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August 10, 2011 (JUBA) – South Sudan’s vice president, Riek Machar, has apologised to the Dinka Bor community by acknowledging his responsibility for an incident in 1991 which resulted in the loss of hundreds of lives in the community, announced a deputy spokesperson of the South Sudan army, the Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA).

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The officer in charge of the SPLA information department, Malak Ayuen Ajok, revealed on the official South Sudan TV that Machar acknowledged his responsibility of the 1991 incidence in Bor following his defection on 28 August 1991 from late John Garang’s leadership.

At a gathering organised by the Dinka Bor community in Juba, reportedly attended by Machar, the army officer told the TV viewers that a number of Dinka Bor community elders including Rebecca Nyandeng de Mabior, the widow of late John Garang, expressed their forgiveness to the vice president.

Malaak, who did not or quote Machar, explained that the apology was the beginning of a reconciliation process and commended the vice president for accepting responsibility of the incident.

The apology has received with mixed reactions by individuals among the Nuer community in Juba and abroad.

Some told Sudan Tribune that the apology was premature and incorrect, calling it a tactic by the Dinka Bor community in order to use the apology against him in the future.

Others welcomed Maxhar’s reconciliatory tone but said it should have been reciprocated with a similar apology by the most senior leader of the Dinka Bor community or Nyandeng, on behalf of the late John Garang for similar incidences that resulted to loss of hundreds of lives in the Jikany Nuer community.

“I don’t believe Riek Machar apologised just like that to the Dinka Bor community. If it is true and aimed to reconcile with the Bor community, then that reconciliation should have been a two-way process. Who among the Dinka Bor’s top leaders apologized on behalf of late Garang for the killing of Jikany Nuer unarmed civilians in 1985?” asked Deng Gatluak.

“Yes, I heard Malaak Ayuen revealing the apology on television. I think they have set him [Machar] up and recorded his confession if it was true so that they can use it against him as evidence of crime. I have been hearing ordinary Dinka boys and girls talking of wanting to take him to the ICC [International Criminal Court] or any other court over the 1991 incident. They may use his apology as an evidence to present to court or to blackmail him with it as a leader,” said another who asked for anonymity.

He went on to question why the apology did not come directly from the source.

Gordon Buay, the former Secretary General of the South Sudan Democratic Party said he was shocked by the apology.

“I was completely shocked that a man like Riek Machar could apologise for 1991 Nasir Declaration which brought the right to self-determination to fore. It is very sad indeed that Riek Machar should reduce himself to the level of Peter Gatdet,” Buay said, referring to another Nuer rebel who recently rejoined the government.

Lul Gatkuoth Nguth, a member of the South Sudanese diaspora in Canada, welcomed the apology, saying it is a politically astute move, to bring peace and harmony to the communities.

“In my opinion, it is not shame that Riek Machar Teny apologized to Dinka Bor community. This is how the politics work. If you go through peace and conciliation process, this term ’apology’ has to apply if you are a real good politician who has a big mind,” he said.

In 1991 the vice president, Riek Machar, split from the SPLM/A under the leadership of late John Garang, calling for self-determination for the people of South Sudan to be the main objective of the movement. He and the current leader of the SPLM-DC, Lam Akol, also cited a lack of democratic principles and human rights abuses as factors that prompted their split.

Machar however rejoined the SPLM/A in 2002 with his forces and has been the party’s deputy chairman as well as the vice president of South Sudan for the last six years.

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  • 11 August 2011 06:33, by MINDED.DUDE

    thank you V.P
    You are apology is highly accepted by all people of south sudan.
    Not only Dinka Bor who were affected by your stupid rebellion.

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    • 11 August 2011 07:02, by Ahmed Chol

      Let’s look forward. What matter is not the past but how we treat ourselves now.
      It is now true that what begins in anger ends in shame!

      Ahmed Chol, whatever begins in anger, ends in shame

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      • 11 August 2011 07:27, by Jay

        Machar has to deliver apology directly in person on TV to the people of Bor, not just through second or third part because this issue is not going to end, it’ll hunt him forever! It’s undermining his leadership no matter what he does.

        If he need to govern with no respect then so be it!
        No one need "window dressing", we need legitimate apology!

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        • 11 August 2011 08:55, by Chakin Riek Rah

          Jay,

          I don’t think Dr.Riek’s apologised is necessary. However, how about those Nuer was massacred by Koal Minyng, is he going to apology to the Nuer too or not? If he doesn’t apology that would not be fair.

          Dr. Riek is damaging his reputation to the Nuer’s communities by Apologised to the Dinka’s Bor. What ever happened in 1991 was a fair games. I can assure you that there is somethings behind this apology whether it is a polilcal ambition or some else; we will see.

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        • 11 August 2011 09:19, by Dakkin

          Jay,

          In an amusing twist, Salva Kiir, Awet Akot, Gier Chuang and Kuol Manyang reportedly boycotted the meeting after failing to convince Machar not to attend such a meeting with dinka bor!

          The question is, when will they come out really to issue a big apology to the nuer community and self determination south sudan?

          There is nothing called dinka ’bor’ massacre in the first place and I heard that Nyandeng left the meeting earlier before Riek could make a speech being the one to step up first and apologise to the Nuer civilians on behalf of late Dr. Garang

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          • 11 August 2011 10:10, by man koryom

            @ Dark side

            Awet, Gier, Pres Kiir are not from Bor. Kuol Manyang was not in Juba during that meeting, so quit lying to the world.

            In 1985, Dinka Bor were not responsible for anything happened in Jikany, it was the SPLA/M led by Nuer son William Nyuon. So if you need an apology for that then ask the SPLM party and Dr. Riek will do it in behave of the party. When Gai Tut split from the SPLM, he went to Lou areas and convey wrong message to Nuer people in the village that the movement was taken away from his by Dinka Bor. He told them not to join the SPLM because it is for Dinka. The hostility toward SPLM soldiers was created by Gai Tut. When SPLM came to Lou area to inform them to join the movement, Lou young men ambush them, kill them and take their guns.

            After several tried by SPLM to convince Nuer to join the movement, Garang send South Sudan war hero William Nyuon to handle the situation, but foolish Nuer coward keep attacking the soldier (SPLM) for no reason, therefore, Nyuon response in retaliation and that was a right thing to do. Now you are blaming Dinka Bor for that, what a shame.

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            • 11 August 2011 11:53, by Dakkin

              Man Koryom and all dinka bor,

              The problem is that you demand apology for your own wrongs of your own making! If Machar decided to apologise on behalf of the Lou Nuer civilians when he is not even a civilian chief but just because you have been clamouring for it. What a good man!
              Just an apology you demanded but the solution lies with your Jonglei governor.

              Don’t lie to me, the assasination of Chuol Deng in an attempt by Garang to fulfill his united sudan vision is what proved costly in the long run. What is united sudan without the Nuer afterall?

              How was Mading Bor affected by 1991 in terms of lifes lost?
              I assume you must have heard of fightings in Duk and Panyagor one week in advance and by the time it reached Bor, all of you were in Kakuma Refugee camp, good for you than the nuer civilians! You had been displaced....

              It is a pity to blame someone who had a better idea to drastically cut the human costs of the war and leave those who turn it TRIBAL.

              Congratulation to you for a FREE SOUTH SUDAN man though not yet fully free!

              I think Nyandeng must apologise for the Gaatjaak massacres carried out under Garang’s orders.

              Kuol Manyang,Gier Chuang, Awet Akot massacres of uniformed Nuer soldiers fighting arab in various frontlines around Juba clearly talk much about your aimless war and lack of objectives; how can you just run about desparately blaming anybody. I know most of NBG dinka joined the movement simply to acquire arms and depend themselves and their cows from raids by arab nomads(muralleen).
              Do you know that your tribal leader was just led go running naked at Magui?

              Riek Machar does not favour killings, you have to find out why some of his people call him a fool!

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              • 11 August 2011 14:17, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                It is so good that mr Nyagat Riek has confess.

                Thank God that he reveal his wicked oafsh of nassir gangster attitudes so that we will presence them to the court of laws.

                The bad side about this usless and doom apology is that the fat ass Gordon buay is still exasting form his trible doom and ugly dumb uncivilisted towards the great people of Dinkas.
                If you so called fat ass ugly Gordon buay don’t shot up your uncivilist attitudes against the people who libaret nuer out from slaver. than you will be subject to death.

                This apology must first be accepted by military official not maleak Ayuen Ajok only. than to the great people of Bor Dinkas or we will take it as a no to any doom and wicked oaf evilsh from any member of the khartoum_nassir gang apologice.

                Dose dumb fat ass ugly dog so called Gordon buay think that he is batter than nyagat Riek machar or he think that all nuer nyagateen have lower IQ like him?.

                Gordon buay need to make sure that he dose not want to step his wicked foot in South Sudan or he will be subject to his own attitudes.

                Riek machar is a dog and want the dog acknowledge his mistake. that he will be punishe according to the rules of laws.

                I hope this a begining of downfail of nassir gangster group and another doom and wicked foolsh so called lam Akol must also confess his crimes he committed with his gang leader or he will be subject to death in short term?.

                All nassir gangster must stand and say sorry to the SPLA/M too because they murdered alots of SPLA/M officer.

                To those nuer employed by sudantribune. you must be carefull or your website will be shot down in south sudan. do you think that deleting comment here is the good things that you can do? no my friends we can just shot down any time here. so stop your nuer attitudes towards Dinkas. your wicked behaviour has been detected already so stop that work of doom dumbs.
                shame on you greedy nuer nyagateen employeed by poor Sudan Tribune.com..

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                • 11 August 2011 22:14, by padiit gaga

                  Dinka Dominated Spla

                  The opologist of Dr.Riek is nothing because he was not the one who kill Dinka Bor those who killed Dinka Bor were civillains not soldier. The Lou Nuer youths were they people who killed Bor why they were not fight back due their cowardness they just ran to the bush instead to fight.

                  Dinka have been cowards for hundrend years till now Nuer used to slave them and killed them but the could not go to contact Omer why Nuer kill them because they civillains like them. Even now in eastern Jikany they are a lot of dinka whose their grand parents were slave from Dinka by Nuer. Killing of Dinka is like killing of fishes instead of human. If i was Dr. Riek , i could not apologist to dinka Bor. Late leader Garang killed hundren from in eastern Jikang who will opologist to them?

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                • 12 August 2011 17:47, by Ke kon cowkun

                  Shame to Dr.Riek for his apologized to Dinka Bor.Who will apology for the killing of Jikany ? I’m so sorry to hear the apology of Riek Machar.To the unknown stupid man called himself Dinka Dominated spla/m,your words gets nothing at all in this forum,the tribal that you are using to insult Nuer will let you be in the dark place.If no one from Dinka Bor to apology for the killing of Jekany,the apology of Riek is only for him and for how he thought to justify himself for,we don’t agree on it.Riek gave those stupid animals Dinka a chance to justify themselves.We Nuer,are great men,we are not like those cowards or wild animals Dinka who pretend themselves as a human while they are not,no human being eat human flesh.They don’t really know how to rule people b/c they are not.How can an animals know how to rule people ? you can certify in their leadership now,a lot of corruption and corruption will not end.But my message to you cowards and greedy dinka,your time is about to an end and that will be your problem and finishing.

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              • 11 August 2011 15:11, by DeltaBravo

                To Dakin
                You and Mankoryom ting koryom are going to far from the web. Iam from NBG and you are now taking DR.Riek appology to insult NBG STATE please you guys need to refrain from such Tribal behaviours. Iam not Tribalist, iam against it because it make you look bad as educated person. We have to talk on Nationl level rather then Tribal line.

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                • 11 August 2011 17:02, by Dakkin

                  Delta Bravo,

                  You are right! The problem is this half cast coward dinka clan of Bor who like to incorperate their backward agendas into national issues and thus turn the subject matter tribal.

                  Those dinkas of Twic and Duk who encounters the nuer knows that war affect everybody not just only dinka.

                  These people of Kuol Manyang are sick. They need to come to their senses,forget about their illusion of being super power and try to live in harmony with the other dinkas, nuer, murle and anyuak.

                  I can not see them in Abyei, I can not see them in Bentiu and now they are crying of being massacred in a war that took place when they were already at Kakuma camp.
                  Yet they can never stop issuing threats after threats to nuer.

                  What is wrong with this dinka bor people?
                  It seems that when dinka bor attacked you and you defeated them they will demand an apology from you afterward

                  Since Riek has become a nuer sultan, good idea for national reconcilliation!
                  I heard that they want to assasinate Kiir on the days running up to independance.
                  Let them not repeat that mistake again!!!

                  And nothing called ’Bor’ massacre,so for the sake of reconcilliation I expect Riek to apologise fully for the Kakuma massacre when dinka bor got defeated in the hands of nuer minors they attacked

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              • 12 August 2011 02:03, by Dhalaluaak

                Dakin,

                You are not too far from being a fool,who don’t actually acknowledged the most tragic atrocities committed by Abdala Chuol Deng before he was killed by Late William Nyuon Bany.
                Abdala,Gai Tut and Akuot turned against the untrained civilians,who traveled alone the Nuer land on their way to Itang,Bilpam and Bongo in order for them to joint the SPLA/SPLM’s movement for our total and absolute revolutionary struggle’s independence.How ever,the majority of those civilians,who were affected by those monsters random killings were mostly from Bar al ghazal between 1984-1986.

                Mind you,Abdala Chuol was not assassinated but was killed in the battle field.The majority of people,who were supposedly be with Muor muor battalion,Kazuk and zalzal lost their lives to Abdala and Gai Tut before they reached Itang even.They end up being murdered along the way within Nuer area up to Duochan desert.If any SPLA fought them,then it was because they were defending themselves[ they fought for self defense only ].Please go on YOU TUBE and listen to Nyuon Bany speeches when he asked the Nuer elders about the stolen RPG by Nuer Gang monger.

                Coming to Dr.Riek’s apology to Dinka Bor.It is a good moved for him to acknowledged his wrong methods of killing thousand’s innocence civilians in 1991 for his power greed.
                First he tried hard to win more people on under ground movement in order for him to toppled Dr.Garang but failed Politically.And because his dirty game has been known and revealed,he knew that he will be in a big trouble that’s why he think short and his short decisions led the lost of our innocence lives and property[ies].

                In order to proved you wrong,here are his words to the RED ARMY in PUGNIDO,ETHIOPIA in April 1991 as follows:
                * I am saying that the Sudan will be liberated this
                year[1991].
                * one person can destroy Sudan
                * A small man cannot scared the big man
                * Everybody,who come here is a soldier.From here to
                There you are all soldiers.The civilians are the one,
                are at home land in sudan but for you,who are here
                you are all soldiers.Don’t say i am a child,who told
                told you the child’s bullets cannot kill a big man.
                He then when on and hold a boy’s hand and said these words:
                * If a place a big man over there and then give the
                gun to this boy.Can he not gonna kill him? [ He
                asked the question and people said yes he can kill
                him].Then he when on again and said these:Then don’t
                say i am a child.
                * We are all going to liberate Sudan this year.Whether
                you are a child or old,all of us are going to
                liberate Sudan this year.He said a lot of fishy words of his inner distractions,which he had revealed four months later.

                A fool defending the dangerous fool too.Dakin why do you defend him while he did not even apologized to the BUL NUER,whom he had murdered in 1991 when they refused to joint him?He killed PETER PANOM THANYPINY in Nasir and Many other Nuers let alone un numbered Dinka,who fall on his swords of greed.

                He mobilized all his forces[ mainly Nuer ] troops and organized civilian forces against Dinka Bor civilians,who had no one to protect them their sons were busy defending,fighting and dying for our freedom from the Jalaba.There were no forces to fight you greedy rebels,who lacks ideologies to fight for.

                Dr.Riek was play was play trick of his inner hidden agenda to the eastern Nuer by deceiving them with Prophet Ngundeng’s prophecies with the help of the called prophet Wutnyang Gatkak.Who deceived you by killing a goat and order it back to live,which signified that you will die in Jaang land but you would later risen in your Luak.and fools believed this crab without good reasoning of facts.They[Riek and wutnyang] copied this tactic of deception from Dr.Hassan Turabi,who deceived the MUJAHIDIIN that when you die junub you will go to heaven[Gena].Why didn’t he used his people from the place of birth instead.It’s because he knew that he was deceiving you fools.

                It was once said that if a man from Jikany Nuer run after you to kill you,you can at first look at the willow tree such that you pass under.And if you do he will at first pick up some willows then run after you later will you may have been [ food is number one in your society ].Your Civilians were ordered to loot Dinka Bor’s properties and soldiers to kill them such that there will be no one left to support Dr.Garang but God knew how to handle the forces of EVILS thus He[God] Struck your forces with a strong storm of rain and lightening in 1998 killing some of you but you still rebelled and He again struck you for the second time recently in 2009.

                Why did God favored Dinka Bor than you Nuer?It’s because you are full of Evils.nothing good come out of you.Only distractions is your game.When the Southern Citizens are thinking about peace and values pertaining lives,you think differently and your thoughts end up with messive killings of innocence citizens starting from your door steps to your neighbors and the rests.

                I believed that there are good people from among you but they don’t have their voices heard for their fear of being by your wild gangs,who don’t respect human lives[Just hunt for what to kill].

                I have a friend here where i live.He is from Lou Nuer and from Yony Makalip battalion.He told me not too long ago that the first enemy who fought them on their to Sudan from Ethiopia were our crazy brothers.He said.So you all know that you had done a lot of damages in south Sudan since 1983 up to now.

                Dr.Garang did not ordered any SPLA troops to kill Nuer civilians for no reasons unlike Dr.Riek,who ordered his forces to loot and kill civilians at random.What can you do if i snap your head hardly?I think you can snap me back.That was what the SPLA were doing back then.They were defending themselves from your doomed, nerd and dull rebels of personal business[ngagat-a term used and coined by President Mengistu to the Anya nya 2 rebels].

                The Majority of the Anya nya two rebels led by koat matthew joint the Jalaba while remaining rebel forces were politically won by Dr.Garang’s policies and were indeed integrated into the SPLA/SPLM.They joint the SPLA/M with 65 commanders which Bol Kong,Gordon Kong and Paulino Matip etc, just to name a few.Majority of your people died in vain for real.

                Those people from Nuer,who don’t like Dr.Riek to recall and apologized his wrong doings are rebels in their hearts.We Bor citizens accepted his a pology[Even JESUS once told his followers to forgive their enemies but not to forget what they had done in the past].So do we in Bor have accepted that apology but it have been too old and too long give us an apology at this time.

                Did he really mean what he said?Why don’t go to each of Dinka Bor’s county[three counties] to pledge his apology to those widows,orphans and disabled,whom he caused them a permanent damage.We wanted to see him doing something good our people to restore real peace and not fake political peace.We are very wise as Fox and hare than you wild human beings.He don’t to be afraid,we are not going assassinate you but rather will be laughing at you failure.

                Peace is the beginning of redemption from wrong.
                Peace accepted but have to be absolute and not merely.

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            • 11 August 2011 14:09, by Raan

              man koryom,@ti my language,
              look your ward revealed your illiteracy @saying’ So if you need an apology for that then ask the SPLM party and Dr. Riek will do it in behave of the party. that is incorrect,said on behave of the party, not in behave, question,if on behave of party (SPLM/A) it is not specifically for bor but the whole south Sudanese.

              @ti,After several tried by SPLM to convince Nuer to join the movement, Garang send South Sudan war hero William Nyuon to handle the situation, but foolish Nuer coward keep attacking the soldier (SPLM) for no reason, therefore, Nyuon response in retaliation and that was a right thing to do.here are list of first people launch liberation struggle, 1st batch, Samual Gai tut, Gordern koang chuol, bol kur, yichbit, polino matip, kolang deng etc. 2nd batch, abdhalla chuol deng, kuot atem, jul kiir, petergatdet yak, etc. 3rd batch, kirbino kuanyin bol,william nyuon bany arongson arok, elija hon top,mamur mabuto,Gabreal tang ginya, the list goes on, 4th batch, John garang, wani igga, lam akol ajawi, etc.

              A bor man sneak out to village and found a lady almost finish kooking 5km way from bilpam training camps during the struggle, he pick up the whole pot and say were luck since he last two day missing food, he put it on his head though was hot and died of the heat on his head, any the history was long.

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              • 11 August 2011 14:17, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                It is so good that mr Nyagat Riek has confess.

                Thank God that he reveal his wicked oafsh of nassir gangster attitudes so that we will presence them to the court of laws.

