. I can not stimate how long it was, but it was been a long time. When the SPLA was started in 1983 they intensify kill civil under Ismael Konyi and SPLA didn’t react to them.4 years ago GoSS declared disarment and disarmed

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      • 7 January 2012 18:11, by Deng manyok

        all the tribes in Jonglei except Murle because they were part of militan of Ismael Konyi and Konyi fail to convince them to sarender their arms to GoSS while they were think as they are top because using their guns agaist the civilian it was the aim to increase their wealthy. All the cattle Murles have aren’t belong to them. they are belong to Anyuk,Dinka,Nuer and so others.so let them learn

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        • 7 January 2012 18:25, by Deng manyok

          in the hard way because their imminent threat and killing civilian it was been enough. And if they still didn’t learn from their violence behavior. Next time their place will be Nuer place, Anyuk and Dinka place if they don’t change their wildbehavior. Because GoSS law fail to discipline Murles for Six years of GoSS governing.

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    • 7 January 2012 19:32, by dad1

      Bol

      Bol you must to know the word genocide, killing of 3000 murles is not genocide they killed more than that in Nuer and Dinka and abducted more then 10,000 children and they are still killing and raiding in both Nuer and Dinka lands like killing of 4 people and raided 1500 cattle in Duk on 5th Jan and more cattle in Uror county on 2nd Jan. Murle are trouble makers in Jonglei state

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    • 8 January 2012 06:42, by Acamtelaau

      George Bol, Thank you but what you have said will never happen because Murle had been abducted millions of children, stolen many of thousand of cattle, and killed millions of people in Twic East, Duke and Bor county (Dinka Bor) all these years and no one ask for refunding. Murle will be accountable for the damaged that had happen in their land as of now becaue they had been playing this game since

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  • 7 January 2012 07:21, by Rommel

    Can we have a moment of tact and grace for once on this website? Let’s not have the typical responses that gloat at the misery of kin that we strangely see as unconnected to ourselves. If these frightening casualty estimates are correct... this would further illustrate that this ’government’ is now without legitimacy.

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  • 7 January 2012 07:44, by Cobra Bior

    "give the devil his due, whats goes around, comes back around" living in peace mean alot but if murle doesn’t want that priviledge, it would be better to kill them all. that a lesson to the community being govern by criminals and outlaws. world won’t understand this situation. one should not work hard for stuff, and someone comes and kill you and your family and take all your properties.

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    • 7 January 2012 07:46, by sober

      (South Sudan’s Council of Ministers has declared Jonglei state a "humanitarian disaster area.) (The council of ministers directed the two ethnic groups to return women and children from both sides who have been abducted). Goss ……., well done.

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      • 7 January 2012 07:55, by green2

        I think it is too late for them. they were sleeping! when murle hunt kids in Lou and in Bor, this council was there, i dont know, what they were thinking? Abduction of kids, and sitting in Juba, doing nothing not even to send political figures to go and talk to murle! first, it is shameful for our govt in global position! what is the worse thing, this govt can respond to, than the abduction of kid

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    • 7 January 2012 09:02, by Rommel

      Cobra Bior:

      You’re advocating genocide [in reality fratricide], when you’ve already been subjected to all of this only just two decades ago. How many of your family members in Kongor (Pan Bior) were killed in 1991!? You are from Twic-east, and so should not be encouraging this!

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  • 7 January 2012 07:45, by green2

    unconfirm number! exaggression to fuel another revenge again. Well whoever in Murle as leaders and thugs, you are all they same! You should have known better, abduction of humans is not like abducting the calf of animals! Sorry for that number, but didnt stop there unless you’ Murle have to ease and be honest to the rest of s.sudan communities! we’ll go back to the state of nuture!

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    • 7 January 2012 08:04, by Cobra Bior

      @ Green2. thanks man, that a talk right there bro, how long murle be allowed to kill our people with no reason than looting. didnt we gave up all cows, here come a gain killing granma and granfa, taking all the children. No, not this times, we got to put a breake on this, one and for all. murle need to learn to find other way of living than being a parasites.