                The bad side about this usless and doom apology is that the fat ass Gordon buay is still exasting form his trible doom and ugly dumb uncivilisted towards the great people of Dinkas.
                If you so called fat ass ugly Gordon buay don’t shot up your uncivilist attitudes against the people who libaret nuer out from slaver. than you will be subject to death.

                This apology must first be accepted by military official not maleak Ayuen Ajok only. than to the great people of Bor Dinkas or we will take it as a no to any doom and wicked oaf evilsh from any member of the khartoum_nassir gang apologice.

                Dose dumb fat ass ugly dog so called Gordon buay think that he is batter than nyagat Riek machar or he think that all nuer nyagateen have lower IQ like him?.

                Gordon buay need to make sure that he dose not want to step his wicked foot in South Sudan or he will be subject to his own attitudes.

                Riek machar is a dog and want the dog acknowledge his mistake. that he will be punishe according to the rules of laws.

                I hope this a begining of downfail of nassir gangster group and another doom and wicked foolsh so called lam Akol must also confess his crimes he committed with his gang leader or he will be subject to death in short term?.

                All nassir gangster must stand and say sorry to the SPLA/M too because they murdered alots of SPLA/M officer.

                To those nuer employed by sudantribune. you must be carefull or your website will be shot down in south sudan. do you think that deleting comment here is the good things that you can do? no my friends we can just shot down any time here. so stop your nuer attitudes towards Dinkas. your wicked behaviour has been detected already so stop that work of doom dumbs.
                shame on you greedy nuer nyagateen employeed by poor Sudan Tribune.com..

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                • 11 August 2011 15:53, by Brobo

                  Mr/ Dinka dominate splm

                  you are very stupid man/dinka,how can you Riek is nyagat,Riek is not nyagat dear let me advice you for that, if you are not knowing that,

                  second this Riek is the one who give you this time eliminate other tribes if not Riek you can’t be on the power right.

                  but now Riek his make a mistake to apology, to dinka bor it s very unfortunate for Riek to that,many people in Neur are loses their live,why kiir did not apology,to neur,

                  but for what he did now very good person, he don’t want corruption to open in the country, that is good way for leader think big for is going open,Riek is very understandable person not like dinka leaders,now all of you are saying that is very good Riek his make and apology to dinka bor which very good,and you are not ware that, what did he mean to that apology.

                  Nuer are understandable people/they are respective people honorees,they are quite people they are stupidity thing they are think for their future.

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                  • 11 August 2011 16:41, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                    Brobo
                    what are you talking about? Is that english or nuer language?
                    Go to school. don’t be dumb like your relatives whose their ability is to rebell and loot other ’s porparties.

                    You don’t even know what you are talking abuot.
                    the way you write is shit and cannot be repply back. shame on you uneducated nuer nyagat.
                    it is batter for me to talk to a dog rether than talking to nuer idoit who don’t know anythings.

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                    • 12 August 2011 14:52, by Tom D

                      You first correct your English instead of correcting others Nuer knows english better than Dinka. your are not not in the position of correcting others people in such way. Stupid get your self out of the public channel

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          • 12 August 2011 14:40, by Tom D

            Thanks brother for your good analylical. If Mama Nyadeng left the meeting be Riak, how does it come that Dr Machar appologised in the present of Mama Robeca?

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            • 18 August 2011 10:06, by gatwech hoth loang

              we are very sham for this matter Reik cannot apologies to dinka this is exaggeration from dinka community i believe poeple do thing in the darkness i wuold like say NUER late us not lose our hope from RIEK becouse of this lied from this tribe media

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        • 11 August 2011 15:51, by tongue thinker

          Dear bro!
          the step taken by Riek Machar Teny Dhurgon, is a political move but his apology is not going to be accepted by the Dinka Bor Community. the thousands of Bor killed, looting of properties, raping of women, girls is already a crime against humanity, which means he is going to faced the court of law (International Criminal Court, ICC) whether he like or not.
          secondly, the apology should not based on big boys and girls like Majak Agot, Nyandeng garang De Mabior, Malok Aleng, Makuei Lueth and etc, it was advisable for Dr Riek to give apology to the greater bor of Duk, Twic East and Bor County.
          from Boma, Payam and County Level and the traditional leaders.
          what i have realised from Riek is, he is politically illiterate regardless of his doctorate because toppling a government does not means killing of innocent people.
          thirdly, he has to go back to school in order to understand what politics is, and to see example from other opposition leaders in Africa like Raila Odinga.

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        • 11 August 2011 17:12, by Ahmed Chol

          To Everybody;

          This piece of murky apology should not be ignored. It is a small step in the right direction. It is the beginning of our national healing. Remember that only reconciliation is what brought national harmony in South Africa after the apatheid horror.
          In the beginning, there was no problem between the local population of Nuer and Dinka Bor, the problem was between the leaders and the politicians. And that is what created a mess. In order to clean up this mess, it is the politicians who created it in the first place are the ones that are going to clean it up, so that the general population will feel comfortable with one another.

          To those Nuers who are blaming Garang, you need to ask yourselves this question:

          Why didn’t Garang order all the SPLA (at least the Dinka part of it) with tanks and heavy weapons to destroy all Nuer wherever they were in the South in 1991?
          Only those constantly attacking Bor were repelled and the SPLA was told to stop, though anger people did obscene things in Ayod in 1993. Because Garang knew that the problem was not with little children and old men and women. The problem was with politicians and there was no need to make the Nuer population suffer.

          To those Dinkas who are rejecting Riek apology; ask yourselves this:

          Why did Garang accepted Riek when he returned in 2002 and did not seek revenge?

          Now it is up to Riek to decide whether he has to be remembered for what he destroyed or for what he will built.
          Repairing broken tribal or political alliances is the only viable option for anybody who yearns for a bright south, whether s/he is a politician or ordinary citizens.

          Regarding Gajaak.

          Gajaak people were complete outlaws, they ambush SPLA soldier and kill them just to take guns from them. In one instant they kill SPLA soldiers and took RPG. Nyuon had to plea to them not to ambush and kill SPLA soldiers and those who continue to do so faced justice for killing other people and for acquiring guns illegally. It was not Garang’s fault. You can watch Nyuon addressing the Gaajaak at this link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IugrzArAe10

          Ahmed Chol, whatever begins in anger ends in shame

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          • 11 August 2011 18:09, by Dakkin

            Ahmed Chol,

            ’’So Gaatjaak were outlaws and deserved massacre from Garang!’’

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            • 11 August 2011 20:58, by Ahmed Chol

              @Dakkin
              Garang did not call from the Massacre and destruction of Gaajak. If that was the case, no one would have been left in the village because that community can’t stand against SPLA back then. The SPLA was only after criminals who embrace a barbaric culture of murdering innocent soldiers. Yes those who protected and defend the outlaws were as guilty as the outlaws themselves and deserve punishment. Those fathers whose sons had killed soldiers boasted in the village saying that "gatda ee ce mac noong". Not knowing that the guns were for liberating southerners, not for killing our own brothers.
              Nyuon was the one who went after the outlaws
              and if we are looking for a person to blame, then why don’t we blame Nyuon instead of Garang?

              I am not trying to be tribal, but it is Nuer that has done more destruction to Dinka, Southerners and even greater destruction to themselves around the oil fields in the late 90’s in the course of our struggle. Yet some people back then called it "fighting for freedom", not knowing that it was not your brothers who denied you freedom, it was Arab and that who we were suppose to fight. Anyways, it is time to move forward and think about how we can all live together and build South Sudan to be a better place.

              Ahmed Chol, whatever begins in anger, ends in shame

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              • 12 August 2011 00:08, by Dakkin

                Ahmed Chol,

                Gaatjaak had the right to resist barbaric acts of killings,rape, lootings, forced labour against them by Spla soldiers. Does that make them criminals and warrant massacre against them?

                Nyuon being nuer is not a justification as a soldier executing orders of Garang, on the contrary Riek Machar can not be held accountable for the acts of nuer civilians in southeastern dinka or anywhere.

                No hard feelings though, you are one consistent fellow around

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        • 13 August 2011 17:01, by Cadaai ?o?

          This is message from Dinka Twic East Civil Group. We the Dinka Twic East are not involved in that apology by Vice President Riek Machar. The apology he has done was for Dinka Bor only. Also his apology was a setup by Dinka Bor people who trying to take credits or to discard Dinka Twic East true identity.
          We the Dinka Twic East people, we are still waiting our true apology from Dr. Riek Machar, and it could be done in Panyagor, the headquarter of Twic East County. That’s where the incident of the 1991 occurred. For those people who done know the name of that incident, please it is calls "Southeastern Dinka Massacre or in actuality when it comes to really title based on impacted people. It is calls Dinka Twic East Massacre. Dinka Twic East tribe is different from Dinka Bor. They have different characters and dialects as well. It is true even God (Nhialic) knows it.

          Please be aware that, this website always omits some information inside any message the think is not in there interests. Also the website is owned by Dinka Bor people and Dinka Twic East. That’s why they always ignore or discards our true claims.

          N/B: Dr. John Garang se Mabior is Dinka Twic East. During the movement he was using Dinka Bor for Two reasons:

          (a) Dinka Bor was the one tribe in that region Jonglei that was documented as legitimate tribe there when Garang took over SPLM/A. It was done by intellectuals and scholars who were often driven by these words: nepotism (brotherhood & sisterhood), selfish, ignorant, pride of individual backgrounds and ignorant of other tribes as dominant signs, etc.

          Dinka Twic East is not that small, and also Dinka Bor should be proud about 2009 census as they are more than Dinka Twic East in population.

          We the Dinka Twic East people need government of South Sudan to checks Bor County population for its being divide into two counties.

          Dinka Twic East has three sections: Lith, Ajuong & Pakeer, and Dinka Bor has two sections: Athooc & Gok.

          Truth and History will not be steal from Dinka Twic East.

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      • 11 August 2011 07:36, by man koryom

        Dr. Nyagat, no exceptional. No Presidency for you unless you come back kill all the Dinka Bor. It is impossible too

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        • 11 August 2011 07:51, by Malual Dungdit

          Which presidency are talking about, beacause he already in the presidency as the Vice President of Republic of South Sudan.
          And you stop abusing Dr.Riek because you are very close to the Lou Nuer who can disciplines you. You just use unwriten gossip.

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          • 11 August 2011 14:01, by Marco A. Wek

            Dear Southerners, conciliation and forgiveness is part of lives as human beings. Dinka different clans as well as Nuer different clans fought each other for years and reconcile and forgave each other for years.

            The same was also true for Nuers and Dinkas but few educated members are the ones who made this brotherly differences deadly just to reach power they are hungry for and when their wrong preaching by non educated, it becomes destouriuos.

            Good Sputherners should welcome the apology and shouldn’t be used politically by either side to serve their interests. Dr. Riek accepted the 1991 incident as the leader of that movement and I don’t think it was Riek intention to kill the very people he fought for their rights for many years and whom he wants to lead as he is doing as we speak. What happened in 1991 meant have been caused by some bad apples within his circle that he must have lost control of and we know our people very well.

            Dr. Riek was highly respected by his unit and the overall SPLA before his rebellion but it was the bad apples within his community that robbed him of his respect but that he has shown his willingness to serve his south Sudanese people. Yes Dr. Riek is a Nuer by tribe but he is a national figure that struggled in the past for Southerners and he is now doing due job for the very people.

            Those who are bitter on both sides should change their wrong and unproductive views.

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            • 11 August 2011 14:42, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

              This stupid and son of weak man called hiself Marco A Wek is foolsh and dumb just like his others Bor Dinkas who can just forget wrong things very quick.

              Why are you instigate this stupid and dumbs apology? if your little bran thinking that Riek has apologies?

              Why don’t hime [riek] came out and said it insteed of Malak or you are telling me that the apology delever by malak Ayuen is enought for you to accept?
              Shot up or back off.

              I am not happy with this dumb pology and Malak Ayuen Ajok must be caerfull and distance himself from this wicked apology. this apology must pass through us [generals] who have higher rank malak not maleak. they army is watching carefull.

              It is so good that mr Nyagat Riek has confess.

              Thank God that he reveal his wicked oafsh of nassir gangster attitudes so that we will presence them to the court of laws.

              The bad side about this usless and doom apology is that the fat ass Gordon buay is still exasting form his trible doom and ugly dumb uncivilisted towards the great people of Dinkas.
              If you so called fat ass ugly Gordon buay don’t shot up your uncivilist attitudes against the people who libaret nuer out from slaver. than you will be subject to death.

              This apology must first be accepted by military official not malak Ayuen Ajok only. than to the great people of Bor Dinkas or we will take it as a no to any doom and wicked oaf evilsh from any member of the khartoum_nassir gang apologice.

              Dose dumb fat ass ugly dog so called Gordon buay think that he is batter than nyagat Riek machar or he think that all nuer nyagateen have lower IQ like him?.

              Gordon buay need to make sure that he dose not want to step his wicked foot in South Sudan or he will be subject to his own attitudes.

              Riek machar is a dog and want the dog acknowledge his mistake. that he will be punishe according to the rules of laws.

              I hope this a begining of downfail of nassir gangster group and another doom and wicked foolsh so called lam Akol must also confess his crimes he committed with his gang leader or he will be subject to death in short term?.

              All nassir gangster must stand and say sorry to the SPLA/M too because they murdered alots of SPLA/M officer.

              To those nuer employed by sudantribune. you must be carefull or your website will be shot down in south sudan. do you think that deleting comment here is the good things that you can do? no my friends we can just shot down any time here. so stop your nuer attitudes towards Dinkas. your wicked behaviour has been detected already so stop that work of doom dumbs.
              shame on you greedy nuer nyagateen employeed by poor Sudan Tribune.com..

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          • 13 August 2011 17:02, by Cadaai ?o?

            This is message from Dinka Twic East Civil Group. We the Dinka Twic East are not involved in that apology by Vice President Riek Machar. The apology he has done was for Dinka Bor only. Also his apology was a setup by Dinka Bor people who trying to take credits or to discard Dinka Twic East true identity.
            We the Dinka Twic East people, we are still waiting our true apology from Dr. Riek Machar, and it could be done in Panyagor, the headquarter of Twic East County. That’s where the incident of the 1991 occurred. For those people who done know the name of that incident, please it is calls "Southeastern Dinka Massacre or in actuality when it comes to really title based on impacted people. It is calls Dinka Twic East Massacre. Dinka Twic East tribe is different from Dinka Bor. They have different characters and dialects as well. It is true even God (Nhialic) knows it.

            Please be aware that, this website always omits some information inside any message the think is not in there interests. Also the website is owned by Dinka Bor people and Dinka Twic East. That’s why they always ignore or discards our true claims.

            N/B: Dr. John Garang se Mabior is Dinka Twic East. During the movement he was using Dinka Bor for Two reasons:

            (a) Dinka Bor was the one tribe in that region Jonglei that was documented as legitimate tribe there when Garang took over SPLM/A. It was done by intellectuals and scholars who were often driven by these words: nepotism (brotherhood & sisterhood), selfish, ignorant, pride of individual backgrounds and ignorant of other tribes as dominant signs, etc.

            Dinka Twic East is not that small, and also Dinka Bor should be proud about 2009 census as they are more than Dinka Twic East in population.

            We the Dinka Twic East people need government of South Sudan to checks Bor County population for its being divide into two counties.

            Dinka Twic East has three sections: Lith, Ajuong & Pakeer, and Dinka Bor has two sections: Athooc & Gok.

            Truth and History will not be steal from Dinka Twic East.

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            • 13 August 2011 18:00, by Yak Mayen

              My friend, Cadaai?o?, you are not hiding anything from your citizen men and women, so should you also reveal your real name. Men and women from Twic East know each other; they will recognize you if you give your real name and they may support your message of feuding and some may reject it.

              I would encourage you that you don’t besmear our great name by disseminating what I would call libel message to the public. I have nothing against you but I would like to know who you are among my brothers and sisters of Twic East.

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              • 13 August 2011 23:43, by Cadaai ?o?

                Yak Mayen, I think you are ones of Dinka twic East who become follower of Dinka Bor who are not pure from the same incident.
                That message was from Dinka Twic East Civil Group and the other majority of Dinka Twic East around the world.

                You need to learn thing properly, because this apology was just a setups by Dinka Bor people like Malak Ayuen who needs credits for his tribe of Dinka Bor. I will not go far, because you may not understand those things.

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        • 11 August 2011 08:06, by Deng Bornyang

          I belief it makes sense to apologise for the wrong doing but the question is, is there a substantial evidence indicating that Riek has actually apologised?

          If that is true then, there is also a need for many more other people from within the top splm/a leadership to apologised.

          My advice to my brothers from Dinka Bor community is that you need to be very objective enough if comes the extraction of the truth from the case study. Who ever was invoved in 1991 Bor incident was not targeting civilians rather the army in Bor.

          Finally, we will not conclude by saying, Riek Machar has apologised because he should come on TV himself not Malaak.

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          • 11 August 2011 11:30, by DeltaBravo

            To Deng

            We need to think forward not backward. DR. Riek did a very good move. Going backward will hurt our Nation building. What happened in the past should be forgiven and let by gone be bye gone. I was in the movement during the Civilwar, if i go back to point out what others did to certain Tribes, it may bring us nothing but trouble to our New Nation .Dr. Riek appology is not only to Dinka Bor,but to all the Southerners. We all know a lot of things happened in the past. we need to move forward to build our Country rather then distroying it. We got 57 Tribes all this Tribes where hurt during the Civilwar. Second no one will think of Court here after our VP appologies it mean to move forward. We will not bring 2 million that we lost during the civilwar. But we have to put memorial where we can remember them.

            Please Fellows SOUTHERNERS we need to forgive one another.

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            • 11 August 2011 15:07, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

              This stupid and son of weak man called himself Marco A Wek is foolish and dumb just like his others Bor Dinkas who can just forget wrong things very quick.

              Why are you instigate this stupid and dumbs apology? If your little bran thinking that Riek has apologies?

              Why don’t him [Riek] came out and said it instead of Malak or you are telling me that the apology delivery by Malak Ayuen is enough for you to accept?
              Shot up or back off.

              I am not happy with this dumb apology and Malak Ayuen Ajok must be careful and distance himself from this wicked apology. This apology must pass through us [generals] who have higher rank Malak not Malak. They army is watching carefully.

              It is so good that Mr Negate Riek has confessed.

              Thank God that he reveal his wicked oafish of Nassir gangster attitudes so that we will presence them to the court of laws.

              The bad side about this useless and doom apology is that the fat ass Gordon buay is still existing form his tribal doom and ugly dumb uncivilised towards the great people of Dinkas.
              If you so called fat ass ugly Gordon buay don’t shot up your uncivilized attitudes against the people who liberate Nuer out from slaver than you will be subject to death.

              This apology must first be accepted by military official not Malak Ayuen Ajok only. Than to the great people of Bor Dinkas or we will take it as a no to any doom and wicked oaf evils from any member of the khartoum_nassir gang apologize.

              Dose dumb fat ass ugly dog so called Gordon buay think that he is better than negate Riek machar or he think that all Nuer nyagateen have lower IQ like him?.

              Gordon buay need to make sure that he does not want to step his wicked foot in South Sudan or he will be subject to his own attitudes.

              Riek machar is a dog and want the dog acknowledge his mistake. that he will be punished according to the rules of laws.

              I hope this a beginning of downfall of Nassir gangster group and another doom and wicked foolish so called lam Akol must also confess his crimes he committed with his gang leader or he will be subject to death in short term?.

              All Nassir gangster must stand and say sorry to the SPLA/M too because they murdered a lots of SPLA/M officer.

              To those Nuer employed by Sudan tribune you must be careful or your website will be shot down in south Sudan. do you think that deleting comment here is the good things that you can do? no my friends we can just shot down any time here. so stop your Nuer attitudes towards Dinkas. your wicked behaviour has been detected already so stop that work of doom dumbs.
              shame on you greedy Nuer nyagateen employed by poor Sudan Tribune.com..

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              • 11 August 2011 23:31, by Marco A. Wek

                You the Kakuma Refugee Camp primary graduate called Dinka dominated ration, you know where Dr. Reik Machar is but since you are a website barking she dog, you will also bark only at his shadow while you are bending your tail towards your behind which is what you are good at and keep doing that she DOG.

                If you want tell me and others that you are not a she DOG graduate of Kakuma Refugee Camp, then going and attack Dr. Riek Machar rather than barking all the time Riek Riek Riek. And as for you she Dog Kakuma graduate calling me Bor, there is nothing wrong with being from Bor or Nuer as you she dog switch me around from time to time but I can tell you I am from Bahr El Ghazal but a she dog like whose identity is not known does not deserve talking to since all you know barking like a DOG you are.

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              • 13 August 2011 17:03, by Cadaai ?o?

                This is message from Dinka Twic East Civil Group. We the Dinka Twic East are not involved in that apology by Vice President Riek Machar. The apology he has done was for Dinka Bor only. Also his apology was a setup by Dinka Bor people who trying to take credits or to discard Dinka Twic East true identity.
                We the Dinka Twic East people, we are still waiting our true apology from Dr. Riek Machar, and it could be done in Panyagor, the headquarter of Twic East County. That’s where the incident of the 1991 occurred. For those people who done know the name of that incident, please it is calls "Southeastern Dinka Massacre or in actuality when it comes to really title based on impacted people. It is calls Dinka Twic East Massacre. Dinka Twic East tribe is different from Dinka Bor. They have different characters and dialects as well. It is true even God (Nhialic) knows it.

                Please be aware that, this website always omits some information inside any message the think is not in there interests. Also the website is owned by Dinka Bor people and Dinka Twic East. That’s why they always ignore or discards our true claims.

                N/B: Dr. John Garang se Mabior is Dinka Twic East. During the movement he was using Dinka Bor for Two reasons:

                (a) Dinka Bor was the one tribe in that region Jonglei that was documented as legitimate tribe there when Garang took over SPLM/A. It was done by intellectuals and scholars who were often driven by these words: nepotism (brotherhood & sisterhood), selfish, ignorant, pride of individual backgrounds and ignorant of other tribes as dominant signs, etc.

                Dinka Twic East is not that small, and also Dinka Bor should be proud about 2009 census as they are more than Dinka Twic East in population.

                We the Dinka Twic East people need government of South Sudan to checks Bor County population for its being divide into two counties.

                Dinka Twic East has three sections: Lith, Ajuong & Pakeer, and Dinka Bor has two sections: Athooc & Gok.

                Truth and History will not be steal from Dinka Twic East.

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        • 11 August 2011 09:27, by Raan

          MINDUD&MAN KORYAM

          I am sure you demand bundle of money from VP because all bor lineup from machar doorstep to the office reason why you talk or behave illiteracy,go and quies or ask you be given. my question is are bor bordering lou Nuer? if so please’ utilize this apology before lou Nuer heard of your reaction against or to it, Lou Nuer are ready to visit bor no matter Dr riek apology and what soever, this is not Dr riek case against bor, it is about civilian lou- jikany- gaatjaak massacre against masterminded(Garang mabor) bor army men assault against Gaatjaak in 1985 January-june manjangdit and liatnyaruach, lolgungjang-1986 January- july,makuach luthchuor, dorong, mangok, loldeng, e,t,c.

          We Demand apology from bor leadership all with exception of Majak de-agot the National leader of all jinubin, if not so your mess of 1985 shall then be upon Garang and we shall repeat the marathons to know the winner among us(lou&bor) please’ accept my requests bor.

          lul gatkuoth mother were kill by Garang in thiajak I wonder what reason accepting apology to bor at saying it is a political strategies, what make them specialist than the others, we are ready for any even toward bor if soon not apologize to Gaatjaak killing of 1985, I am victim of 1985 burn in side the tugle (house)

          Gaatjaak are awaiting the formation soon to announce

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          • 11 August 2011 16:02, by Zeki

            There is a posibility for Dr.Riek to rule as president of RSS, if S.Sudanese need 2nd right person.

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            • 11 August 2011 16:26, by Brobo

              he will be the president of later if they don’t know let we a sure them for what is there in Constitution of law of south Sudan, by all mean Riek be the president either you like it /you don’t like it.

              thank let we hop that.

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          • 11 August 2011 18:22, by Kay-Shield

            It’s a pleasure to everyone who is from Southern Sudan to hear the Nasir Faction leader who murdered Bor people in large quantity has finally confessed his stupid act to the people of Southern Sudan in the broad day light. Therefore, it shall be used against him in the court of law soon to care out investigation of all the crime committed against humanity during the darkest days of our struggle. I personally think that Mr Risk apology goes to the people of Southern Sudan but not Bor community reason being, is that; if he meant his apology for the people of Bor who were affected badly by his defection, then he should have gone to the grass root level and started his apology there in the company of those of Nyandeng whom he lured and later to Juba. We people of Bor doesn’t consider those of Nyandeng as Bor property but rather Country’s property, anything at the country level should be answer by them but not something to do with the counties of Bor. Mr Risky Machar should first apologize to common man there on the ground than follow by those of Nyandeng because he want to buy votes from them by apologizing to them otherwise, diplomats from Bor may compromise with him by not taking him to the ICC but would not advise people to vote for him because becoming a president is what he is dying for. For that matter, I called it Hypocrisy and no room for it unless this stupid food loving dude go to our villages and say whatever thing he want to say while local people would be looking at his mouth opening and closing.

            To those high ranking profile guys from Bor, if Risky Machar apologizes to the people of Southern Sudan, then who else would be the first guys to well come his Apology?? Isn’t you?? If yes, then why do you behave idiotic this way or you simply want to show to the world that you are good at betrayal?? Then if that is the case, we will also charge you because you may be criminal like him!! For your information, this is the right time for Bor illiterates to express their anger against this man so that he or any other person who treats Bor Community as Minority and doesn’t respect it may learn a lesson. Send him there if he want to be forgiven.

            To Ran
            You are absolutely like your father who didn’t know how to think intellectually and turned the will of Machar into crime against humanity. Man, for Dinka Bor officials to apologize to Lou, Gikany or any other sub-tribe from Nuer is very impossible. No minded Dinka Bor can ever do that because they are seeking for revenge against Risk Machar politically. Hence I have accepted your request to attack Bor this time!! So come on Gangs you start it anywhere you like within Bor. Everyday, I adds new criminal into the book of records and in next years to come many of Militias will be interrogated by ICC if you don’t late risky alone. This vice president is a criminal and must answer everything count on him first before we forgive him.

            Small In Size But Sound Louder

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        • 11 August 2011 16:13, by Brobo

          dear bro,

          sorry brother,I can not blame you anyway, you are not knowing say,Rier is just for giving you, because our country it just get independent in lase one month ago and the corruption is going to open,he can not accept that.

          thank seem like all dinkas are stupidity people.

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      • 11 August 2011 14:28, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

        am not happy with this dumb pology and Malak Ayuen Ajok must be caerfull and distance himself from this wicked apology. this apology must pass through us [generals] who have higher rank malak not maleak. they army is watching carefull.

        It is so good that mr Nyagat Riek has confess.

        Thank God that he reveal his wicked oafsh of nassir gangster attitudes so that we will presence them to the court of laws.

        The bad side about this usless and doom apology is that the fat ass Gordon buay is still exasting form his trible doom and ugly dumb uncivilisted towards the great people of Dinkas.
        If you so called fat ass ugly Gordon buay don’t shot up your uncivilist attitudes against the people who libaret nuer out from slaver. than you will be subject to death.

        This apology must first be accepted by military official not malak Ayuen Ajok only. than to the great people of Bor Dinkas or we will take it as a no to any doom and wicked oaf evilsh from any member of the khartoum_nassir gang apologice.

        Dose dumb fat ass ugly dog so called Gordon buay think that he is batter than nyagat Riek machar or he think that all nuer nyagateen have lower IQ like him?.

        Gordon buay need to make sure that he dose not want to step his wicked foot in South Sudan or he will be subject to his own attitudes.

        Riek machar is a dog and want the dog acknowledge his mistake. that he will be punishe according to the rules of laws.

        I hope this a begining of downfail of nassir gangster group and another doom and wicked foolsh so called lam Akol must also confess his crimes he committed with his gang leader or he will be subject to death in short term?.

        All nassir gangster must stand and say sorry to the SPLA/M too because they murdered alots of SPLA/M officer.

        To those nuer employed by sudantribune. you must be carefull or your website will be shot down in south sudan. do you think that deleting comment here is the good things that you can do? no my friends we can just shot down any time here. so stop your nuer attitudes towards Dinkas. your wicked behaviour has been detected already so stop that work of doom dumbs.
        shame on you greedy nuer nyagateen employeed by poor Sudan Tribune.com..

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      • 12 August 2011 07:00, by superior Junibi

        Well, Dinka Bor Are fools:

        Your Dumb Dr. Garang accepted Dr. Riek to Join him after that outrageous genocide but didnt kill Riek. What a shame!!! Dr Riek himself with the help of Barelgazal thugs or Separatist later killed Dr Garang. So shut the fuck up and live your life.

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      • 13 August 2011 17:01, by Cadaai ?o?

        This is message from Dinka Twic East Civil Group. We the Dinka Twic East are not involved in that apology by Vice President Riek Machar. The apology he has done was for Dinka Bor only. Also his apology was a setup by Dinka Bor people who trying to take credits or to discard Dinka Twic East true identity.
        We the Dinka Twic East people, we are still waiting our true apology from Dr. Riek Machar, and it could be done in Panyagor, the headquarter of Twic East County. That’s where the incident of the 1991 occurred. For those people who done know the name of that incident, please it is calls "Southeastern Dinka Massacre or in actuality when it comes to really title based on impacted people. It is calls Dinka Twic East Massacre. Dinka Twic East tribe is different from Dinka Bor. They have different characters and dialects as well. It is true even God (Nhialic) knows it.

        Please be aware that, this website always omits some information inside any message the think is not in there interests. Also the website is owned by Dinka Bor people and Dinka Twic East. That’s why they always ignore or discards our true claims.

        N/B: Dr. John Garang se Mabior is Dinka Twic East. During the movement he was using Dinka Bor for Two reasons:

        (a) Dinka Bor was the one tribe in that region Jonglei that was documented as legitimate tribe there when Garang took over SPLM/A. It was done by intellectuals and scholars who were often driven by these words: nepotism (brotherhood & sisterhood), selfish, ignorant, pride of individual backgrounds and ignorant of other tribes as dominant signs, etc.

        Dinka Twic East is not that small, and also Dinka Bor should be proud about 2009 census as they are more than Dinka Twic East in population.

        We the Dinka Twic East people need government of South Sudan to checks Bor County population for its being divide into two counties.

        Dinka Twic East has three sections: Lith, Ajuong & Pakeer, and Dinka Bor has two sections: Athooc & Gok.

        Truth and History will not be steal from Dinka Twic East.

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    • 11 August 2011 07:33, by Kon Ajith Deng

      If Vice president Dr.Riak Machar has apologised to Dinka Bor for what he has done in 1991,I think there is something wrong with in Dr.Machar,he is reducing himself from Dr.to level zero, that incident had hapenned to any community in the South Sudan,not Dinka Bor only,also Mr.president must to apology to Nuer community for Lou-Nuer and Fangakpanjak] incidence,and shilluk community for Dur,Oweci and pachoda incident,if this apology came from your heart,then we are in mess,there is no difference between you and president,and we are ruling by two dogs in the Republic of South Sudan.

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      • 11 August 2011 07:39, by Akibon

        Kon Ajith(Gatwech Tut),

        A dog is never known by its owner that he is helpless and uncouth until he defecated right into its owner’s dinner table.
        Thus, don’t be surprised by Machar’s apology.

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      • 11 August 2011 11:24, by kuac Agol

        @Kon Ajiith.
        You should learn to know who can make mistake and who can not make mistake and whether he/she could apologise for the mistake he/she is responsible for it , regardless of his /her education status.

        A doctor like your God Riek could make mistake and can apologise for it and should be taken to court like other culprits who are not educated.

        Your Boss has lost his credibility in the government of south Sudan already,he is not hundred percent respected like other.

        His being vice president does not mean what he has done to the people of south sudan are not recorded or remembered, he must report himself to the court of justice or ICC.

        Kon hen or whatever they called you, your support to Riak Machar is too little for you to help but if you are really a true Southernes who witnessed the massacre which was done by your Riak and his Nuer men who can not be in the position of supporting him now aday.

        The international media have recorded some videos of the massacre caused by Riak and kept them in the world Archive for references, don,t you know that. I will later send you the video named Riak Machar Massacre in Bor.

        you are putting yourself under the big weigh of politic which you could not be able to carry,otherwise you will find yourself in court together with him.

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    • 11 August 2011 08:08, by John Williamson

      I have never heard of an organized genocide attack by Dinka Bor to the Nuer Jikany in 1980s, may be SPLA (Anyanya) has to be blamed, if any really happened . And for those Nuer who think Dr.Riek’s apology is not due and worthy, they should not waste their times saving the SPLM the stabbed at the back,instead they should re-form SPLM Nassir/SSIM and have its vision achieved by the Southerne as did the SPLM-Torit.

      Inspite of this, it may be easy to forgive but hard to forget, Dr.machar has taken a courageous step toward national reconciliation however, the ball remains with Dinka Bor to accept his apology or take him to ICC for a fair trial.

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    • 11 August 2011 08:15, by Michael Madit Magot

      Dear Machar,

      First and foremost, I would like to say that your apology is welcomed as a stepping stone to re-igniting trust,respect and peace in ourselves as one family and colleagues in our primate world.
      It took a giant mind and courage to accept to shoulder one’s responsibility which some irrational beings may shiver and shy away from accommodating it.

      Your apology came at the appropriate time whereby hearts are also ardent with hope and understanding which only few had during those tragic incidents of the civil war.
      You have just shown to the masses that acknowledging an error is the formula to unravelling the cruxs of unforeseen future.
      Though we inflicted untold grievances to ourselves during the war, we didn’t loss sight of the fact that we had an enormous aim and goal that surmount human losses and that is the right to own our land and freedom.
      Thus, I deeply salute you with my utmost sympathy and confident that you have the willpower to deliver on our land’s progress.
      Some may kick, mock or maim you emotionally due to your courage to apologise but the wises will not see you as a coward.
      We know we can not bring back the deads but an apology sooth the heart and develop a sense of humanity in the victims.
      This loss was not only inflicted on just the Dinka Bor but it has taken hundred of lives in Nuer land too and they are accommodated in this undertaking.

      Now the most gift that can compensate this tragedy is for you to work hard and double your effort in developing our country.
      They died but they have not died in vain because their ultimate sacrifice has been achieved in our newly born Nation.

      Cheeeeeeeeeers!!! Stay blessed!

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    • 11 August 2011 08:47, by mediing mut

      There is no reason for Dr. Machar to apology to Dinka Bor s’ community only, because of the 1991 war. This war was not weight on the civilian by any one of the both leaders, either Riek or Garang. It was retaliated between their forces and to defend one s’ principle.
      Therefore, White solider (Jiech in Boor) from Nuer community attack dinka Bor civilians without Dr. Machar s’ consent. This white solider from Nuer assume that, if two leaders from both different tribes rush in to war, it is tribal war. And that is why it is not right full for Machar to apology to one community as his own fault. Therefore, Splma in general should have had express his failure leader, to the people of Southern Sudan community.

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    • 11 August 2011 09:45, by Ariec Path wol

      Thank Dr. Riak for doing that but remember you were corrected when you called for the independent of South Sudan which would have shorten the struggle long time ago.

      I see why people reacted to the apology that you make

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      • 12 August 2011 10:29, by Deng Gau

        Dear Ariec,
        In the political world of negotiation, if you want to attain a cow you should claim an elephant on the table or in the gorrilla war, than you get a cow. But if you claim a cow then, surely you will attain the goat.

        So if we were fighting for only South, we would have not attract international support.
        And self determinatination would have not been achieved.

        Any way the Apology of Dr. Riek is a possitive move to the renewal of his Natinalism, and a new page towards a new creative nation.

        Nassir defection and genocide committed by Riek and his followers that time was a shock to the South Sudanese in General.
        So Riek’s appology is important at this time, i urge all those who committed mistakes to follow Riek in same way.

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    • 11 August 2011 11:03, by Bonaparte Lal Wieu

      Dr. Riek Machar should not apologize to Dinka Bor alone if he meant the really apology which I know but should apologizes to all Dinka community especially Dinka Apadang in both Upper Nile State and Jonglei State
      Because they are the people who were first affected by his action or rebellion of 1991 before it spread into all of the region.
      So if he is to apologize he should apologize to all of Dinka community. Greater Upper Nile and the whole of South Sudan which was affected by his action not one community

      And thsnks
      Bonaparte Monychiek

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    • 11 August 2011 11:35, by Bonaparte Lal Wieu

      Dr. Riek Machar should not apologize to Dinka Bor alone if he meant the really apology which I know but should apologizes to all Dinka community especially Dinka Apadang in both Upper Nile State and Jonglei State
      Because they are the people who were first affected by his action or rebellion of 1991 before it spread into all of the region.
      So if he is to apologize he should apologize to all of Dinka community. Greater Upper Nile and the whole of South Sudan which was affected by his action not one community

      And thsnks
      Bonaparte Monychiek

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    • 11 August 2011 12:01, by Sala Gai

      It’s good for him to apologised to Dinka Bor Community

      But what his apologised base on hunting of the vote from Bor Community which he had make genocide before, No matter the case should hell by almighty who is the creator of the earth,

      The Community whom Vice President Riak Machar commit genocide should have to accept and vote to him because, He was trying to take over the power from greater son of Bor John Garang and there were no an other alternative to weaken leader John Garang only to go and commits genocide against the leader people.

      We South Sudanese had welcome your apologised Mr. Second President Raik Machar to come.

      And Why did you reason-less action make your people before aim was to be leader?

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    • 11 August 2011 12:45, by Ayuen deng

      its too late to make that apology to Bor community,you should have done it during your own occassion organize to reconcile this two community about past foregiveness.

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    • 11 August 2011 14:26, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

      I am not happy with this dumb pology and Malak Ayuen Ajok must be caerfull and distance himself from this wicked apology. this apology must pass through us [generals] who have higher rank malak not maleak. they army is watching carefull.

      It is so good that mr Nyagat Riek has confess.

      Thank God that he reveal his wicked oafsh of nassir gangster attitudes so that we will presence them to the court of laws.

      The bad side about this usless and doom apology is that the fat ass Gordon buay is still exasting form his trible doom and ugly dumb uncivilisted towards the great people of Dinkas.
      If you so called fat ass ugly Gordon buay don’t shot up your uncivilist attitudes against the people who libaret nuer out from slaver. than you will be subject to death.

      This apology must first be accepted by military official not malak Ayuen Ajok only. than to the great people of Bor Dinkas or we will take it as a no to any doom and wicked oaf evilsh from any member of the khartoum_nassir gang apologice.

      Dose dumb fat ass ugly dog so called Gordon buay think that he is batter than nyagat Riek machar or he think that all nuer nyagateen have lower IQ like him?.

      Gordon buay need to make sure that he dose not want to step his wicked foot in South Sudan or he will be subject to his own attitudes.

      Riek machar is a dog and want the dog acknowledge his mistake. that he will be punishe according to the rules of laws.

      I hope this a begining of downfail of nassir gangster group and another doom and wicked foolsh so called lam Akol must also confess his crimes he committed with his gang leader or he will be subject to death in short term?.

      All nassir gangster must stand and say sorry to the SPLA/M too because they murdered alots of SPLA/M officer.

      To those nuer employed by sudantribune. you must be carefull or your website will be shot down in south sudan. do you think that deleting comment here is the good things that you can do? no my friends we can just shot down any time here. so stop your nuer attitudes towards Dinkas. your wicked behaviour has been detected already so stop that work of doom dumbs.
      shame on you greedy nuer nyagateen employeed by poor Sudan Tribune.com..

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      • 12 August 2011 11:11, by Tom D

        Hi Mr stupid general, Are you really fit to be in that position? It’s the first time and very unfortunate for a general to talk poolishly like this. Don’t you know that Gunde Irag has come back to fuck you out from the mess Military activities that you committed against civilian?

        I don’t see the reason why Military guntas (Officers) are behaving like this. Are yuo really going to protect the people of South Sudan from the foreign aggression in such levels drunk,looting,corruption and bride killing?

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      • 13 August 2011 03:03, by dingdong

        Stupid dincadominate

        Dr. Riak was not apologies to South Sudanese people in which your stupid thinking is always goes after nuer or naath people.Because you’re stupid enough,majority of south sudanese people here on this web would not tell you bring irrelevant of military to accepted Dr.Riak’s apology. If you don’t know what specific means, well then you’re the dumpbest person in South Sudan. This apology is only goes specifically to the people of dinka bor, not all dinka as you may idiotically think it

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    • 11 August 2011 14:54, by tongue thinker

      dear brothers and sisters!
      I was really perturbed when i heard Dr Riek Machar Teny giving apology to dinka Bor community about the 1991 genocide in bor. it is well stated that, nothing beyond apology but what he did is beyond apology because toppling the government does not mean killing of civilians. so if I were Dr Riek Machar, i would have planned for a trick of overthrowing Garang’s government but not killing his people. the work done was zero!! believe me or not.