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  • 7 January 2012 08:01, by Deng II

    Nuer and Murle don’t need to lied and overstated the numbers of death. That numbers can be killed when they all are tied down without to run. If the attackers numbers are 5000, each one of 3000 attackers killed one person, and 2000 attackers wouded may be 6000 or 5000. What a bullshit, just AK 47, without cluster bomb or atomic bomb. South sudan need not to attrack UN for help, they are country no

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    • 7 January 2012 08:11, by green2

      @Deng! you’r right, it is because aids! that what kill the truth in Africa continent, most of people lie to gain fund. people die but i dont believe it went to that number.Plus Jounalists in s. sudan, they just wrote what they heard from another one, most of theirs writing are subjectives!

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      • 7 January 2012 08:17, by George Bol

        Fool! if you have machine gun you can killed 100 out 200. You are all stupid and untrained.

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        • 7 January 2012 09:39, by Land-of-Cush

          Geoge Bol

          bad luck to Murle.
          this killing should have go to you enemy of Nuer.
          But we will get you one by one. Any body against Naath community has a long tail running after. We love Murle as Brother but they are not patient.

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          • 7 January 2012 10:48, by mohammed ali

            Cush, What a shame! I thought you are an educated person, yet you are calling for killing of others ..one by one..what a shame!

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            • 7 January 2012 11:00, by Land-of-Cush

              Mahammed Ali

              If you are enemy of Nuer you will Die too.
              We are not causetive in our life but we to show to straigest if they over jump the border. we don’t care how high you are we will bring you down.

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              • 7 January 2012 11:10, by mohammed ali

                Cush, to think to kill is evil in itself, it is horrible.I have never had that feeling "to kill somebody". You said it with pride and wrote it in capital " you will Die" This horrible. Human beings donnot have this feeling, animals do! I feel sorry for you.

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                • 7 January 2012 12:38, by SeekingTruth

                  MOHAMMED, FUNNY HOW U LEAVE THE LOGS IN UR OWN EYES WHILE COMING HERE TO TEACH HOW EVIL THE KILLINGS IS? ISN’T YOU THE SAME PERSON WHO ON DAILY BASIS CALLS FOR THE KILLINGS OF NUBIANS, DARFURIANS, BLUE NILEANS ETC? WHAT A WORLD OF HYPOCRISY!

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                  • 7 January 2012 15:50, by mohammed ali

                    Truth seeker, you will never find it!I am nubian & have never called for killing anyone in my life!There is nothing called blue nileans & blue nile is inhabited by different tribes and groups,majority of them are not involved in the war,like wise S.Kordufan not all are nubians and there are Nubians on both sides.Those who seek the truth,follow it even if it is coming from a hypocrite,like me

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      • 7 January 2012 08:22, by Deng II

        I agreed with you Green, they driven by UN food, nothing else, but we are hardworking people, we don’t need UN food all the time.

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  • 7 January 2012 08:14, by Deng II

    South Sudan are a Country right now, they don’t need to become addicted or dependent with UN food or help. They need to learn how to help one other, how to produce food by their own power.

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    • 7 January 2012 08:49, by The Commissioner

      Those of you who are evil enough to celebrate and laugh at Murle today, remember that you will soon use that same throat to cry, so don’t laugh too much. MUTU DE TANNA KULU. O GI JA LE NAS KULU. Just wait and see

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  • 7 January 2012 09:04, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

    well Murlei is offence many surrunding.
    they alway offend Lou many time.

    that is the consequence if it.

    this time they will bring lou children

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    • 7 January 2012 09:30, by Rommel

      Nguetbuny de Luelpiny:

      You do realise that the Lou-Nuer killed close to a 1000 Murle before the Murle responded in kind in August, to which the Lou-Nuer now disingenuously claim to be responding to, as if they were themselves innocent of wanton violence and kidnapping the children of others.

      Why are people now absolving the Lou-Nuer of crimes they accuse the Murle of committing!?

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      • 7 January 2012 09:55, by Land-of-Cush

        Cammel

        This is not the first time for murle to attack lou-nuer, Jikeny-nuer,anuak, dinka and snatching children. You just wake-up yesterday and get to know when lou-nuer attacked murle. This practic has been taken place before the gun has been introduce to Africa native.

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        • 7 January 2012 10:06, by Rommel

          Land-of-Cush

          You don’t seem to understand the crux of my argument. I made note of the fact that the Lou-Nuer are themselves guilty of crimes they accuse the Murle of committing. Violently sequestering the children of others has been a perennial practice among virtually all the tribes in Jonglei for centuries on end. I reject the implicit suggestion that others are without fault in this tragedy.

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          • 7 January 2012 10:38, by green2

            @Rommel!
            I think, you dont know the history of s.sudan! murle themselve, they can admited that, this problem was waging by them, not lou-nuer or dinka bor. Be honet, if you want to solve the problem, believe in truth. Target the root cause of the problem. This problem, doesnt need to be political motive. Murle need to be ease for abduction that how peace will come to the religion!

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  • 7 January 2012 09:37, by athor deng

    Death is one of two things...
    Either it is annihilation,
    and the dead have no consciousness of anything;
    or, as we are told, it is really a change:
    a migration of the soul from one place to another..My prayers goes out to the families who loss their love ones..Juba government should be hold accountable..Watch, Murle are going to retaliate soon and Kiir and his friends are going to do nothing...

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  • 7 January 2012 09:51, by mohammed ali

    The tragedy is that everyone is blaming the Murle.Even the president put the blamed the on Murle, saying that they are infertile! I donnot see any infertility here; hundreds of childrens are killed and over 1,000 are missing;where is the infertility?The president didn’t utter a single word, while he was spending Christhmas and new year with his family, while his people were butchered en mass ..con

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    • 7 January 2012 10:10, by Land-of-Cush

      M-Ali
      there was a time I had apprechiating your comment as you are a sensetive commentator from Arab north. But this time all your comments are too strainge. My friend we do understand you black arabe of Darfure are totally converting from being muslim to Gays slamism thinking you will born your Mohamed through your mouth I gest but will not. Please can you talk about north afaire instead of south

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      • 7 January 2012 10:35, by mohammed ali

        Cush,if you read Rommel he was saying the same thing!Blaming Murle alone is a crme in itself!Lou Neur had a big figting with Jenyaki Nuer,women & childrens were killed, burned and drowned alive,many childrens were abducted; up to now there is intermittent figting Cubeit and Rumbek among Dinka,many small tribes have been over-ran by big tribes.Nobody is without fault,blaming Murle alone is an ..co

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        • 7 January 2012 10:44, by mohammed ali

          .. blaming Murle alone is an open invitation to genocide.The most dangerous thing is that the blame came from the president himself,who kept silent when he was recieveing warning from the UN, and went to spend his holiday in his hometown!The root cause is poverty and lack of education.Nobody will risk his life in such a way if he is economically satisfied.They are just human beings like me & you.

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    • 7 January 2012 10:22, by mohammed ali

      ..Not enough troops were moved to protect innocent civillians.The theatrical movement of the VP begging his tribe not to attack were not effective.Law and order are established by force and power.Helda Jones was wittnessing genocida and mass killing unfolding infront of her own eyes.UNIMISS was just watching chapter 7!What a shame!Now she is commending SPLA. She should resign now!

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      • 7 January 2012 10:41, by Land-of-Cush

        Mohammed Ali

        SPLA is a Sudan People Liberation Army ok! Not a person that can resign from position. One gain You want to know that civilians are figting against civilians (lou-murle).
        But govt can just only intervent the issue or if you need any thing else rather then this go ahead.

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        • 7 January 2012 10:57, by mohammed ali

          Cush, I will repeat what I said " Now she ( Helda Jones( is commending SPLA.She should resign" Is that clear now. If those who were killed, or even one tenth of them , were white in a white country; she would have resigned ages ago.Now she is commending the SPLA just to cover up for her lack of action to prevent this genocide!