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    • 11 August 2011 15:24, by Ariec Path wol

      Dr. Machar is a human being just like any one of you here in South Sudan he can make mistake any time and he can correct himself at any time simply.

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    • 11 August 2011 16:17, by modi Losombek

      Please let’s accept any apology from our Leader like V.P. Dr. Riek Machar who honestly apologized to his people of South Sudan especially Dinka Bor Community.

      This is good spirit which all our leaders are supposed to have to the people of South Sudan.

      Let’s not be be like MINDED.DUDE who is stupid enough by insulting his leader. Accept like yourself God teaches us that. Thanks and God bless you.

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    • 11 August 2011 22:12, by belle loboi

      Dr. Machar should not apologized to Dinka community because Dr Garang never apologized to the Naath Nuer Community death. Kiir apologized should apologized for killing of Nuer community in 1991 as well. Dinka Bor are always complaining for nothing because everyone suffered during the war in South Sudan. Kuol manyang should immediately apologized to the Nuer community as well. SPLA led by Garang killed a lot of Nuer in 1991 in Equatoria region,so i think everyone need to apologized to everyone in South Sudan.

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    • 12 August 2011 07:04, by superior Junibi

      Well, Dinka Bor Are fools:

      Your Dumb Dr. Garang accepted Dr. Riek to Join him after that outrageous genocide he committed in 1991. Dr riek could have been dealed with and replaced with some good nuers.However, he didnt kill Riek. What a shame!!! Dr Riek himself with the help of Barelgazal thugs or Separatist later killed Dr Garang. So shut the fuck up and live your life

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    • 12 August 2011 07:26, by daniell

      To me, Riek Machar is protected under RSS amnesty issued by President Kiir.Let us assume Riek Machar still in the bush killing people mercilessly as happened in Bor And the president issued the amnesty as he did. What would happen?? Off course he would be allowed into RSS community like any rebel leader whose amnesty was issued for them. I know this is mind bellowing to those who lost their love one but unfortunately we CAN NOT fixed the past. This idea of who should and shouldn’t be sent to ICCC after amnesty is something very entangles.
      Where should we draw the line if we can go back and judge the past? Again, who should and shouldn’t be sent to ICCC? Let alone the COST multiple by the numbers of guilty or not guilty be.

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    • 12 August 2011 09:57, by spla

      I was really shock for the recent apologized from vice president of the republic of Southsudan,In Juba this week between him and Bor community during his forces killed hundred of innocence civilian of Bor community in the ninths , But ido not understand from Nuer people why they,re still killing their own bloods in the southsudan? what the should know very clear is that Nuer are leaderless to the SouthSudanese they kill their own people and later on they came back and make an apologized with no reason what they fought fore like this leaders in Nuer community Machar ,Taban,Matuip and Gatdate did it twice and more. this massage is to whole people of Southsudan that there are some small groups of people, mainly the Nuer who are still slaves of the Arabs and kill their own people for nothing. Gatluak Gai is already got, Gatdate in Juba and Riak is too apologist for his own stupid politics against sub-community because they are using the sslm/a as a tool to cause weakness to the south sudan government. I do not understand clearly what is really in the minds of the whole Nuer people dirty politics without reasonable to the people of the Southsudan - they seem to be Bigots. There is no culture in the world like the one of the Nuer i kept telling people all the time that what Nuer knows is only fighting and looting that is it. but they are not politician First of all, the Nuer had to ask themselves some questions at this time if they really have common sense that: who are we what leadership do we need in the Gov, of the Southsudan? therefore, in this time Bor community have a right to take Machar to criminal court at this time and he can not deny any things again he did its and he excepted its already. if Nuer really have common sense they should have advised Machar not to made an apology to one community but to whole the people of the republic of Southsudan Ithought the Nuer would chang their minds at this time of the Southern government, It is not good to Machar to made mistake again like the way he killed his own brothers and sisters before, this is a time of development. i thought Machar was a politician, but now he is not he just with the ridiculous message to people again.

      your truly Pand

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    • 12 August 2011 10:21, by Kur William

      Look at this fool Nuer community the apology of Riak Machar is really amazing to Dinka Bor community entirly and it is alos welcome by the whole of Southern Sudanese people.I don,t think that Dinka Bor community are going to use this apology against Riak Machar in future to assure Nuer commmunity that no doubt that Riak Machar has comitted atrocities in Dinka Bor Community in 1991.

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    • 12 August 2011 10:38, by Tom D

      Thanks Mr X for your notorios ideology toward the wellcomiing appology of VIP Dr Machar.Let me advice you guys, let us not sort back the past things that will difinately take us back to the war. Dr machar did not appologized to Dinka Bor Community publicly as many of quoted out, it’s the consense of what i would called Public media invited war channel which was created by SPLA head of information Mr Malak Ayuen of Dinka Bor. If we talk about 1991 incident that lost the lives of many people under the leadership of Machar as Dinka Bor claimed,we the writers should ask the question that How many lives have been lost from differents tribes under the leadership of late Dr Garang and others Dinkas leaders? i do believe that Dr Machar can not take such decision otherwise, we would have not be part of that decision.

      Tom D

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    • 13 August 2011 17:00, by Cadaai ?o?

      This is message from Dinka Twic East Civil Group. We the Dinka Twic East are not involved in that apology by Vice President Riek Machar. The apology he has done was for Dinka Bor only. Also his apology was a setup by Dinka Bor people who trying to take credits or to discard Dinka Twic East true identity.
      We the Dinka Twic East people, we are still waiting our true apology from Dr. Riek Machar, and it could be done in Panyagor, the headquarter of Twic East County. That’s where the incident of the 1991 occurred. For those people who done know the name of that incident, please it is calls "Southeastern Dinka Massacre or in actuality when it comes to really title based on impacted people. It is calls Dinka Twic East Massacre. Dinka Twic East tribe is different from Dinka Bor. They have different characters and dialects as well. It is true even God (Nhialic) knows it.

      Please be aware that, this website always omits some information inside any message the think is not in there interests. Also the website is owned by Dinka Bor people and Dinka Twic East. That’s why they always ignore or discards our true claims.

      N/B: Dr. John Garang se Mabior is Dinka Twic East. During the movement he was using Dinka Bor for Two reasons:

      (a) Dinka Bor was the one tribe in that region Jonglei that was documented as legitimate tribe there when Garang took over SPLM/A. It was done by intellectuals and scholars who were often driven by these words: nepotism (brotherhood & sisterhood), selfish, ignorant, pride of individual backgrounds and ignorant of other tribes as dominant signs, etc.

      Dinka Twic East is not that small, and also Dinka Bor should be proud about 2009 census as they are more than Dinka Twic East in population.

      We the Dinka Twic East people need government of South Sudan to checks Bor County population for its being divide into two counties.

      Dinka Twic East has three sections: Lith, Ajuong & Pakeer, and Dinka Bor has two sections: Athooc & Gok.

      Truth and History will not be steal from Dinka Twic East.

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  • 11 August 2011 06:44, by MADIT MAJAK CHOL

    I was wondering why took Mr. Vice President Riek Machar for all this years to apologized to Dinka Bor community? Why now?

    I hope my Dinka Bor brothers and sisters will find in their heart to forgive our Vice President of Republic of South Sudan for what he did in 1991 we need to follow the road map of our late leader Dr. John Garang, because he is a man of peace and forgiveness.

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    • 11 August 2011 06:51, by MINDED.DUDE

      Dinka Bor people need to apologoze to the following communities also:
      1-Didinga
      2-toposa
      3-Lokoro/pari.
      4-mundari.

      So, if they dont apologize then Aluta continua....

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      • 11 August 2011 09:38, by Gabriel KK

        Hi Dude,
        Dinka Bor have done nothing wrong to the communities you have just mentioned in your message and if you are sure of what you are talking about then you have to come foreward with details of the crime committed. Secondly, Riek Machar appology is not the answer to his crime aganist Bor Community and people of South Sudan at large. The only solution to this crime is the ICC so that he can spent his remaining years in jail becuase he is a criminal.

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      • 11 August 2011 13:01, by panda

        Hi minded
        what do you mean by dinka bor should apologies for the communities you have just mention,I think if you are from those communities then your word has no room in our society.One things you should remember is that SPLA/SPLAM was not belong to dinka bor, does mean if Garang was spla leader and he come from bor, therefore the spla belong to bor people it does not work that way,if your are really someone who have gone school or have little education you should not thinks like that,Dinka bor are not going to apologies to any community because spla belong to all south sudan people,and on other hand particular Garang has spla leader didnot army any particular community and go againt other community,if any things happended during the war time it will be counted to spla.To those communities you were talking about didnot participant during war time their job was to ambush they spla solidier and killed them and spla solidier were not dinka bor,they have paid the price for what they have done and you people think it dinka bor

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      • 11 August 2011 21:02, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

        ICC does not suit to Sudan problem.

        SPLA soldiers were not from Dinka Bor Army.
        It was the wholes southern Majority people hold on up today.

        I think there is no one fit the Court of ICC as many of you are wandering to happen. From now on ward when the law is implemented, there will be a good suit Court to anyone. We need our own court in Sudan that will fit the the reality of what is happening on the ground.

        Nuer does not listen to Riek either; they are not lawful by themselves. Their NgunDeng drive them to where they will fall. Nuer warlords are responsible for civilians killing alway.

        Nguetbuny

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  • 11 August 2011 07:00, by JAMES KUOI STEPHEN

    I appreciated Dr.Riak Machar on his confession and admitting that he had gone through it, and apologies for condition, of Southern Sudan and leaders that will say some words or advice to Bor Community now and the future.
    Iam not Bor, but we and I have forgive our bros, Dr.Riak Machar Tony.
    External problem are the most concern to us, let’s put our attention to its,as the whole South Sudan. Don’t make enemies to be rich for our oils oncemore,stop that ranning pipline and construct the new pipline at any place in Eastern Africa.

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  • 11 August 2011 07:12, by Aleu

    Dr. Riek Machar Teny apology too late and too little.

    The people from Nuers thinks Dr. Riek did good things for them however, the fection of Riek Machar Teny had damaged both sides Dinka and the Nuer. If the SPLM was an organization from the Western governments, Dr. Riek would have been jail for 100 years without any doubt.

    Well, our people are so foolish for some time, the criminal in Africa seem to get away with murder innocents people because there are people always defending the one did many crimes and the good example is Dr, Riek Machar Teny.

    The real question is that, what make him to take long time since he had came back to join the SPLA/SPLM.? It is undeniable that, Dr. Riek Machar Teny was just desperately for leadership but he doesn’t care about humanity.

    Gordon Buay is just a tribalism guy who have bee posting nonesense. His narrow mind couldn’t help his family leave about South Sudan level. Most of them want to do same story so that, they will get V.P. just like Dr. Riek Machar Teny unfortunately, that style wouldn’t work any more in South Sudan.

    Yes, Mr, V.P. this is what you supposed to say during the time you came back to join the SPLA/SPLM which you murder some in 11 years of Nasir date back to your history. The whole Dinka have forgiving you although we lost many thousand civilians and more SPLA just because of your politicial interest. Invaded Bor communities and killing hundred of thousand civilians was unacceptable but the good thing SPLA made that achievement so feel free to lead the remaining Dinkas from your murdered in 1991.

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    • 11 August 2011 07:44, by Lokorai

      Thanks Mr. true president a leader Dr. Riek Machar for that big heart! Great indeed

      Lokorai

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    • 11 August 2011 09:06, by Abu sala

      New Nation...new step everyday single day.....
      My God i almost cry when i saw this, it has devasted the whole of South Sudan (1991 rebellion). to everyone who don’t it...........
      RECONCILLATION .....RECONCILLATION...........RERECONCILLATION just began let every one(s) MURDERERS, RAPIST, AND LOOTERS confess this your last chance to let it out. it never been too late to hear this. this is not an apology to Dinka Bor only.......Even Dinka Bor need no apology it will not help them of anythings.... some families no one else left as the result of 1991 war, will they get compensation no they will not, so apology is not for Dinka Bor as you people thinks. it is a great move by the Vice president of South Sudan to confess and reconcilled. and my message all tribalist writer you need to confess because it apart of distruction of the new nation. Please South Sudanese have peace and let reconcilled. past is past and future of all Nuer or whoever. know body can force in the rule of law

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  • 11 August 2011 07:16, by Luke Chuol

    Dr Machar is a Fool Man who has no future from Nuer community any more. He has to apologies to many Nuer who died for his cause too

    What a fool and idiot guy he has been known as a champion of self-determination and has just apologise like that the question is to who exactly?

    Luke

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    • 11 August 2011 07:58, by Malual Dungdit

      Luke Chuol, why are you abusing? Dr. Riek does not need to apologise to either Nuer or Dinka for he fought a objective war of right to self determination of the South.

      Those who died remained heroes and were part of the 30th July celebration

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    • 11 August 2011 12:29, by Mony de Jang

      Mr. Luke Chuol;

      With you being a bitter Nuer about what your leader did, I want to assure you that not only him is fool in your community but the entire community. Imagine accussing Dinkas of illitracy daily on this web together with some Equatorians. Here, I am going to base my point on this repeated baseless accusation and not on whatever Riek was quoted to have confessed.

      First; a message to Nuer.

      It is absordous to refer to Dinkas as illitrates. Your claim is anyway not deniable because illitracy exist allover Southern Sudan not in Dinka alone. But you aren’t qualified to be the ones pronouncing that simply because Dinkas are by far educated than you and more civilized compared to you. What surprises me greatly is how I read most of Nuer’s comments in which they ignorantly claimed that Dinkas are illitrates leaving behind the stigma in Upper Nile State’s parliament in the person of the so-called deputy speaker who neither knows how to speak in English nor Arabic. I personally witnessed this during my visit to Malakal in his public address on the occassion of the martyres day commemoration at the Malakal theatre center. I hope anyone who was in attendence bears me witness on this. You like imposing yourselves into positions of importance using your blind community members who seems to have never been visited by God since creation. Such a like of Matip, Gatluak who recently persihed while hunting power, Cibitek who is also reported to have shamefully died in the bushes of Jonglei state and many others, are all illitrates and that is what illitracy means. If I can ask, what have you to do with that big humiliation brought to you by your most illitrate greedy kin rebels who have just decided to come back without an inch of achievement after having accussed Goss of lack of democracy, corruption and tribalism just as does Riek?

      It is your assignment to go ahead and mention who among Dinkas holds any senior position without education background. But anyway as usual, all your claims have no grounds and this constitutes the reason why you are perservered like the defication of a baby child on human’s thigh/s.

      A message to Equatorians who also talk the same.

      On the same token you may be having some academic advantages over Dinka as a result of your proximity to the East Africa and your adaption of a "sit and watch" policy during the liberation struggle which earned you extra opportunities to study until 2005. However, you should get informed that Missionaries Schools did not stopped Dinkas from joining. This fact made the Dinkas part of first top South Sudanese to hold a degree if you would mind searching on all academic realities of the South Sudan.

      Some either government or Missionaries Schools were based on Dinka lands, this gave Dinkas an equivalent professional qualifications like you. Remember,Malek, Adong, Renk, Rumbek Secondary Schools and Atar Intermediate of the earlier 50s were not in Equatoria.
      Furthermore, one would remain curious about what you did to the rampant illitracy rate in Eastern Equatoria? Isn’t it wise enough to first address challenges of your own before you would boast of litracy? One doesn’t understand even the practice of having dirts around most Equatorian households in Juba and frequent use of home vicinity as toilets among the Didinga tribe, if it cultural or part of what you have also acquired during your education process!

      Don’t go far folks, smoothen yourselves first then correct our shortcomings later, we will appreciate.

      A combined message to both of you.

      You haven’t and will never oversmarten Dinkas in life, be it culturally, Socially or Politically. You won’t be better than the Dinkas come "wisdom of Stupidity", "Litracy or Illitracy", in all, Monyjang are available.

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      • 11 August 2011 13:41, by Raan

        mony de jang.

        anyway your stupid advise is kept but shall be look into in the next coming even.

        to you Mr VP, before sun set, we Gaatjaak (jikany)demand apology from party(SPLM/A) since you become that short-heart, and message rs otherwise in southern No one special than the others.

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      • 11 August 2011 15:59, by Malual Dungdit

        Mony de Jang, don’t you know that Paulino Matib,the State Deputy Speaker for Upper Nile State and Late Gatluak were classmates to Salva Kiir and also joined Anyanya 1 togather. After Anyanya1 they went to Bilpam and formed SPLM/A and there after came misunderstanding, Matib left and formed Sothern Sudan Forces, till 2005/2006

        So classmates always behave the same

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  • 11 August 2011 07:51, by Alier42

    What you have done to Bor community,it is something you can not be forgiven at all.if we do not forgive you .we can not accept your apology as well.

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    • 11 August 2011 09:09, by Samuel Lwal

      Dears
      For your information guys, we are not any more a rebel or semi autonomous government, we are already the Republic of South Sudan. What i want tell you is that, Dr. Riek apology is the start of new phase in nation building. Therefore, you should not politicise it in the way that fit your self interest. I totally agree with agentlemen that propose open and public apology from VP Dr. Riek rather then Brig. Malaak to talk of it.

      Secondly, I like the quote from president’s speech on 30 July 2011 Martyrs Day, that "the only way we can remember our martyrs is by building the nation and how do we build the nation? Its first to reconcile and live in harmony, there of, it give a way to development".
      My dear bros & sisters, lets not allow our enemy (Arab) to laugh at us and be like Somalia, the failed State.
      Lets us uphold ourselves in peace and harmony inorder to pave a clear and bright future for our children.

      Thanks

      God bless the People of the Republic of South Sudan, give them peace and everythings they lack. In God we trust!!

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  • 11 August 2011 07:58, by Space

    Well, I think the apology was necessary given that Dr.Machar is the VP and potential president of this Country, he ought to apologise to Dinka Bor in particular, comrade in arms and the whole South Sudanese people. His action resulted to loss of thousands of civilians’ lives, properties and a deviation from the course that claimed thosands of SPLA lives around Juba and the entire Region. It is a good gesture of course and, a beginning of reconciliation process as Cde Malak Ayuen put it.

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  • 11 August 2011 08:12, by John Gum

    Dear Readers

    iam responding to those who support Machar apology,guys the 1991 Dr Riak rebellion has nothing to compare upto now,

    Riak,you have not kill only Dinka Bor,your rebellion of 1991 affected all south-sudanese most affectly are Dinka Bor and Dinka Bhar el Gazal particulary Dinka Rumbek.

    remember the attack of Akoth cattle,Adol cattle camp,Marial Bek cattle camp,these attack kill thousand of lives,upto this juncture we can not compromise your political motivation you are giving to individual like nyandeng.who is nyandeng?no her children died during your rebellion and she stupidly pardon you coz Dr John Garang has died,we must to take you to the court regardless to the stupid apology you are giving to Dinka Bor only,it is our general responsiblity to make you are tried in all courses.

    i have printed the evidence and you will not be investigate again,you will put in sentence death immediately.

    My Dinka Bor,if this the situation we are always being killed for nothing and accepted apology,iam sorry and hope Dinka Rumbek will not be like that,iam preparing the texts to be seen in Southsudannation.com.

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    • 11 August 2011 12:43, by Wundit

      TO Gum
      this guy deserve to be taken to court, let’s me assure you people me myself am a victim of Riak defection what all of you call 1991, i lost both my parents am not from Bor community but i come from Bharelghazel
      only that i don’t have powers i would have shut him to death
      but there will be a time.

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  • 11 August 2011 08:16, by Malual Dungdit

    I agree that the Bor Community deserves to critize their Vice President because we have now become Independent State and that we must be critized politically. In a country where there is a democracy, leaders are critized politically, but not taking us back to the past.

    Remember that not community Bor alone who felt the pain of 1991, but all tribes such as Murlee, Shiluk, Equatorians,Dika, Nuer, Nubians among others. So we should not stop the whole system or normal businesses to listen to your grievances always.

    The past is the past and today is today and tomorrow is tomorrow

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    • 11 August 2011 09:02, by Chol A.

      My Dear friends,I agree with those who welcome Dr.Riek apology. There is nothing beyond saying sorry and again being told to explain what you sorry for or taken to justice. Riek has committed crime against Dinka Bor even Dinka Bhar el Ghazel whom travel across Nuer to Ethiopia lost there life. But his apology to such incident shown that he relingush his past to Dinka Bor community and now ask for forgiveness!. What do people need again? the past is past as some of you mantion, if the leader know his wrong and apologize, he/she will be forgiven and still lead you.Imagine Bashire killed our people and gone now without saying sorry, so what is wrong with one who said sorry and serve us. Riek have learn from his mistake he will do better since there will be no another window to snick in.
      Thanks Mr.VP for accepting your crime.