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          • 7 January 2012 11:14, by Land-of-Cush

            Ali

            you make me clear now.... Just continous with your drum-beat on south sudan. Now make sure that our blaming on South Sudan govt has been devert unto you since you and Jalaby are too much straige on south sudan...again we are not happy about the death of Murle people but the emotion engage the action.

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            • 7 January 2012 11:32, by mohammed ali

              Cush, that is great you are not happy now, really great! The red cross man on tv said that they found a child tied to his mother back who was dead 2 days ago.Who will tolerate and accept such a thing.Killing innocent civillians is horrible. It is against being a human being!

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              • 7 January 2012 11:48, by Land-of-Cush

                Mohammed Ali

                Millions of south Sudanese have been dying for so many years from 1956-2005 in Sudan but none of your sudan government have been protacting them? now do you want to educate us after we left you behind do you?

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                • 7 January 2012 15:25, by mohammed ali

                  Cush,let us educate each other, let us learn from our mistakes,or do you prefer more millions to die? What gain did we got from these war,tell me a single benifit.You may say you got your "independence"..ok,what is use if we are still fighting & there are wars all over Sudan.Nivasha was not well engineered,it was supposed to solve all problems and put it on paper.Seems now we are close to square 1

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      • 7 January 2012 10:52, by Joseph Canada

        Ali, its true that the minute minority like murle people are singled out even by the greed of the two tribal government of South Sudan. As the commissioner said the same mouth you are smiling will be the same mouth you will be crying is the answer. Nuer Communities here in Canada specially in my town and North A America got together to raise the money to help buy weapons God is watching.

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        • 7 January 2012 10:58, by Joseph Canada

          They are now crying to the UN for help as if they didn’t know that they have budgeted for the massacre. To Murle people, You are lot alon with tears in your eyes. We, the people who helped give money thinking that it would be used to help the displaced South Sudanese as it was said on the party are crying with you. They knew this and they are pretending to have known nothing.may they rest in peac

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          • 7 January 2012 10:59, by Joseph Canada

            I mean "Not" alone!!!

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            • 7 January 2012 11:21, by mohammed ali

              Joseph, God is always with the poor and the vulnerable, irrespective of his believeing or ethinic origin.Let us pray for peace to prevail all over Sudan.Even the fighting Neuer by and large are poor people who are manipulated & misguided by their greedy and selfish politicians.They want them to remain uneducated so that they continue loooooting their money and siphoning it abroad to their families

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        • 7 January 2012 11:10, by green2

          @Joseph canada! majority matter in democray i will assume you’ll be prime minister of canada very soon! Do you know the population of dinka alone? ignorance about our social issues is the big problem to us. You were not born and rise in sudan! Dinka can be a country like one of the countries on earth! there is no domonation but you’r obsession and hatred toward dinka covered and had blinded you!

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          • 7 January 2012 11:30, by Joseph Canada

            SEE THOSE KIND OF CHEAP VILLAGE POLITICS LIKE THAT OF YOURS ARE THE ONE THAT MAKE JONGOLEI STATE LOOKS LIKE NATIONAL PARK. IT START FROM YOU TO ALL OF THEM. SHAME ON YOU CALLING ME NON SUDANESE. YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW WHO TOOK THE BULLET SO THAT YOU CAN WIGGLE THAT TAIL OF YOURS ON THAT COMPUTER. THE TIME WILL COME WHEN YOU KNOW THAT I WAS RIGHT.

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    • 7 January 2012 10:56, by green2

      @Ali!You know, the caused and the reason! dont forget, we are not entities of political production!we are humans, and humans track the cause than the action! Ali! you know s.sudan because of politics, you dont know them on personal basis! you can be against dinka or nuer, but i kn, it’s your political orientation. this problem of murle, you’ll not understand in political context, it’s beyond!

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      • 7 January 2012 11:07, by Joseph Canada

        Green, your defend have no prove. The whole World know who Dinka and Nuer are when it comes to agressions and innocent murders. They are the people who are born Ignorant. They like to take people things by force, they like to Bully other tribes.Go to any Refugee camp since 1983 and you will here the fights that erupt there are from the two tribes. even in schools they are the ones. Don’t deny trut

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        • 7 January 2012 11:14, by Joseph Canada

          DON’T DENY THE TRUTH AND TRY TO PLAY THE VICTIM. WE KNOW YOU PEOPLE UNDER THAT CORRUPT FAMILY GOVT. THE ROLES YOU ARE PLAYING. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND. THE INNOCENT BLOOD SHADE FROM THOSE SLAIN WILL HAUNT THOSE INVOLVED. THE WORLD IS WATCHING AND DOCUMENTING. THEY PREACH PEACE IN TOWNS AND MURDEROUS IN THE VILLAGES.

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        • 7 January 2012 11:19, by green2

          @Joseph! despite of any things you have mention, you still fail to understand why things happen! there is no dinka can take someone staffs in bulling way! these are all faults, but there will be times, you will learn who are these people. we dont rob people, but your people propagand during the war, in UK, ASA, and Canada that dinka are bad ppl, but truth are there! you’r ppl wose than evil!I kn

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          • 7 January 2012 11:35, by Joseph Canada

            HAHAHA.. I PITY YOU BROTHER. YOU ARE VERY BEHIND. IF THAT’S HOW YOU SEE IT, YOU BETTER OPEN YOUR EYES. BUT FOR SURE I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THIS AND YOU ARE JUST DENYING IT.

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        • 7 January 2012 12:57, by SeekingTruth

          @JOSEPH, NOBODY LIKE TO SEE OR HEAR WHAT’S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN THE SOUTH AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH STATING UR OPINION BUT SOME PEOPLE ON THIS WEB SUCH AS MOHAMMED ARE JUST HERE PURPOSELY TO PROMOTE HATRED AMONGST THE SOUTH SUDANESE. I KNOW UR ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS, PLEASE DO NOT LET URSELF BEING DRAGGED INTO A TRIBALIST.ALI,GO TO HELL WITH UR DIVISIVENESS AMONG SOUTHERNERS!

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        • 8 January 2012 05:39, by lick my ass

          @ joseph gay wife , please i know why you are not happy with Dinkas and Nuer. it is just one thing, those two communities did not collaborate with Arabs during the struggle and due to their bravery they had brought peace to Junub Sudan.if you have not yet divorced your former gay husband you are free to follow them they are just near the border.i warn you to shut up your filthy mouth.

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  • 7 January 2012 11:21, by J P Puok

    look of how crude this report is ! who on earth can waste time to abduct and adapt murle child? Do you know how murle children look to begin with ! Horrible ! And according to 2008 census how many were they and if that number is really killed then Mr konyi don’t qualify to be there bcse Pibor county will be disqualify bcse of insufficient population, least than needed to make up a county.

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    • 7 January 2012 11:43, by mohammed ali

      Puok,what is wrong with a murle child?What is difference between American,European,Arab and Murle child.God has created us equal and free.Your comment on how Murle child is a disgusting and dirty racist comment.We have seen these children on tv and there was no difference between them and and any other child.Your inferiority complex should not be reflected in pretending to be superior to others

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    • 7 January 2012 11:56, by mohammed ali

      Puok, What is wrong with Murle child? What is difference between American,European,Arab,Dinka,Neuer child?To begin with, your comment on how the Murle children look is a dirty,filthy and wicked racist comment comming from and ignorant who is suffering from inferiority complex.Your complex should not make you look down to others and superior to them.

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      • 7 January 2012 12:46, by athor deng

        Mohammed..I love how you always tell these people the truth and they always come by attacking you..Wow, South Sudan is full of Stupid and uneducated politicians..Mr Green..Never wish death on anybody, what if those victims were your family?

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        • 7 January 2012 13:13, by Rommel

          Athor Deng:

          Your obsequious little remark could have been received as merely a joke, but you’re actualy serious... aren’t you?