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      • 11 August 2011 09:41, by John Gum

        Chol A
        those whom you see write were the victims whose their children,fathers,brothers,sisters and mothers been killed by Riak rebellion,stop discouraging publics opinion,you have no body died in Riak genocide,taking Riak to court is an individual issue,those who lost their peoples and as iam discussing in this forum,i will personelly take Riak to court,otherwise if we leave this again many peoples will rebell and say when i come back and apology,i will be compromise

        noooooooooooooooooooooonooooooooooooooo to any rebelled individual....no no no forgiveness to some body who killed thousand of peoples coz of his political apitete.

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      • 11 August 2011 13:45, by Good Citizen

        Forgiveness is divine.it’s the greatest strength; he who does not forgive,does not have the capacity to love.so Mr.VP has shown immense love for the people of Bor and all the people of south sudan.he’s is ringing the bell of reconciliation.let’s listen to it. Dr.Garang did more outrageous crimes than Dr.Riak Machar.reconciliation brings in trust and spirit of brotherhood.we need each other to build our nation.yes,there those cultures who believe in taking revenge as way of solving issues, but if all could emulate Equatorian cultures, they would appreciate the peace,civility and harmonious lives in these communities.Dinka and Nuer should not pretend that they are civilize; they are still too far from it.they need 4 decades for them to reach the level of Equatorian civilization. now, who is next to apologize for the atrocities committed in greater Equatoria? the only region that any apology will not be expected is Equatoria region b’coz they have not sinned against anyone-they are peace-loving people.

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  • 11 August 2011 09:44, by Manyieldit

    I wish to inform the so-called elders of
    Bor community in Juba,you have no right to accept the apology on behave of the entire community of Bor. Riek Machar can not be forgiven unless he and his Nuer community
    1. return back all the women and children abducted in 1991 plus the livestock of the Dinka Bor community

    2. compensate the lives which have been loss directly or indirectly as a results of his 1991 action.

    3. The apology should not be to Bor community alone but to the whole South Sudanese at large for lives of people been lost from act of his forces.

    4. he stab the SPLM/A at the back when the movement want to capture Juba and that has brought a huge setback to the people of South Sudan.

    5.The people of Bor community in particular and the South Sudanese in general will not forget what Riek had did to them. apology is not worthy the lives lost during 1991 incident.

    6. Riek should appeared before court to answer question about his action of 1991.

    The people of Bor are scattered all over the world like Jews because of Riek Machar.

    BIG NO to his apology

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    • 11 August 2011 10:57, by jacob mayen ajuoi

      it’s too late to mr VP presidend these time to appologised,what we have been waiting before it was a independend day of southern sudan which take place last month. and we are going to bring him alone to ICC courts soon us possible,Dr Riek ’s not aleader we don,t even talk of compensated of lives some houses are now close because of him.

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  • 11 August 2011 10:26, by ayor

    This moves is a fair start of forging a coexisting between dinka and nuer no matter how disasterous the (1991) was, i think dr. machar has made a right choice for the country to move forward and embark on developement rather holding grudges and conflicting issues that would in turn tear us apart and obstruct the progress!

    I know dinka bor people are peace-loving community, they shall apparently accept this an apology for the sake of making southern sudan a place to be; unlike the other communities with an evil intentions which always aim at bringing down the right of which we had commitedly fought for two decades.

    thanks long live spla, long live southern sudan and god bless

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  • 11 August 2011 11:38, by Nhialicdakonyhok

    Hello my fellow South Sudanese.

    This apology shows the way forward of new Nation to peacefull co-existance. Those days most of our leaders had wicked hearts and different aims against what the SPLM/A has achieved since in 9 Jan,05 9 Jan,11 and finally 9 Jul,11. Whoever that has done wrong should bring forward his apology and will be accepted like the one of Mr. VP we also expecting from Peter Gatdet for Mayom lost of lives for his stupid military ambition against beloved children of RSS now that he has come back can he give an apology though Mr. President has granted general amnesty. Mr Ocampo Louis of ICC will have so many people in their Court hall and specially ...... , ..... and......... for those merciless act against beloved peolpe of Junuba

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  • 11 August 2011 11:49, by linno dinno

    Further information to all of my fellowship Brothers and Sisters.
    So what I want to bestowing t o you all the people of South Sudan, is this, if Dr. Riek Machar is a gallant person, man of Peace, GOD and he want to expressed out the unwanted acts in South Sudan by representing the things that he did to the folk in some years ago is not a matter. On the other hand, it will be very sorrows heart for the Nuer communities for the innocence words that was spoke out by Dr. Riek.
    Maybe and maybe not, what about blood suckers like Mr.Pieng Deng,Kuol Manyang, George Athor plus the rest of their Dinka brothers, when are they going to apology to Nuer communities?
    This is my question to you,
    Since so years ago, some of them was killed the Nuer Comminities and even there is some years name after them also like Pieng Deng Majiok, George Athor who killed the people of Ayod with chaytuur(faga) on the canal Jonglei. The dinka Bor have taught a lesson that could not be forgotten by their husbands Nuer Dr. Riek was not apology it allegations said by Dinka Bor the reason is because Dr. Riek was invited by Bor community to attend the meeting after his speech in the meeting , the Dinka Bor thought Dr.Riek Is apologies, no why, Dr. apologies and he did it intentionally I don’t think if its true .
    Subsequently, we are now free from the Arab rule which mean that we are going to rule ourselves, anyone who will remember the past events, he or she will have no room in the South otherwise he/she weather like or not he/she will join the Nuer,Equatoria and the rest of the Dinka who forgotten the past events.

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  • 11 August 2011 12:16, by jan francis

    Matthew 6:14
    For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

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  • 11 August 2011 12:18, by Ariambek

    Not enough

    It is good news for Machar to apologized to Dinka Bor for atrocities he committed in 1991. To apologized in Juba is like touching sore wounds, regardless of some stupid Nuer community members blamed, he should move from Juba closer to the victims, started from Duk County where he order his defected forces to killing the innocence people up to Mangalla in CEQ state and explain clearly how he did it.

    Dr.Ariambek

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    • 11 August 2011 12:28, by Bush

      @Ariambek

      I think there is no more explanation need from him, it’s good that he has apologized to Dinka Bor Community, but Dinka Bor community also need to apologize to some other communities where they also committed some sot of atrocities and destroyed agricultural lands especial in WES where they were hosted for over 12 years.

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  • 11 August 2011 12:23, by Martin Muong

    Thanks Dr. Machar for your apology, that is how educated people behave. It is good to accept the result of your action. I would like my tribesmen to let by gone be by gone. Of course it was the worse massacre among the worse ones, but we have to condone the vice president for admitted his evil action.

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    • 11 August 2011 12:38, by Bush

      @Martin Muong

      I like the way you accepted his apology bro, you have also shown great maturity in understanding, you will bring change to your community and that is how we are suppose to live but some people don’t want to apologize to others, may be they see an apology as acceptance of defeat or weakness.

      Thanks

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  • 11 August 2011 12:39, by Nhomlawda

    Guys, Riek Machar apology would have been accepted if (1) Riek Machar was not a PhD holder who is supposed to think far into the future, and (2) if Bor genocide was not organized and communicated to troops at the highest leadership of SPLA/M Nasir faction led at the time by two PhD holders (Riek Machar – Chair and Lam Akol – Vice Chair), and (3) if Riek Machar apologized in 2002 just after he shamelessly and single handedly rejoined John Garang and SPLA/M in Nairobi, Kenya.

    To guys, supporting Riek Machar move at this time, it is better not to talk on or support an issue you have sketchy information about.

    1991 Bor genocide was a planned operation by SPLA/M Nasir under the leadership of Dr. Riek Machar. It principal aim was to hurt John Garang and his clan commanders who were pre-empted by SPLA/M Nasir to resist militarily an attempt to take leadership of SPLA/M from Dr. John Garang. Therefore, killing all civilians in Dinka Bor areas before decision is made to redeploy SPLA from around Juba was to hurt John Garang and his Bor military officers to relinquish SPLA/M leadership to Riek Machar and Lam Akol. It is a documented case and all minutes of the declaration to exterminate/annihilate Dinka Bor on the face of the earth are clear and still there up-to-date in written form (SPLA/M Nasir Declaration by Lam Akol – this book contains much information for those who talks without knowing the facts).

    Dr. Riek Machar indirect apology on crimes against humanity in a visionless war against innocent civilians of Bor is totally unaccepted and rejected. It would have been accepted if Riek Machar apologized in June 2002 after he shamelessly and single handedly came back to John Garang in Nairobi.

    Riek Machar is now vulnerable politically and he knows without Dinka Bor and the whole Dinka support on his side, his position of VP is likely to be given to another capable citizen of RSS in the next few years; and therefore, the apology comes at this time to salvage move by President Salva Kiir to fire him in the future.

    Riek Machar should withdraw his indirect apology, Bor massacre cannot be used as a tool to keep him in power. Riek Machar must be tried in a competent court of law so that other mindless people should be careful in the future from committing such heinous crimes.

    Dr. Riek Machar knows where SSTV is located and Malaak Ayuen had never been made a spokesman of Riek Machar to smooth things for Riek Machar. Malaak Ayuen is a military spokesman and must talk on military issues only.
    Why Riek Machar was invited into Dinka Bor community meeting if there was no prior arrangement for Riek Machar to apologize by his former followers such as Dengtiel Ayuen and Telar Ring Deng.

    SPLA/M Officers killed in cold blood under SPLA/M Nasir controlled areas plus thousands of Dinka Bor civilians killed by Nuer army cannot be used as political tool for Riek Machar and other few Dinka opportunists gains.

    Dinka Community holds Riek Machar responsible for reducing their population in a useless war that had never bore fruits. Riek Machar 1991 claimed self determination brought only disasters to Nuer and Dinka people in particular and South Sudan at large.

    Bor genocide which is termed as Bor Massacre for people who want to cover up genocide committed by Nuer army at the time should know, what took place in Bor was not just a massacre but an ethnic cleansing which is a genocide.

    Riek Machar must face justice now or in the future.

    Nhomlawda W. Ranchol – nhomlaw@gmail.com

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    • 11 August 2011 13:11, by Cibaipiath Junub Sudan

      Dear Guys;
      Riek Machar apology to Bor Community is a ploitical projection for future Presidential post for the Republic of South Sudan. Who has not killed among the top SPLA officers at that time? Gier Chuang is not Nuer but killed many soldiers from Dinka tribes. Kuol Manyang Killed.

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    • 11 August 2011 14:01, by Dakkin

      Nhomlawda,

      There is nothing called dinka ’bor’ massacre, your big population in Kakuma can only indicate to the international community that massive displacement did take place.

      South Sudanese

      How does a majority tribe called dinka who liberated us from arabs complaint of being massacred, displaced by a little minority tribe called nuer???? This is a crap!

      Nhomlaw, don’t expect to be free when you live in hatred. Riek Machar must and I repeat must apologise to the Naath community too on behalf of your Mading Bor criminal Kuol Manyang if that is what he is up to though we have forgiven him already! But don’t repeat that mistake of murdering your brothers nuer again!

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    • 12 August 2011 05:43, by ayor

      @ brotther Nhomlowda, we all had same sort of resentments as "Dinka-Bor" folks as well as the rest of "Nuers" of whom were mysteriously murdered in that same genocidal incidental confrontation.

      However, i don’t think it’s a right way just the way you thought it to be as you wanted Riek to be taken to criminals court!: it would still won’t change anything since we won’t be able to bring the mortally bodies back to an immortality. But it’s goin’ to remaines as unerasable misconduct on his records to (Riek) and so do his delusional supporters.

      Therefore, what i am trying to eloborate here is just that i am being in position of progress and delovepmental rather than getting stuck on conflicting issues thats won’t grant us prosperity to this beloved nation of ours, instead of bringing us down in a degrading images comparably to the rest of the failed nations accross the world!

      lets build this young-nation brothers....and lets forget all kinds of mischievous things thats happened in the past for all of us to be stablised.

      I know how painful it’s to have lost a closest memembers of your own family just like i did in that fateful incidental genocide but lets alltogether work for a common interest of our beloved nation irresfectively without inconveniences and Jah bless all of you:).

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  • 11 August 2011 13:28, by Deng Sam Malek

    Honestly, I have found myself inspired to write on this topic about Dr Riek Machar apology to Dinka Bor community. All of us, at some point in our lives have felt the desperate inner turmoil and confusion that comes from feeling that we have been "wronged" or betrayed in some way. You fight to understand what is wrong with a person to have done such a thing, or to be such a way. Have I deserved such treatment? The list of inner feelings goes on and on as we try to make sense of our lives. As you well know, the consequences of that inner turmoil run quite deep down. On one end, your life can become filled with resentment and anger.
    Forgiveness is a choice the forgiver makes to let go of resentment held in the forgiver’s mind of a perceived wrong or difference, either actual or imagined. As the choice of forgiveness is made in the mind of the forgiver, it can be made about any resentment, whether toward another, oneself, a group, a situation or even one’s God. Forgiveness of another can be granted with or without the other asking for forgiveness.
    Forgiveness - whether it is forgiving yourself or others - is a major piece of the puzzle as we look at the elements necessary to create a prosperous and abundant life.
    What I want to make clear in this discussion is that, yes, you certainly are "justified" in feeling the way you do - always - whether we are talking about forgiveness or any other issue. Your feelings are always valid. They are always your experience. They are always right, and you have the right to choose how you will feel. You are at choice, and your choices work for you - they protect you. I am not here to tell you that your feelings are wrong. BUT it is important to acknowledge that you have the power to choose your feelings...and if they resonate in a way that is not alignment with your highest good - and what you want for your life - then you get to choose something different! So, as it relates to your sense or experience of prosperity - forgiveness is a must. If you do not choose forgiveness, you may be choosing the lack of it, which translates into anger, resentment, fear, frustration, etc.
    To me, no need to keep an account for revenge because revenge or vengeance consists of retaliation against a person or group in response to perceived wrongdoing. Although many aspects of revenge resemble or echo the concept of making things equal, revenge usually has a more injurious than constructive goal. The vengeful wish is to make the perceived wrongdoer go through what they put the victim through or to make sure the wrongdoer can never do what they did again. Revenge is a hotly contested ethical issue in philosophy. Some feel revenge is necessary to maintain a just understanding of things.

    HOW do I forgive?
    The philosophy behind anger management should be emphasized. Here we say that anger management is commonly referred to as a system of psychological therapeutic techniques and exercises by which one with excessive or uncontrollable anger can control or reduce the triggers, degrees, and effects of an angered emotional state. As the issue of anger varies from person to person, the treatments are designed to be different as well. Here is how one can go through forgiving process:

    1. Know that forgiveness is a choice, and even a skill. You weren’t born unforgiving and you shouldn’t beat yourself up about where you are in your ability to forgive at this point. Be good to yourself and honor where you are.
    2. Start with a forgiveness inventory and ask yourself what you get out of keeping the pain, hurt or anger. Like it or not, there is a payoff.
    3. Know that forgiveness is not about minimizing your pain or others actions, or staying in a situation that does not honor you.
    4. Choosing forgiveness is the first step. You need not rush the process, for learning how to forgive and using that in your life is a key prosperity.

    Thanks Dr Riek Machar for showing maturity this time.

    Author: Deng Sam Malek
    Reachable at: dengmalekawulian@yahoo.co.uk
    skype:sam.deng.malek

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  • 11 August 2011 13:48, by Good Citizen

    Forgiveness is divine.it’s the greatest strength; he who does not forgive,does not have the capacity to love.so Mr.VP has shown immense love for the people of Bor and all the people of south sudan.he’s is ringing the bell of reconciliation.let’s listen to it. Dr.Garang did more outrageous crimes than Dr.Riak Machar.reconciliation brings in trust and spirit of brotherhood.we need each other to build our nation.yes,there those cultures who believe in taking revenge as way of solving issues, but if all could emulate Equatorian cultures, they would appreciate the peace,civility and harmonious lives in these communities.Dinka and Nuer should not pretend that they are civilize; they are still too far from it.they need 4 decades for them to reach the level of Equatorian civilization. now, who is next to apologize for the atrocities committed in greater Equatoria? the only region that any apology will not be expected is Equatoria region b’coz they have not sinned against anyone-they are peace-loving people.

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  • 11 August 2011 14:07, by Mawicdit

    It is good that the vice president of southern Sudan has finally apologised to Bor community. To a degree, this is a wise decision and it has the potential to kick-start a reconciliation process in South Sudan. However, Riek’s apology ought to be reciprocated by people like KUOL MANYGANG JUUK, who barbarically slaughtered three hundred soldiers just because they were from Bhar el Ghazal. For him, it was a fun way of quenching his blood thirst. If people are serious about reconciliation and peaceful coexistence in South Sudan, then they ought not to look at such crimes through “tribal lenses” but rather as a nation-wide issue that need to be address for the goodness of our newly born nation. Hence, if anyone is suggesting that Riek should be held accountable for his actions, then they must also add Kuol and any other blood-sucking criminal to the list. A list of which Peter Gadet, G. Athor, Ayii Akol and Gabriel Tangnye are highly destined to become the graduate class in philosophical school of betrayal and criminality.

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    • 11 August 2011 14:12, by Land-of-Cush

      Riek Machar appologyed to Dinka Bor, than who will apology for 98,000 killed in Jikany Nuer in 1985-1986, 66 Nuer burn in the church in Ayod by George Athorbei Deng in order of John Garang in 1992, who will apology for Kaldak massacre and Mayom Genocides community by SPLA in order made by Salva Kiir?

      After Nasir declaration and before what so called Bor massacre; Bor people murders thousands of Lou Nuer since there was famine and drought in 1991 in Lou areas; Lou used to take their cattle to Dinka Bor and sold them for cone (Maze) provided to them by World Food Program. On their way back home Dinka Bor always ambushes them killed the men straight away naked women and raps them, killed and hugging them by opening their legs directed to the way where other Nuer can see unpleasant parts of their body while their sprites has gone.

      What happen in Bor was not directed to Bor people, the handful blood John Garang never protect people and keep lying to Dinka Bor that don’t run away I have enough army the small group of Nuer will not defeat them. Because that war was fought by white army not Riek Machar’s army that was how Garang Convinced Bor people not to run away. In this case Nuer civilians knew that all Nuer men with SPLA uniforms were murdered by SPLA in the order made by Dr Garang; except James Hoth and John Kong while these two guys never protect Nuer in SPLA uniforms. The job get done by Kuol Manyang, George Athor, Geir Chuang, Ping Deng Majaak Agot and etc.

      Therefore, if Riek Machar who defected from SPLA because of self-determination accept the guilt and apology to Dinka Bor before he made Nuer leaders, fathers, mothers and Youth aware of his guilt and explain to us how he committed his crimes and how he will apology to Dinka People. We will not consider him any more as a true son of man born by Machar and Nyagonyang from Nei ti Naath Community. He will also apology to Nuer as whole for the lying he made to us that he defected from SPLA because of self-determination, he will apology for Nuer people of his cause as he is a visionless leader. From now onward we the Naath people withdrawn our support of Riek Machar.

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      • 11 August 2011 15:13, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

        Good question land of doom.
        Who will apologizse to Nuer gangster? may be Ngundeng will do apologies to his curse community nuer.

        Why don’t him [Riek] came out and said it instead of Malak or you are telling me that the apology delivery by Malak Ayuen is enough for you to accept?
        Shot up or back off.

        I am not happy with this dumb apology and Malak Ayuen Ajok must be careful and distance himself from this wicked apology. This apology must pass through us [generals] who have higher rank Malak not Malak. They army is watching carefully.

        It is so good that Mr Negate Riek has confessed.

        Thank God that he reveal his wicked oafish of Nassir gangster attitudes so that we will presence them to the court of laws.

        The bad side about this useless and doom apology is that the fat ass Gordon buay is still existing form his tribal doom and ugly dumb uncivilised towards the great people of Dinkas.
        If you so called fat ass ugly Gordon buay don’t shot up your uncivilized attitudes against the people who liberate Nuer out from slaver than you will be subject to death.

        This apology must first be accepted by military official not Malak Ayuen Ajok only. Than to the great people of Bor Dinkas or we will take it as a no to any doom and wicked oaf evils from any member of the khartoum_nassir gang apologize.