          How in the world does Mohammed always tell the truth!? He does the exact opposite in regards to a host of issues that are of consequence to our respective Nations. I cannot entirely gauge the motivations and sincerity of a man from a computer screen, however, I do feel

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          • 7 January 2012 13:26, by Rommel

            that he engages in hypocritical, self-righteous posturing. Mohammed’s message is clear even if the thinking isn’t and is just a tad bit amnesic. The message is encapsulated in a question: Why isn’t Juba protecting its citizens? He seems to forget that successive ’governments’ in Khartoum employed the Murahaleen on raids on the Dinka; killing, looting and burning crops, creating an artificial

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            • 7 January 2012 13:33, by Rommel

              famine in the process > resulting in the deaths of a quarter of a million Dinka in Bahr el Ghazal in the late 1980’s. The failures he seems to want to condemn Juba for, are precisely the same failures successive Northern ’governments’ are guilty of... only with an infinitely more invested hand and a more pronounced culpability.

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              • 7 January 2012 14:05, by athor deng

                Rommel.. don’t mix thinks that cannot be mixed,islamic? governance was killing our people in the south but now that we got our Country, why do we have to continued the killing of innocent civilians? Every problem we have right now in SS is because of our government..Some of the stuff brother Ali Said are true..I’m not going to waste my time writing to people that can not understand life

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                • 7 January 2012 14:25, by Rommel

                  What point do think you’ve made, Athor? Yes the ’government’ was "killing our people", but more than that it was killing its own citizens - not some alien populace! It was the ’government’ of the entire country and yet it armed groups to massacre and displace certain tribes in the South, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of our people in one specific area of time and in one region.

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                  • 7 January 2012 14:31, by Rommel

                    I mention these facts not in an attempt to absolve Juba of its own crimes, failures and culpability but rather to put things into perspective and dislodge Mohammed Ali from his high horse in the process.

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                    • 7 January 2012 14:45, by Rommel

                      I also forgot to mention that I am glad that you’ve now reduced your marking of Mohammed Ali, from initially "always" telling the truth to now being relegated in only having a portion of what he says to be actually true.

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                      • 7 January 2012 16:01, by mohammed ali

                        Rommel, donnot worry,it is impossible for me to say the right thing all the time. I am not a prophit; am just a simple human who is trying to share my views with others.You are always wellcomed to correct me whenever I am wrong.

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  • 7 January 2012 14:18, by Waucity

    IT is too soon to have counted people that died...This a lie, this is what I hate about anything that contain Equatorian Blood..They are too weak that if they find opportunity to hit somebody they would not let it go again..Too weak to admmit truths, If I may ask Murlei, what did they really expect to happen when the take something that is so personal to an individual such as child? War off course

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  • 7 January 2012 16:06, by The Republic of South Sudan

    It is disaster in Murle land. it is good and big lesson to them but to mi am not happy because of those kids and women because they are innocence. I wish only men die because they are the one who look for death.

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  • 7 January 2012 17:35, by mohammed ali

    ((The leadership of the White Army has met today in Lilkuangole to determine the situation in Jonglei state after successfully launching Operation Ending Murle’s Abductions on December 22nd, 2011. After reviewing the operation, the leader of the White Army, Bor Doang informed the Executive Council of the White Army that the operation has been successful.))

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    • 7 January 2012 17:38, by mohammed ali

      (( The Executive Council congratulated Bor Doang for successful and capable leadership that disarmed Murle in a very short period of time. Although majority of Murle tribe escaped to Ethiopian mountains, the Executive Council has no intention to pursue them in a foreign country.))http://southsudannation.com/pr%20lounueryouthinmurle78.htm

      If nobody is frightened from this,I think he is not sane!!

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      • 7 January 2012 17:49, by mohammed ali

        ((We would like to warn President Salva Kiir that any attempt to disarm the Nuer White Army will lead to catastrophe and bloodbath. The president must avoid sliding the South to a failed state and should rationally study the situation on the ground without emotion. The Nuer and Dinka youth are very angry and have acquired military arsenal which can bring down the government in Juba if provoked. ))

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        • 7 January 2012 18:01, by mohammed ali

          Waw! This really very scarey!What will happen if they fight against each other,I mean Dinka and neuer!Where is SS is heading to?! I am afraid that Khartoum will be accused of arming them! You cannot have 2 armies in one state! An army that warn the president and vice-president.Prudent and wise people should tackle this problem before it is too late; if it is not already too late!