        Dose dumb fat ass ugly dog so called Gordon buay think that he is better than negate Riek machar or he think that all Nuer nyagateen have lower IQ like him?.

        Gordon buay need to make sure that he does not want to step his wicked foot in South Sudan or he will be subject to his own attitudes.

        Riek machar is a dog and want the dog acknowledge his mistake. that he will be punished according to the rules of laws.

        I hope this a beginning of downfall of Nassir gangster group and another doom and wicked foolish so called lam Akol must also confess his crimes he committed with his gang leader or he will be subject to death in short term?.

        All Nassir gangster must stand and say sorry to the SPLA/M too because they murdered a lots of SPLA/M officer.

        To those Nuer employed by Sudan tribune you must be careful or your website will be shot down in south Sudan. do you think that deleting comment here is the good things that you can do? no my friends we can just shot down any time here. so stop your Nuer attitudes towards Dinkas. your wicked behaviour has been detected already so stop that work of doom dumbs.
        shame on you greedy Nuer nyagateen employed by poor Sudan Tribune.com..

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        • 11 August 2011 16:55, by God Knows

          DINKA DOMINATED FOOL.

          DESPITE WHAT EVER YOU CALL YOURSELF, YOU ARE JUST SOME BODY WHO IS WAITING FOR DEATH. YOU HAVE REACHED UP TO THE LEVEL OF ACUSSING NGUNDENG?

          JUST WAIT A MINUTE, IAM GOING TO PRINT THIS SENTENCE OF YOURS WITH YOUR NAME AND PLACE IT ON NGUNDENG’S ALTAR. I WIL THEN KILL A BULL WITH A SWORD NOT A SPEAR, THEN YOU WILL DIE A VERY PAINFULL DEATH WHERE YOUR PARENTS WILL THINK OF NOT GIVING BITH TO YOU.

          NOTHANKS.
          GOD KNOWS.

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  • 11 August 2011 14:11, by Augustino

    Yes, Riek Machar can appologized but who will appologized for Nuer who were all been killed in lines of Spla/splm directly because they were Nuer and not even took up arm against Spla/Splm? Riek Machar will pay the price of his appology in future believe me or not. I am Dinka and I know there are pepole who are very painful, Nyadeng is not painful because she is with her parents and all relatives but how about those who lost their parents,children and all relatives?

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  • 11 August 2011 14:29, by sudinka

    DEAR FELLOW CITIZEN the vice president apology is only in Juba but is better to move where they Dinka Bor are living and explain why he Apologised to the the people of Dinka Bor at this time,My advice to Riak supports before the Dinka Excepted his Apology you Define the word Genocide is foremost an international crime for which individuals,no matter how high in authority ,may be indicted,tried and punished by the International Criminal Court (ICC).According to Article 6 of the ICC Statute, This crime involves,:any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy ,in whole or in part,a national,ethnic,racial or religious group,as such (a)killing members of the group:and happen in 1991 cause by VICE PRESIDENT RIAK MACHAR TENY DOROGON (b)causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group,the same to RIAK done it.(c)Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part:(d)imposing measures intended to prevent births with in the group :(e) forcibly transferring children of the group to another group:this are things note about these acts. the vice president apology have no room in Dinka community before law even if SPLM/A Did not count internal disruption during the war the Dinka and south Sudanese are washing even world. RIAK MUST TO FACE TO CARRY HIS CROSS WITH OUT APOLOGY.critical NO! NO! NO! NO! to to RIAK apology.to reach me sudinka@yahoo.com

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    • 11 August 2011 14:47, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

      This stupid and son of weak man called hiself Marco A Wek is foolsh and dumb just like his others Bor Dinkas who can just forget wrong things very quick.

      Why are you instigate this stupid and dumbs apology? if your little bran thinking that Riek has apologies?

      Why don’t hime [riek] came out and said it insteed of Malak or you are telling me that the apology delever by malak Ayuen is enought for you to accept?
      Shot up or back off.

      I am not happy with this dumb pology and Malak Ayuen Ajok must be caerfull and distance himself from this wicked apology. this apology must pass through us [generals] who have higher rank malak not maleak. they army is watching carefull.

      It is so good that mr Nyagat Riek has confess.

      Thank God that he reveal his wicked oafsh of nassir gangster attitudes so that we will presence them to the court of laws.

      The bad side about this usless and doom apology is that the fat ass Gordon buay is still exasting form his trible doom and ugly dumb uncivilisted towards the great people of Dinkas.
      If you so called fat ass ugly Gordon buay don’t shot up your uncivilist attitudes against the people who libaret nuer out from slaver. than you will be subject to death.

      This apology must first be accepted by military official not malak Ayuen Ajok only. than to the great people of Bor Dinkas or we will take it as a no to any doom and wicked oaf evilsh from any member of the khartoum_nassir gang apologice.

      Dose dumb fat ass ugly dog so called Gordon buay think that he is batter than nyagat Riek machar or he think that all nuer nyagateen have lower IQ like him?.

      Gordon buay need to make sure that he dose not want to step his wicked foot in South Sudan or he will be subject to his own attitudes.

      Riek machar is a dog and want the dog acknowledge his mistake. that he will be punishe according to the rules of laws.

      I hope this a begining of downfail of nassir gangster group and another doom and wicked foolsh so called lam Akol must also confess his crimes he committed with his gang leader or he will be subject to death in short term?.

      All nassir gangster must stand and say sorry to the SPLA/M too because they murdered alots of SPLA/M officer.

      To those nuer employed by sudantribune. you must be carefull or your website will be shot down in south sudan. do you think that deleting comment here is the good things that you can do? no my friends we can just shot down any time here. so stop your nuer attitudes towards Dinkas. your wicked behaviour has been detected already so stop that work of doom dumbs.
      shame on you greedy nuer nyagateen employeed by poor Sudan Tribune.com..

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      • 11 August 2011 16:30, by God Knows

        GOD KNOWS WHY DINKA ARE ACTING, LYING AGAINST A TRUE MAN WHO BROUGHT SOUTH SUDAN INTO THE WORLD. A MAN WHO MADE THE NATION TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE WHOLE WORLD. I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS. THIS IS NONSENSE. IAM SURE THE PEOPLE WHO CAUSED THIS WILL BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.

        ALL I KNOW IS THESE PEOPLE ARE MAD. THEY HAVE MANIA, DEPRESSION OR MAY BE SCHIZOPHRENIA. THEY REALY NEED TO SEE PSCYIATRIST. LET THEM GO AND GET ADMITTED IN PSYCHIATRIC OR MENTAL HOSPITAL.

        WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENNED DURING THE WAR. WHO DID NOT KILL A PERSON. EVEN ME I KILLED MANY DINKAS AND MY BROTHERS WERE ALSO KILLED BY THE DINKAS TOO. IT WAS ALL ABOUT CONFUSION TO ALL OF US. WE CANNOT BLAME IT TO ONLY ONE ONE PERSON.

        DID GARANG APPOLOGISE FOR KILLING GAI TUT AND CANNING HIM AFTER BEING BURRIED? DID KUOL MANYANG APPOLOGISE FOR KILLING NUERS?

        THE ANSWER TO ALL THESE QUESTIUONS IS A BIG NOOO.

        LET US BE REALISTIC BOYS. DON’T WE KNOW THIS ALLEGATION CAN TAKE US BACK TO THAT TIME?

        THANKS ALL.
        GOD KNOWS.

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      • 11 August 2011 16:33, by sudinka

        DEAR readers DR Riak meaning destruction i will call him Riek when he clear his name ICC we waiting Dr Riek to tell Dinka in all the place that he done wrong but we are not talk Malak said the Community belong to Malak or Rebbecca let him wait till the Ocampo open the DOC no joke this time noway run to North or gang up the tribe to hit another tribe .

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      • 11 August 2011 16:45, by Mach Achiek

        Dear readers,

        Some of you if not all of you are wasting their precious time commenting nonsense on the web. Don’t let Riek’s supporters dragged you out of the main issue. The main topic is; "Machar has apologized to the Dinka Bor community".

        We are not here to defense Dr. John Garang. He was the Commander in chief of the SPLA at the time, and had SPLA committed crimes of unimaginable proportion, he would be held accountable in his grave. But the question is; what do the law say about the dead?, the Judge will tell us that in the near future.

        To the supporters of Dr. Riek, I recommend you guys should read some basic laws books to shape your legal capacity. Even the laws of the jungle will not allow Rebecca Nyandeng or any other Bor elder to apologize on behave of Dr John. Common guys; who was the chief of operations in Jikany area in 1985?. To the best of my knowledge, It was William Nyuon. So, is William Nyuon’s widow going to represent her husband alongside Nyandeng to deliver a join apology?.

        Nyandend’s relationship with the late Dr John was not a political one, but was rather a love and a family union, and therefore should not be held accountable for her husband’s political wrongs nor any other politician from Bor should be implicated in Garang’s sin if he had one.

        BACK to the topic; What has Riek Machar’s political ambition of separating the then Southern Sudan from the rest of the Sudan have in common with the massacred of civilians in Bor?.

        Riek was the championed of the self-determination, Ok. He forced Garang to accepted it, ok. He signed the peace in 1997 that later became the landmark of the CPA in 2005, ok.But the question is; does it need thousands of deaths in Bor for Garang to accept the right of self-determination?.

        Brothers, put down your minds and think critically if you really want Dr. Riek to succeed in his political career.

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      • 11 August 2011 17:20, by sudinka

        SORRY MACH THE MESSAGE IS DIRECTED TO CILOI

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  • 11 August 2011 16:10, by Cadaai ?o?

    Riek Machar did apologize to Dinka or Jieng Twic or Tuic East yet. He was just apologize to Dinka or Jieng Bor Only. We Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic East people are still waiting for our apology from Dr. Riek Machar Teny.

    Riek needs to know where he had made a destructions much. It was not Dinka Bor, it was Dinka Twic/Tuic East where Dr. John Garang came from.

    We people of Dinka Twic East are still waiting for his apology.

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    • 11 August 2011 17:03, by sudinka

      Brothers and sisters Riek must face the justice this year according to the conduct took place in the context of a manifest Reported by human Right Commission that Riek was committed crime against humanity the must serious crime one Nuer done to Dinka under authority of Dr Riek destruction of culture by force the children in different language and custom .put all those fake on face.while "culture "is unmentioned in the articles of the ICC,s Statute and the report of the PCICC and may well be included as the case law of genocide develops.Riek must to be tell leave the post of vice President very soon we were just waiting for our freedom and is already over.this right for him to go.

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    • 13 August 2011 02:01, by Cadaai ?o?

      Riek Machar didn’t apologize to Dinka or Jieng Twic or Tuic East yet. He was just apologize to Dinka or Jieng Bor Only. We Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic East people are still waiting for our apology from Dr. Riek Machar Teny.

      Riek needs to know where he had made a destructions much. It was not Dinka Bor, it was Dinka Twic/Tuic East where Dr. John Garang came from.

      We people of Dinka Twic East are still waiting for his apology.

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  • 11 August 2011 16:33, by Cadaai ?o?

    Wow, Malak Ayuen from Dinka Bor was available for apolopgy. That’s good for Dinka Bor. We the Dinka Twic East, I hope there was no our personnel there. Some people don’t who was affected the most about massacre of the 1991. Well, the most affected by Dr. Riek invasion was Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic East. It is 100% truth.

    In addition, President Kiir needs to know that Dinka Twic East is his tribe too like Dinka Twic West (Twic Mayardit), Gier Chuang needs to know that; Dinka Twic East is not Dinka Bor, Dr. Riek himself needs to know where he has done much damages, it Dinka Twic East, etc.

    Furthermore, if it being to generalized that region Dinka. It is calls Southeastern or Eastern Dinka. Or in absolute truth, it should be call Dinka Twic East massacre.

    So for those who don’t know your Freedom Father (Dr. John Garang de Mabior) tribe.

    Please you needs to buy new book about the man, the book came out this year or in June of this year. It is good book, I have owned it and others who own it are please with book.

    It is title: Dr. John Garang de Mabior: The undiscovered stories about man behind South Sudanese’ Freedom.

    Websites:

    http://www.ssaana.org (Book in print)
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/b00547NBS2
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    • 11 August 2011 16:53, by Mach Achiek

      Cadaai?o?,

      Your are weak and just a little fellow, distant yourself from the concept of Twic East or West.

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      • 11 August 2011 17:08, by Cadaai ?o?

        I am not weak body to everybody who stands for truth and integrity of history. People like you and others are the one who will down-pour our freedom into sink under this term "Ignorant". I think you are from Dinka Bor, if you are, do you believe what has been don to Dinka Twic East is reassambly to what Riek has done to Dinka Bor? Be honest please with your answer. Credit must not be taken wrongly when times of freedom has come.

        Dr. Riek himself is thug, why I say so? Because he always despite for leadership while he doesn’t have natural leadership part; to me in God name education is additional thing to naure gift part, plus he doesn’t know the different between Dinka Bor and Dinka Twic East. Where in the world you will be a leader while you just illiterate of people History.

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      • 11 August 2011 17:13, by sudinka

        MR MACH ACHIK LET ME ADVICE YOU LEAVE THIS WEB RIGHT NOW WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY ABUSE GREAT COUNTY TWIC EAST THERE NO ONE CALL ACHIK IN TWIC STOP IT NOW ALL THE SOUTH SUDANESE KNOW YOU ARE NOT DINKA MAY BE YOU FRIEND TO MACH ACHIK,

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      • 11 August 2011 17:14, by God Knows

        Machiek.

        Macieth wale Acieth. you are a big fool, big criminal and a big baking dog. Move away from politics or you will get in to trouble. Just go and eat AGANY in your Dinka village. You don’t even write or speak good English. Most of the writers do not get or understand your comments, they just asume.

        Nothanks.
        God knows.

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      • 11 August 2011 17:52, by Dakkin

        Mr Lawyer Mach,

        It seems that you are protecting Nyandeng,
        well I am not a lawyer but maybe Salva Kiir can stand trial on behalf of Garang. How do you see that when Riek can stand trial on behalf of nuer civilians mr. Lawyer?

        When are you taking Kuol Manyang, Majak Agot, Gier to court?

        Your civilians were armed to the teeth, can’t you just accept this undeserved apology and fullstop.

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        • 11 August 2011 19:16, by Mach Achiek

          Dakkin,

          There is nothing called another person to stand trial on behalf of the other;and therefore, President Kiir should not be subjected to stand trial on behave of Dr John. However,if your case is strong enough to be able to implicate him on the pretext that he was the longest serving number two man to the late Dr. John, I think he will be trial defending on how much he contributes in the criminal activities not on how much Dr. John has contributed.

          However, the case which is being brought up against Dr. John by Dr.Riek’s supporters is what they refers to as the 1985 massacred of Jikany’s Nuer, which in my opinion will be drop by the magistrate court since president Kiir was by far at least was in a third position in the party hierarchy.Garang,Kerubino,Nyuon, and Kiir respectively.

          Moreover, to answer your false claims, Dr. Riek’s crimes are not Nuer’s crimes. Crimes are not being committed by the entire community, but rather by a individual action. His ill informed decision to ordered Bor masscred instead of pursuing Garang in Torit will be the first question our beloved Dr. Riek will hear from the Judge if he is going to appear one day, which I hope he would.

          Regarding those of Majak Agoot, Kuol Manyang, Gier Choung and many more. All these guys are Dinkas ethnically, but their crimes are not Dinka’s crimes. To be a commander or a Minister or Security chief in the government or in the army has nothing to do with one own tribe, and whoever committed crimes in his job must face the full weight of law. If you have a case against them, bring it up and take them to court.

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          • 11 August 2011 21:06, by Cadaai ?o?

            Please Mac Achiek, nothing so call Dinka Bor massacre. You either call it Southeastern Dinka Massacre or Dinka Twic East Massacre, fullstop.

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          • 11 August 2011 23:17, by Dakkin

            Mach,

            I responded to your baseless assertions point by point but in just a click, the message disappeared, maybe the webmaster is your friend. Sudan tribune are repeating the same mistakes they had been criticised for in the past.

            Anyway, nothing called dinka bor massacre which you have been using as a bargaining tool ever since.
            When are you taking the murle to icc court for abductions?

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    • 13 August 2011 02:03, by Cadaai ?o?

      Wow, Malak Ayuen from Dinka Bor was available for apolopgy. That’s good for Dinka Bor. We the Dinka Twic East, I hope there was no our personnel there. Some people don’t know who was affected the most about massacre of the 1991. Well, the most affected by Dr. Riek invasion was Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic East. It is 100% truth.

      In addition, President Kiir needs to know that Dinka Twic East is his tribe too like Dinka Twic West (Twic Mayardit), Gier Chuang needs to know that; Dinka Twic East is not Dinka Bor, Dr. Riek himself needs to know where he has done much damages, it Dinka Twic East, etc.

      Furthermore, if it being to generalized that region Dinka. It is calls Southeastern or Eastern Dinka. Or in absolute truth, it should be call Dinka Twic East massacre.

      So for those who don’t know your Freedom Father (Dr. John Garang de Mabior) tribe.

      Please you needs to buy new book about the man, the book came out this year or in June of this year. It is good book, I have owned it and others who own it are please with book.

      It is title: Dr. John Garang de Mabior: The undiscovered stories about man behind South Sudanese’ Freedom.

      Websites:

      http://www.ssaana.org (Book in print)
      http://www.amazon.com/dp/b00547NBS2
      w

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  • 11 August 2011 17:03, by Lokeji

    Congratulations and bravo Mr vice president for this responsible move, we expect many also to come-up and confront their own past mistakens in order to pave way for a brighter begining in the new nation.Mr v.p many term your move as cowardy but for me this is how suppose a responsible politician should act, to do an evil thing does not need too much courage but to apologised for the same evil, it takes the whole of mans courage.your disputes of 1991 was a turning point in the southern political direction, this is where the call for self determination had become so clear and you plus your friend Dr Lam Akol spear headed this called.today your dream of independent republic of southern sudan has come true and the fictional dream of new sudan had dusted away.
    Mr. vice president the history of the republic of southern sudan will count you and your friend Dr. Lam Akol as the contemporary fathers of the new nation.Please exert all your effords to see into it that this great achiement is not being spoil by the greedy intruders who found their way into the positions of power and try your best to bring in Dr Lam to participate in the nation building.
    Remember this was your Dream.
    God bless south sudan and her leadship.

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    • 11 August 2011 18:50, by Nhomlawda

      Lokeji

      Such a chicken brain as demonstrated by your writing will never take you anywhere.

      When traitors (Drs Riek Machar and Lam Akol) did become fathers of self determination and the subsequently fathers of modern South Sudan?

      Lam Akol and Riek Machar removed majority of their tribesmen from SPLA/M and surrendered them to SAF and GoS together with all Greater Upper Nile land liberated with the blood of gallant Dinka youth.

      Please never glorify failures, Dr. Lam Akol is not coming back to South Sudan for he is ashamed of his mistakes, and Riek Machar will follow him soon into exile so that they can join their friends who made them to cause havoc and massacres in 1991 and the subsequent years till 2002.

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      • 12 August 2011 16:02, by Lokeji

        Bro, Nhomlawda

        Although you started your respond to my previous comment with a very insultive statement but still i was expecting you to correct my knowledge in regards to the names of those who rebelled and insisted to include the protocol for self determination in any coming negotiations between SPLA/M and the sudanese government or NCP, but you failed to list to me any, that shows that you really complied with my names but your hatre to the two fathers prevented you from accepting the truth.I hope you will not come around to cheat the public by jotting the name of Dr. John Garang as the father of southern sudan self determination or frankly speaking the father of the republic of south sudan, that will be untrue because everyone knows the position of Garang before his death.Always many people are recognise as great leaders or heros after they leave this world.
        Regarding the claim that they have killed many people, please tell me who among these present leaders who are clean? Lets not waged war of character assissination on tribal basis or personal hatre on our great leaders like Dr. Riek Machar and Dr. Lam Akol who really deserve roses from us than this ugly crosses and desrespectable names we called on them.for your notice, it’s not all southern sudanese on your side against the two fathers, it’s been discovered that there is a certain group within one of the tribes in south sudan that are working day and night to see into it that these guys are either kill or put behind bans.But am sorry this will never happen and what will happen is that, the hatre within them will ruin and burn them up.
        Your excellency the Vice president go a head with your mission of nation building and leave the dogs to bark and be sure the southern sudanese are behind you the Father of the republic of south sudan(Dr. Riek Machar).
        Bro nhomlawda am actual not good in writting insultive comments but i really advice you to embark your writtings on culture of peace rather than culture of war which will lead the whole nation to doom.Regarding the VP, i did not get any chance to see him in person but for Dr lam Akol, i once met him in person in the funeral rite of Dr paul wani Gore of anthropology university of khartoum.
        God bless south sudan and her leadership.

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        • 12 August 2011 19:50, by Nhomlawda

          Lokeji

          Dr. John Garang knew self determination was good right from the beginning of Anyanya 1 and that was why he joined Anyanya 1 but the support (both internal and external) that could make self determination be realized was not there.

          Self determination was unwise vision to champion because SPLA/M would have been branded a separatist movement. Self determination as a vision at the formation of SPLA/M would have put the SPLA/M in the same putting with Anyanya I and denied support the Ethiopian government gave to SPLA/M.

          Remember Ethiopia was fighting its own separatist movements at the time; Uganda was at war too, DR Congo was not stable either with separatist movement in Katanga Region, Kenya was reluctant to be seen supporting a rebel movement in another country.

          So, where do you think support for self determination would have come from when neighboring countries were not happy to support such causes as self determination for minor groups in any African country?

          Remember South Sudan did not have factory for guns and ammunitions to fight its own war. Therefore, external support was critical for SPLA/M vision and mission success.

          Self determination/separation was tried by Anyanya I and II but failed to mobilize people within Sudan who were marginalized by Khartoum but not part of South Sudan. The Anyanya I and II civil wars were largely confined to South Sudan territory due to their separatist vision, therefore, making waging wars against Islamic Fundamentalists’ injustices exclusively a South Sudan versus North Sudan affair. With South Sudan tiny population and ill equipped rebel movements (Anyanya I and II), a third war that pitted South Sudan versus North Sudan was not helping South Sudan cause at all, and could not be repeated by SPLA/M wise leadership.

          In addition, self determination /separation leaning vision during Anyanya I and II also failed to gain popular support from neighboring countries that saw it as a bad precedent for Africa.

          When John Garang started SPLA/M, the first group to be destroyed was Anyanya II staunch champions of South Sudan separation who did not want a sugarcoated vision to achieve popular support for South Sudan cause.

          SPLA/M as envisioned at formation managed to gain popular support which Anyanya I and II failed to gain through their narrow vision plainly put as separation of South Sudan from rest of the Sudan.

          In simple term, SPLA/M vision of united secular democratic Sudan was meant to get support both within and outside Sudan to bring military and political pressures close to the centre of power in Khartoum to force them to accept comprehensively negotiated settlement to the civil war in Sudan. SPLA/M leadership knew at the negotiating table, issues that could have scared away SPLA/M groups in the north and supporters in the diaspora but benefits the south could be tabled for consideration. That is where self determination idea was to be brought up and agreed upon.

          Idea of self determination was not a new thing to South Sudan during SPLA/M liberation struggle but it was unwise request to make without strong political and military standing for South Sudan to force that interest through as the best way of settling civil wars between South and North Sudan.

          Anyanya I asked for self determination but it was denied because they had no serious power to force it through.
          SSIM of Riek Machar asked for self determination but it was denied because there was no strong political and military standing to force it through.

          SPLA /M asked for self determination and got it because SPLA/M had both the political backing and military standing to force self determination for South Sudan through.

          In conclusion, self determination for separation was known to be the best option of settling none ending civil wars between South and North Sudan but the modality of reaching it had to be changed since two attempts (Anyanya I and II) were made for that goal but failed to achieve significant results.

          Separatist movements hardly get support globally; examples are the Cabinda movement in Angola, Bakassi Peninsula group in Cameroon, Katanga group in DR Congo and many others in Africa and the world over. These groups had fought for several generations and now still fighting for independence from their mother countries but they are not getting their demands, at least in a foreseeable future.

          If SPLA/M had changed its vision to fight exclusively for self determination of South Sudan as Riek Machar wanted, South Sudanese would have not gotten independence by now.

          Just ask yourself why Riek Machar failed to get bullets for the guns he took from SPLA/M mainstream, leave alone securing new guns. It was because no one wanted to be seen supporting separatist movement in another country while suppressing their own diversities that require greater autonomy or independence from their central governments.

          SPLA/M liberation struggle under united secular democratic Sudan exit strategy was to carefully apply military and political pressures to force Islamic Fundamentalists in Khartoum into serious and meaningful political negotiation and settlement of the civil war. The success of and how long to reach the exit strategy depended on SPLA/M military and political strength to force NIF/NCP to the negotiating table. SPLA/M military and political strengths finally forced NIF/ NCP into meaningful political negotiation and settlement of the civil war in August 2002 to January 2005 in which self determination option was tabled for negotiation and agreed upon as envisioned at the SPLA/M formation.

          Therefore, CPA self determination had nothing to do with Drs Riek Machar and Lam Akol 1991 disastrous visionless split of the movement; but it was an option kept close from public by SPLA/M leadership not to scare away supporters before the war was to be brought to an end.
          John Garang de Mabior, Martin Majier Gai, Karubino Kuanyin Bol, Williams Nyuon Bany, Salva Kiir Mayardit, Arok Thon Arok, and Joseph Oduho were wise when they agreed to launch SPLA/M liberation struggle under United Secular Democratic Sudan vision.

          Always think big, narrow worldview always achieve none or little success in complex issues such as dividing nations’ territories.

          Learn from Nasir gangsters’ failure in achieving their vision of independent South Sudan through the easy way of concluding shallowly thought-through agreements.

          You guys have pig brains to apprehend complex issues.

          Nhomlawda W. Ranchol - nhomlaw@gmail.com

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          • 13 August 2011 17:35, by Lokeji

            Nhonmlawda

            I really enjoyed your well fashioned and intelligent comment mean to mislead the public, with the intention of making the public to have a U-turn from their really perception of Garang as a unionist to a saperatist but there is one thing that made your lie nake, when you listed the names of the fathers of the liberation, there is a very important man you decided deliberately not to mention his name, Mr Gai Tut.Why do you let his name out?, oh i know because of the fear that i will posed another question of why Garang killed him? Bro, you will never steal this victory from these great leaders eve history can not steal from them.Every one in south sudan knows that, in one of the times in southern history Garang waged war against the saperatists’ fathers were Gai tut happened to be one of the victims of Garang war for leadership and war gainst saperatists. ok Let us assume that Garang really was a saperatist as you try your level best to justify this argument, then was it neccessary for him to killed all these people to proof to the world that he was fighting for secular sudan? who on earth can accept these notion .please try to find a different argument that can attribute this present victory to Garang, bcoz your current argument is insulting human reasoning.
            Regarding the politics of killing of innocent people by southern politicians or SPLA/M leaders is not only centered to certain individuals, that is to say non of them is a virgin ever Garang himself. Can you tell me what did Garang do to the 15,000 gentlemen who came from bahry el ghazal suppose to joint the movement?and who will apologise for that crime?
            Please there is a need of opening new chapter rather than embarking on deadly hatre on certain individuals,bcoz such kind of persistance will lead this infant nation into confusion which will cause us dearly.

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            • 13 August 2011 21:14, by Nhomlawda

              Lokeji

              The death of Samuel Gai Tut (Nuer), Abdalla Williams Chuol (Nuer), and Akuot Atem Mayen (Dinka Bor) at the formation of SPLA/M had nothing to do with unionist or separatist vision of the movement.
              Those folks opposed John Garang’s leadership of the movement just because John Garang was younger than them.

              After differences with Dr. John Garang group on who to be a leader of SPLA/M, those guys formed their own breakaway faction and moved to Fangak in Jonglei State. With their Nuer supporters in Fangak, they began killing SPLA recruits on their way to training camps at the border with Ethiopia. After they became threat to recruits routes, SPLA attacked their forces and they were killed in different battles. So Samuel Gai Tut was an enemy killed in action. His killing had nothing to do with SPLA/M vision but leadership only.

              There were no 15000 or so recruits killed from Bhar-El-Ghazal by anyone in SPLA/M. That is a white lie, how could somebody killed 12 battalions of potential fighters when you are in desperate need of more people to champion cause for South Sudan? You should have even judged that to be a lie.

              John Garang was a highly educated leader who knows the importance of human beings in achieving his goals in the Sudan. How could he then order a killing of such a large number of people?

              John Garang ordered killing of some people like Martin Majier Gai (Dinka Bor) and Martin Makur Aliyou (Dinka Agaar), but those were politicians who could not agree with him on certain issues.

              John Garang had never ordered a killing of a foot soldier in SPLA/M. Never, those senseless killings were done by people like Riek Machar and Lam Akol who were division commanders by then.

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  • 11 August 2011 17:18, by Southerner

    Dr. Machar’s apology is much needed and timely indeed. By issuing a public apology albeit secretively, Dr. Machar has won the hearts of many bystanders who love South Sudan and want the country to rise above ethnic particularism and perpetual hostility between certain groups. We know where ethnic hatred leads, if the experience of Rwanda in our backyard is anything to go by. What is needed is now a similar gesture of good will by a leading Dinka figure as a prelude to mutual forgiveness and national reconciliation as we strive for a sustainable peace and prosperity in South Sudan. God Bless South Sudan, and the rest of the world.

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  • 11 August 2011 19:16, by Kim Deng

    The "New Sudan," vision and its effects on Southern Sudanese unification

    By: Kim Deng, Bilpam, South Sudan

    The 1955 Torit mutiny marked the beginning of the 17 year old war that was ended by the defunct Anya-Nya I and by the Anya-Nya II insurgencise from 1975-1983, were fought on the priciples of the right of self-determination-meaning the establishment of an independent and sovereign State in the South. When the Addis Ababa Accord of 1972 was signed as an attempt to bring the country its first civil war [1955-1972] between the government and the rebels’ movement to an end, there were a pocket of Any-Nya I elements who doubted about the implementation of the Accord due to lack of commitment and seriousness from the government side. Those few separatists remained in the bush despite the Accord until many other rebelious soldiers of the Sudanes Army rejoined them after Akobo mutiny in 1975 spearheaded by CDR. Vincent Kuany Latjor, eight years before Bor and Ayod mutinies erupted in 1983 respectively. They became a unified force and carried the name SSLM/A or Anya Nya II, the only well-known name for many people under CDR. Vincent Kuany Latjor’s command, whereas the greater Bilpam became their Headquarters. There were over 7,000 troops behind SSLM/A [Anya-Nya II] and the objective of their movement was for total separation of the South from the rest of the country unlike SPLA/M with its "New Sudan," vision.

    After the arrival of "Newcomers," in 1983 as Anya-Nya II call them, two camps were formed within "New-arrivals/Newcomers," Camp A, was under the leadership of Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut Yang, Mr. Kuot Atem and CDR. Abdalla William Chuol Deng. Meanwhile, Camp B, led by Col. Dr. John Garang, CDR. Kerubino Kwanyin Bol and CDR. William Nyuon Bany. It is noteworthy mentioned the factious between the two camps and it was due to critical following factors: 1) What should be the sole objective of the movement and its principles, and 2) Who shall lead the movement [SPLA/M?] Camp A, proposed that the objective of the movement shall be "self-determination for South Sudan which mean total separation for South Sudan from the rest of the country, and it shall be led by Mr. Kuot Atem follows by Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut Yang," instead camp B, did not only reject that proposal, but came up with its own ideology, an ideology of "’United Socialist Secular/New Sudan,’ and the leader of the movement shall be Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut Yang follows by Col. Dr. John Garang."

    It took the two camps few months before camp B rushed to use force against camp A due to fact that, the Ethiopian government which sealed a conspiracy and surreptitious deal with Garang against the separatists was acting behind the scene rather than being a mediator between the two rivals. From their last meeting, CDR. Rhino William Nyuon Bany who doesn’t care about the human life pulled out his pistol and hold it with his right hand while pointing it at Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut Yang and CDR. Cobra Abdalla William Chuol Deng, and said "from today onwards, anyone who appears to oppose Dr. Garang’s leadership and the objective of the movement must not be silenced by talks, but bullet." Thus, Camp A, took technical withdrawal from the area (Itang) without a fight to avoid casualties which may result within the town and to give camp B more time to resverse its dead-end judgments toward South Sudan issues.

    To make the matter worse, after Col. Dr. John Garang’s group secured its position against Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s group, the seizure of Lt. Col. Samuel’s group by Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang’s group did not satisfy Garang’s appetite, but went further and channeled his plan to annihilate the SSLM/A [Anya Nya II] in Bilpam by force due to fact that this seccessionists’ movement shared the same objectives and principles with Camp A. Therefore, to secure the "New Sudan," vision fully, the "Any-Nya II HQTRs, Bilpam must be destroyed and/or dislodged from its foundation," Garang declared. And on other hand, Mr. Mengistu Hailemariam of Ehiopia, a man who got separatist rebels’ movements [Woyane & Shabiah] in his own backyard , decided to impose his socialist ideology on southern Sudanese, and that mission must be fulfilled by someone who believes in that vision; "Dr. Garang must be the right person," according to calculation of Dergue regime base on its interests and bipartisan issues between the two allies.

    With no regret, the Ethiopian armed forces along with few elements from Garang’s group launched an asault against the Anya-Nya II position in October 1983 which caught them by surprise. The Anya-Nya II Headquarters, Bilpam was not only smashed down to ground, but also many of its separatists’ fighters were eliminated and those who caught alive were ordered to dig out their own graves before excuted them by firing-squad if they repudiate joining the former Marxist-Leninist SPLA/M. Of cours, many deserters from SSLM/A [Anya Nya II] joined Garang’s group conditionally, amongst them; CDR. John Kulang and CDR. Kuach Kang.

    There exist relationship between the Anya-Nya II and Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s group came in exsistence before and after Garang’s group failed to engage Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s group in dialogues, but in confrontations in Warfield as he [Garang] declared from his under ground rally. Thereafter, Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s group merged with SSLM/A [Anya-Nya II] under his leadership since Vincent Kuany Latjor, the Anya-Nya II first leader was caught alive and put into very isolated World (prison) after his Headquarters, Bilpam was burned down to ash by the two Marxists [Mengistu & Garang.] Without Ethiopian armed forces back-up, can Garang’s group alone be attempted to annihilate Anya-Nya II forces in Bilpam?

    In war, the skin of Fox is at times necessary as that of a Lion, for cunning may succeed when force fails. Speaking from his undergound rally as mentioned so far, in a message to his disciples, he declared that "the first bullet must be fired against the separatists [Anya-Nya II]," as an attempt to impose his self-claimed "New Sudan," vision on Southern Sudanese and hijacked the movement from its founders/separatists altogether, coincidence?

    A year later, Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s group, [SSLM/A /Anya-Nya II] who were expelled from Ethiopia came back to engage Garang’s group in dialogues because there exists, the great hope from the separatists’ side in the vision of reunification of unionists [SPLA/M] and separatists [SSLM/A/Anya- Nya II], as it had been the case against "Dergue" regime of Mengistu Hailemariam by two rebel factions [Woyane & Shabiah/separatists and unionists] from his own backyard who accomplished their mission in May 1991 when they waged a war agaisnt the tyranny regime under unified force. What if the Sudan’s rebels [Unionists and Separatists] put their differences aside since 1983 and confronted the common enemy, the Khartoum government[NIF/NCP] as a unified force? I leave the answer(s) for you.

    First, they [Anya-Nya II] camped at Mangok, Chatyier and other surrounding areas on their way toward Achua (Itang) where the talks should have been renegotiated. The SPLA/M was reluctant and not fain or serious to deal with SSLM/A [Anya-Nya II] in dialogues, but in warfare instead. While the Anya-Nya II was waiting for talks to resume once again after arrival at Itang, the SPLA/M and Ethiopian armed forces were planning to encircle the Anya-Nya II forces in order to capture their ringleaders alive and/or eliminate/imprison them. This left Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut with no other option, but to withdraw his troops from the town which they have surrounded for more than a week after he learned that, Ethiopian government and the SPLA/M were not interested in peace talks, but war.

    CDR. Cobra Abdallah William Chuol Deng, a man who fears no man on earth, the human toll was the least of his concerns rejected Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s order and wanted the whole town to be burned down to the ground, this prompted Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut to order some of his soldiers to tie-up CDR. Cobra Abdallah William Chuol Deng. Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut did that not only to avoid heavy casualties which may result mainly on innocent people [women and children] in the town, but also to give Col. Dr. John Garang’s group more time to relinquish its poor "New Sudan," vision for the movement. Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s last word to Col. Dr. John Garang and his subordinates after the talks failed in 1984. Mr. Samuel said, "Mr. Garang, you have not anchored South Sudan to your ’New Sudan,’ vision, but you have anchored your ’New Sudan,’ vision a unified Sudan to South Sudan. In the end, my friend(s) you’ll find it will not work. It will be ghastlier than you can even imagine."

    Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang’s group viewed Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s group retreat as a defeat to Anya-Nya II, and as such; "the next step must be to chase them until their ringleaders are eliminated and/or caught alive." The second engagement between the Anya-Nya II and the SPLA/M at the battle of Thiajack (Adura) was not a big surprise to Anya-Nya II forces and as a result of that clash, the Any-Nya II forces did not only burned down the town which was under the control of SPLA forces at the time, but inflicted heavy loses on unionists’ side, killed many, scattered and pursued those who could run for their safety until they reached Mangok-Chatyier unknowingly. Yet even though, the victory was on separatists’ side, from the battle of Thiajack, a man who loves and value all human being from all walks of life regardless of ethnicities; a man whose vision has been for South Sudan independence; a man who qualified both in politics and military and above all, a SSLM/A [Anya-Nya II] leader, Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s life was cut short in that ruthless, aimless and epic conflicts between the separatists and unionists just simply because he opposed Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang’s self-claimed "New Sudan," vision. This shameful death will never be forgotten for generations to come.

    After receiving the bad news, regarding Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s death, CDR. Cobra Abdallah William Chuol Deng became wild and ordered the Anya-Nya II troops to "fight like mad dogs against the unionists to the last man." As a result, many lives were wasted from both sides in many engagements, counterattack after another. The SPLA/M activities were blocked by the Anya-Nya II forces across the greater Upper Nile until Lt. Gen. Gordon Koang Chuol declared that, "there is no need for Mr. Garang’s "New Sudan," vision to keep South Sudan hostage, but to reconcile with unionists and challenge Garang’s "New Sudan," vision within."

    DK. Koat Matthew played a crucial role in that strategic move, but a man of his words and fearless man, Lt. Gen. Lion Paulino Matip Nhial declined the move and said, "I’ll never united the Anya-Nya II with Marxist-Leninist SPLA/M under Mr.Garang’s leadership with his "New Sudan," vision. If I do which I doubt, that will be the day when I walk with my feet upside down." Which mean, over 80% of Anya-Nya II forces under the command of Lt. Gen. Lion Paulino Matip crossed the great Nile from East Bank to the West side, whereas Mayom became their Headquarters, meanwhile, the remaining 20% under the command of Lt. Gen. Rhino Gordon Koang merged with SPLA/M, which gave Garang’s group wide-gauge windows to capture many towns and garrisons from the common enemy [NIF/NCP] including Nasir town itself. Then, what if the whole Anya-Nya II [Separatists] merged with SPLA/M [Unionists] and confronted the common enemy as a unified force regardless of their differences? With no doubt, Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang’s "New Sudan," vision was a setback to Southern Sudanese unification since 1983 and its brings many advantages to the main enemy beyond unioinsts’ imagination.

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  • 11 August 2011 19:21, by Kim Deng

    The 2nd split between the Separatists and Unionists within SPLA/M in 1991

    There have been many Separatists within SPLA/M since 1983 who believed that Garang’s "New Sudan," vision must be challenged within until their strategy yielded signal towards Garang’s "New Sudan," vision in 1991 due to what we call "Nasir move," the very blessing day for Southern Sudanese, the Nasir Declaration of August 28, 1991 which gave birth to "self-determination for South Sudan. http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article27738 It divided the movement [SPLA/M] into two factions once again; the SPLA/M-Torit faction under the command of Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang with his self-claimed "United Socialist Secular/New Sudan," vision and the SPLM/A-Nasir faction under the leadership of Dr. Riek Machar Teny-Dhurgon with his "self-determination for South Sudan." http://www.africa.upenn.edu.hornet/sd_machar.html

    Dr. Riek was compelled to declare Nasir move, not only because Mr. Garang was running the movement like his own property which was acknowledged by Lt. Gen. Salva Kiir after it was already too late in 2004 when he find himself openly at odds with his superior, but due to lack of clear directions, objectives, principles and human rights for/in the movement. Therefore, if the Naath (Nuer) as a community has been hungry for leadership as Jaang (Dinka) always shamelessly claim it, why would Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut select Mr. Akuot Atem who is a Dinka by tribe to be the leader of the movement in 1983 if not only because the selection was rejected by Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang? Why would CDR. William Nyuon Bany aim his Pistol at Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut, CDR. Cobra Abdalla William Chuol Deng and their supporters just to secure another Dinkaman, Mr. Garang’s leadership?