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          • 7 January 2012 18:41, by Rommel

            I don’t know of what to make of your posts. I don’t think you’re being sincere, at all, especially when you muse on and on about the prospect of a collision between the Dinka and Nuer in an almost enthralled manner; a manner that betrays the false empathy and concern you so wish to convey to the credulous, submissive and downright stupid.

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            • 7 January 2012 18:53, by mohammed ali

              Rommel, that is your opinion, you are entitled to it, it is your right. I mention collision between Dinka & Nuer only once.I said,what if they fight against each other,someting even if it is extreemly remote,one should think about in this tribally polarised enviorment.But you left everything and concentrated on 1 thing.You will never know wheather am sincere or not, god only knowes.It would...co

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              • 7 January 2012 19:04, by mohammed ali

                ..be far better if take my points at their face value, my sicirity won’t change anything here.The main issue is that there is "seemingly" a very strong army besides the national , which can warn both the president and VP and fight a war in defiance to the VP & UN! If this not allarming, then I will leave to you.You can blame Arabs, Jalabba or whatever!

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                • 7 January 2012 19:14, by Rommel

                  The ’White army’, as they call themselves is not an army at all and it certainly isn’t "strong". It is merely a collection of Lou and Jikany Nuer youth who are themselves untrained, but have seen it fit to take it upon themselves the defence of their homelands — and more as we saw in Pibor. They were forcefully disarmed in 2006, but must have re-armed themselves somehow.

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  • 8 January 2012 00:08, by Kim Deng

    Had the Nuer ever wished to occupy the whole greater Upper Nile, from Renk to Mading Bor and from Ruweng/Biemnom to Buma-Gambella, it seems unlikely that the other coward Jurs (Jaang, Teet, Bar, Chai…) could have stopped them.

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  • 8 January 2012 00:10, by Kim Deng

    Dinka alliance with the Nuer had analogous effects. The alliance of a Dinka tribal section with a segment of one Nuer tribe provided security against raids by other Nuer only for that particular Dinka section, and only if the latter lived among their Nuer kin and affine. Moreover, the presence of such Dinka elements within a Nuer tribe did not deter them from raiding other Dinka.

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  • 8 January 2012 00:12, by Kim Deng

    Murle,

    The Murle community doesn’t deserve to have cattle at the first place if not because of Nuer mercy. The Nuer Warriors fight like mad dogs when they declare "Kac-lora/Mut." It’s not right or losing lives that matter when waging a war, but victory. Don’t disturb the sleeping Lion, otherwise your life will be in danger.

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  • 8 January 2012 02:55, by Lang

    What bullshit, the number hasn’t even been confirmed by the UN that 3000 were killed, Hilde Johnson says there is no evidence of this number and Lise grande also said the number could be in the TENS or hundreds just days before this ridiculous report was put out.

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  • 8 January 2012 05:00, by wang

    We never killed these numbers of Murle civilians and did not steal these fake numbers of cattle. Those civilians died from starvation. Imagine 11 days without foods and water. Murle’s Commissioner was just made up these numbers for whatever reasons, whether they want to get more reliefs aids from UN or something else.

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    • 8 January 2012 06:32, by Stephen kuach

      Death of any human being always replace people in heart felt and empathy situation,i blame Murle for their death,maybe they should learn after this mass killing.but atleast the GOSS should still protect the innocent civilians regardless of who they are,our Government should always neutronize itself in the center interm of protection.

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  • 9 January 2012 05:51, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

    Wang

    This numbers could be true or more, Nuer have a history of burtal slaughtered to another tribe. I remember in 1992 in Ngok-Puluth manslaugter.
    that number can reach even more than that. Numer one Nuer does not like Little short people in nature. Nuer might killed ugly or take the tall,beauty one. Murlei have killed more that from lou Nuer,Jikeny,Anywak.

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