    In the Garangist mental scheme, all the "anti-New Sudan," who still believe in Anya-Nya II vision of secession must be eliminated. As far as Garang knew, the SPLA forces of Torit faction under his command had every reason to believe that they had upper hand and that they could make it all the way to Nasir. Garang thought that the SPLM/A-Nasir faction under the command of Dr. Riek was very weak, demoralized and incapable of defending its Headquarters, Nasir let alone taking offensive operations. Shortly after the Nasir Declaration of August 28, 1991 was announced, Garang declared, "the Gang of two Drs," as he prefers to call them (Dr. Riek & Dr. Lam) "must be given their last blow." He went further, "we will break them down soon, and it is a question of time before we bring the separatists to the vision of no-return." After Garang’s statements were intercepted by SPLM/A-Nasir faction, Lt. Gen. Tiger Bol Koang declared that " the very existence of the SPLM/A-Nasir fation is in danger," and demanded that "all soldiers stand firm and fight to last drop of blood."

    Not surprisingly, the SPLA-Torit faction forces under the command of CDR. Rhino William Nyuon Bany launched an assault which routed almost instantly against the Anya-Nya II position along with few soldiers who appeared to be from SPLA-Nasir faction forces, burned down some villages from Nuer Genesis homeland Bentiu [Liech/Unity State] including Leer, Dr. Riek Machar’s hometown. What CDR. William Nyuon and his forces didn’t realize at first was that in the second half of September, Lt. Gen. Lion Paulino Matip already redeploying many of his troops [Anya-Nya II] to prepare for "Operation Typhoon." Instead of accepting their fate, the Any-Nya II fought back with a ferocity that stunned the ill-prepared Torit-faction. Most of Torit-faction troops were ground-up by the Anya-Nya II forces. The Any-Nya II forces under the command of Lt. Gen. Lion Paulino Matip did not only inflicted heavy losses on Torit-faction, but pushed back William’s forces and penetrated deep inside BEG. This campaign against CDR. William’s forces, compelled them to retreat from the area just after Lt. Gen. Lion Paulino Matip sent in more reinforcements.

    But the SPLA-Torit faction forces under the command of Lt. Gen. Salva Kiir and Lt. Gen. Kuol Manyang Juuk who were deployed from the direction of Kongoor and Pochalla respectively to wipe out Dr. Riek Machar’s forces as ordered and predicted by Mr. Garang, failed miserably from their suicide attempt, instead encircled and pursued like hunting dogs chase rabbits or deer by Dr. Riek’s forces under the command of Lt. Gen. Tiger Bol Koang and CDR. Tiger Koang Banypiny. As a result, almost all the surrounding garrison-posts under the control of SPLA/M-Torit faction: Duk Padiet, Panyagor, Kongoor, Twic East, Mading Bor ... plus some part of BEG were burned down to ash when the "Operation Typhoon," was launched as the two Heroes (Bol Koang & Koang Banypiny) call it. Garang understimated the SPLM/A-Nasir faction military strength, but his commanders on the ground knew they were often paying a heavier price of them than expected in terms of casualties-and that, in many areas, the Torit faction advance wasn’t moving as swiftly as they had hoped. Garang’s commanders were preoccupied with the more immediate goal: ensuring that their troops would maintain their progress as they prepared to strike Nasir faction from all directions.

    Dr. Riek ordered his troops to withdraw after reaching Jumeza in greater Equartoria. The SPLA forces under Torit faction suffered tremendous losses and their mission to bring "the Gang of two alive or dead and trash the self-determination for Southern Sudanese into garbage bin for good," as Garang declared earlier before the war widespread like a wildfire beyond his imagination, failed miserably rather than vice-versa. A straggering pace that reflected the disarray of Garang’s subordinates encountered in most of the areas under attack. Torit, Kapoeta, Yei ... were on the verge of cowardice and panic-mongering evacuation until the common enemy overan almost all the liberated areas without any resistance from Garang’s SPLA/M-Torit faction. Why did the SPLA/M-Torit faction fail to withstand its ground?

    Many areas including major towns: Torit, Kapoeta, Mading Bor ... were recaptured and/or surrendered to the common enemy without a fight as a result of split. The remaining few garrisons/towns under the control of Torit faction were on the verge of panic of evacuation either to Uganda or Kenya refugees’ camps as well. Garang was blinded by his burning conviction that Torit faction has to depeat and subjugates the Nasir faction, a movement that he contemptuously dismissed as "a Gang of two." Garang himself suffered a near psychological collapse as his faction looked as though it might implode. Garang’s forces should have been crushed/break down and/or chased up to Kenya/Uganda-Sudan borders if Dr. Riek was for military option rather than reconcilation through peaceful dialogues. Garang’s "New Sudan," vision did not accomplish anything, but setbacks, chaos, death, subjugation by terror and epic conflics between the separatists and unionists. It was Garang’s ambition in war that compelled Nasir faction to take immediate retaliatory-military countermeasures. The burning questions are: What prompted Garang to be the first to ignite the fire which he could not extinguish? Did Garang’s SPLA/M have the political will and muscles to confront both the main enemy (NIF/NCP) and the separatists at the same time?

    There is no connection between the Nuer vs. Dinka and Separatists vs. Unioinsts. Of course, the armed civilians from subject tribes intervened during confrontations between the unioinsts and separatists in those dark days, and their intervention should not justify that the war was between the two big tribes rather than reasons suitable to their own interests. There have been ups and downs between these two big rival tribes since 1800s and it still functioning as we speak. Duk Padiet which was burned down to ash twice by Mighty Nuer Warriors/Jech-in-Bor at the presence of GoSS and its army (SSAF/SPLA), proved beyond the reasonable doubt that Nuer vs. Dinka still exists.

    The Nuer ethnic group has never been thirsty for leadership/power as some folks may believe especially the Dinka, as a matter of fact the movement [SPLA/M] from its first two years, it was mainly dominated by Nuer ethnic group. The first two battalions [104 & 105] or Jamus & Tumsah almost all the troops were from Nuer tribe and if in doubts, don’t hesitate to consult someone like Lt. Gen. Salva Kiir, Lt. Gen. James Gathoth Mai, Lt. Gen. Oyiey Deng Ajack, Mr. Governor, Taban Deng Gai, S.G. Pagan Amum, Mrs. Nyandeng Mabior, but just for your information.

    Many elements from Anya-Nya II who deserted conditionally joined the SPLA/M within 1983. CDR. Rhino William Nyuon Bany who is believed to be the one to bring Garang to power is a Nuer by tribe. Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut and his group wanted another Dinkaman, Mr. Kuot Atem to be the leader of the movement, but Garang and his group did not only rejected the offer, intead wanted Garang to lead the movement after the Dergue regime of Mr. Mengistu Haile Mariam secured the "New Sudan," vision for them. The blessing day for Southern Sudanese, the August 28, 1991 of Nasir Declaration was not a mean to hijack the leadership from Dinka as many people may assume, but a strategic move to force Garang and his disciples to make a U-turn from "United Socialist Sercular/New Sudan," vision to self-determination for the people of Southern Sudan. Therefore, base on all the above mentioned factors, it demonstrated that, the Nuer as a community has never been hungry for leadership/power and this must refute Dinkas’ claims.

    And of course, as a result of Nasir move, Garang divorced and abandoned the alliance, called the SPLA/M 1st National Convention at Chukudum in 1994 and the self-determination for South Sudan was the first agenda in that Convention. The movement changed from its former name, SPLA/M as it was wel-known back then to SPLM/A. Garang put self-determination for South Sudan to be the first agenda/priority whenever there is a peace talks with Khartoum government and Garang himself eventually signed for it [self-determination for Southern Sudanese] in CPA. Garang gave up his "New Sudan," vision, a vision he always refers as a "vision of no-return." This raised too many unsettling questions from his allies especially the inner circle of NDA, Nuba Mountains and Blue Nile who were not only oblivious, but also betrayed by his self-observed "New Sudan," vision thereafter they realized that Garang shamelessly made a U-turn which left them in illusion.

    The right of self-determination has been eloquently championed and ariculated nationally and internationally by the Anya-Nya II and SSIM/A since 1975. The Nasir Declaration on August 28, 1991 has a democratic and an inalienable right to all people as well as conflict resolutions. The National Democratic Alliance (NDA) an umbrella of the traditional Northern political parties, the former Marxist-Leninist SPLA/M and the National Islamic Fundamentalist (NIF/NCP) regime in Khartoum were all asthmatic to cencept of the right of self-determination. Thus, no matter what the so called traditional parties do, they do not have the trust and confident of the South for their deception and unilateral abrogation and dishonored of many agreements. The SPLA/M alliance with NDA was a repeat of the past, which SPLA/M should have not fail to understand its future implications for the South once the so called NDA gets the wheels of the power in Khartoun.

    Then, why remain separated if the former Marxist-Leninist SPLA/M led by Garang relinquished its "New Sudan," vision after it was forced by Nasir move to adopt the only sole objective for the movement, the self-determination for South Sudan? Leadership has never been a big concern from separatists’ political point of view since 1983 as some people may blindly believe, but directions, objectives, principles and human rights for/in the movement. The SPLA/M division between the separatists and unioinsts should not justify the merits to classify the SPLM/A and/or GoSS as a Dinka movement/gov’t just simply because the two leaders; Col. Dr. Garang and Lt. Gen. Salva Kiir hail from that ethnic group. If this is the case, as some folks claim it, Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut, Col. Dr. John Garang, should have not joined the Anya-Nya I [SSLM/A] under the leadership of Mr. Joseph Lagu, but viewed it as Baria’s movement.

    Kim Dng is a military Historian, SSAF officer from Headquaters, Bilpam and he can be reached at kdeng75@yahoo.com

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  • 11 August 2011 19:24, by Kim Deng

    Nuer occupation/invasions and their effects on other Jurs (Dinka, Anyuak, Burun…)

    The vast area appropriated by the Nuer during the nineteenth century was formerly occupied by a Dinka, Anyuak and Burun population. The fate of this population is one of the most interesting questions pertaining to Nuer expansion. How many Dinka, Anyuak, Burun… were killed by the Nuer? How many died of starvation? How many migrated to other areas? And how many were assimilated into Nuer community?

    Although Nuer territorial appropriation had virtually ceased by the early 1800s, the Nuer continued to raid/invade the Dinka for cattle, Anyuak and Burun for land until present.

    Three large-scale Nuer raids against the Southern Dinka that took place in 1914, 1916, and 1928 are of particular interest. In each of these instances the Nuer Warriors penetrated over ninety miles into Dinka territory and twice captured over five thousand head of cattle. These raids/invasions were, in many respects, comparable to the initial thrusts of the Nuer during their earlier period of territorial expansion, and document the scale of devastation wrought by Nuer aggression.

    During the closing phase of Nuer expansion, the Gaawar and Lou Nuer pushed the Ric, Ghol, and Nyarraweng Dinka south as far as Faijing in present-day Twij County. The Nuer progressively gained the upper hand in these conflicts, and in 1906 launched a large-scale raid on the Faijing settlement that forced the Dinka to withdraw about sixteen miles further south to Kongor. Then in 1908 the Gaawar Nuer attacked the Dinka at Kongor, burning their crops and settlements, killing over a hundred people and took over eighty captives mostly young girls.

    In 1908-10, the British sought to end the Nuer occupation toward Dinkaland and established control over the area. A new border between the Nuer and Dinka was established at the favor of Dinka at Duk Padiet, fifty miles north of Kongor, and the Ghol, Ric, and Nyarraweng were awarded about four thousand aquare miles of territory they had previously lost during Nuer expansion. Although a substantial portion of this grant represented an uninhabited no-man’s-land between the Nuer and the Dinka, the Nuer were also required to relinquish territory under active occupation. The Nuer undoubtedly viewed the transfer as a government-sponsored Dinka invasion.

    In February, 1910, several months before the Duk Padiet post was established, the Gaawar Nuer attacked a group of Ghol Dinka who had precipitously reoccupied Faijing, kill over two hundred individuals and captured ninety captives along with countless cattle. Less than five days later, a large party of Lou Nuer crossed the government-delineated border and overran the Ghol and Nyarraweng Dinka villages around Duk Padiet, capturing five thousands head of cattle and inflicting “severe losses” on the Dinka populace. The police post at Duk Padiet was also attacked, but the Nuer Warriors were repulsed, losing twenty-six men while killing six policemen and wounding three in the engagement.

    The Nuer Warriors raiding party pressed south to within a few hours walk of the government station at Bor, ninety miles deep into Dinka territory. In the course of these raids/invasions they captured “large numbers” of cattle, young women, and children (in addition to the five thousand cattle noted above). In the area under attack, the Bor Dinka “suffered very severely” (ibid.). After a span of less than three weeks, the Nuer Warriors successfully withdrew with their spoils.

    Elements of the Ghol and Nyarraweng Dinka who fled the Nuer advance were reportedly harried by the Twij Dinka, who “stole all the women and cattle they could lay hands on.” Two other large groups of Dinka refugees moved north into Nuer territory in an attempt to evade the Lou Nuer onslaught.

    In May 1916, the Nuer Warriors again struck deep into Dinka territory, penetrating to within twenty miles of the Bor post. At this point, a contingent of 500 Nuer tribesmen was spotted by Dinka scouts sent out to reconnoiter, and a large number of Dinka accompanied by a Sudanese army officer and some soldiers moved out to intercept them. After initial contact was made, the Nuer retreated with the soldiers and Dinka in pursuit. Employing a stratagem they were to use on other occasions, the Nuer thus drew their antagonists into an ambush. Suddenly, the Nuer Warriors were heavily reinforced and attacked in strength, slaughtering, scattering the Dinka and wiping the army detachment and kill them all to the last man.

    The following year (1917) the British launched a major punitive expedition against the Lou Nuer, resulted in heavy casualties have been inflicted on both sides. Few days later, the Gaawar and elements of Lou Nuer launched a large-scale raid that penetrated deep into Southern Dinka territory, following the now familiar pattern established in 1914 and 1916. Seventy villages were burned down to ashes and the crops destroyed, over two hundred Dinka were killed, four hundred young women and children were taken as captives and three thousand cattle taken. A Nuer raiding party with an estimated strength of fifteen hundred Warriors also attacked the government post at Duk Faiwil in the course of this raid. The Nuer succeeded in driving off fifty head of government cattle, but suffered heavy casualties: forty-eight men killed and eighty wounded.

    Being further removed from early incursions of the Nuer, the Twi, like the Bor, have suffered far less from yearly raids/invasions and have fattened upon their brother Dinka’s misfortunes. There is no doubt that they (the Twi) regarded the yearly flight for refuge into their country by the Nyarraweng and Ric as a chance for profit and were in the habit of annexing a large percentage of the herds of these tribes when the latter retired disorganized upon them for support.

    Dinka alliance with the Nuer had analogous effects. The alliance of a Dinak tribal section with a segment of one Nuer tribe provided security against raids by other Nuer only for that particular Dinka section, and only if the latter lived among their Nuer kin and affine. Moreover, the presence of such Dinka elements within a Nuer tribe did not deter them from raiding other Dinka (including, in some instances, other sections of the same Dinka tribe). Since Dinka refugees were often derived of their cattle by members of other Dinka tribes, they were not reluctant to urge their Nuer hosts to raid/invade the latter.

    The Nuer Warriors typically attack a Dinka village at dawn when the cattle are lodged in shelters or tethered near the homesteads. As a result of Nuer Warriors invasions, many Dinka families come into Nuer country to escape hunger and the other attendant miseries to which they have been reduced by constant Nuer raiding/invasion that always leave them cattleless. The Dinka seldom offer any concert resistance, but rather sought to escape with as many cattle as possible. Later a counterattack might be undertaken with the aid of reinforcements from other communities. This strategy of initial withdrawal conceded the destruction of the settlement and in harvest season raids, the loss of grain supplies.

    In 1912, the Eastern Jikany Nuer and Lou Nuer undertook their own reprisal against the Anyuak. The Nuer Warrios invasion/raid was directed against the Anyuak villages on the North bank of the Baro/Sobat River from the Ethiopian border to Itang/Achua, a distance about fifty miles. Later reports indicated “All the villages in this formerly prosperous neighborhood have been devastated.

    Ten Nuer contigents of three hundred men each could simultaneously attack as many communities and later regroup at one or two captured villages with their stolen cattle to await any counterattack that might be launched. A large [Raik Dinka] raiding surprised a Nuer village and, Dinka-like, sat down to a happy day wrangling over the spoil. It was their last, for meanwhile the Nuer Warriors surrounded them, and in the ensuing panic slaughtered them to the last man.

    The discipline of Nuer forces is also demonstrated by a remarkable capacity of continues to press and assault while sustaining very heavy casualties. When, the Eastern Jikany Nuer Warriors were attacked early in 1912 by a heavy armed Ethiopian force of Gala/Oromo and Amhara, intent on taking slaves, the Nuer lost over 100 men in the course of overrunning the invaders’ machine gun emplacement. The invaders’ (Ethiopians) mission was not only failed, but also lost over 300 soldiers and 50 missing. The Nuer also made a number of concerted attacks on fortified government posts. In one instance in which a Nuer raiding party was intercepted by a government patrol, the Nuer lost 85 men in the initial engagement but nevertheless counterattacked the same night and again the following day before withdrawing to home territory.

    It is also quite clear that Nuer military domination of the Dinka and other Jurs was grounded in their capacity to field a numerically superior fighting force, and in the organizational features through which mobilization on a large scale was effective. Other aspects of the Nuer advantage were secondary and derivative. Nuer Warriors tactics are relatively simple and straightforward.

    Systematic Nuer cattle raids/invasions, conducted on an annual basis, created a periphery of debilitated Dinka communities that yielded readily to Nuer territorial appropriation. Seasoned Nuer raiding parties were pitted against famine-ridden Dinka groups struggling to survive through periods of scarcity resulting from previous raids. Under the circumstances it is not surprising that the Dinka were unable to mount any effective resistance to continuing Nuer territorial expansion.

    As this expansion proceeded, displaced Dinka groups were pushed into adjacent areas where they came into conflict with the existing population whose land and grazing rights they infringed. These conflicts undoubtedly contributed to a lack of unity in meeting subsequent Nuer attacks. Successful Nuer cattle raids thus engendered conditions favorable to territorial expansion, and the continuation of this expansion was further facilitated by the aftermath of prior Dinka defeat.

    Persons of the Dinka decent form probably at least half the population of most [Nuer] sub-tribes. These Dinka are either children of captives or immigrants who have been brought up as Nuer, or are themselves captives and immigrants who are residing permanently among Nuer. They are “Jaang-Nath,” “Dinka-Nuer,” and, it is said, “caa Naath,” “they have become Nuer.”

    There must also have been pockets of the original Dinka, Anyuak and Burun occupants of the country overrun by the Nuer Warriors who submitted and gave up their language and habits in favor of those of the Nuer. At any rate, there are today in all Nuer sub-tribes many small Dinka lineages and village are often named after them (Dinka, Anyuak, Burun…)

    Nuer raids/invasions always resulted in the capture of substantial numbers of young women and children. Captives taken by the Nuer always includes boys, girls, and young women of
    Marriageable age, but the captives always outnumber the casualties inflicted on Dinka, Anyuak, Burun… by the Nuer Warriors. The loss of a single productive female is thus estimated to reduce her natal population by 3.4 individuals several generations later, and to add a like increment to the population she joins.

    The capture of 372 young women and girls a year during the period of 1818 to 1905 would remove 32,625 productive females from the Central Dinka and Anyuak population and thus eventually decrease that population by 110,915 individuals. The capture of 125 boys a year over the same period would decrease the Central Dinka and Anyuak population by an additional 5,250 persons. In sum, the proposed rate of capture would effectively transfer 116,165 persons from Central Dinka and Anyuak population to that of the Nuer.

    North of the Sobat River, the British faced even more formidable and intransigent opposition from the Eastern Jikany Nuer who lived along the Ethiopian frontier. They were well armed with rifles and ammunitions from Ethiopia and raid neighbors, the Burun and Koma to the North, the Dinka and Anyuak to the South – as well as Ethiopian tribes in the Western foothills.

    Under the command of Lt. Col. Bacon a powerful patrol was finally launched against the Eastern Jikany Nuer from Nasir in January 1920, complete with machine guns and airplanes. The three sections of Eastern Jikany Nuer Warriors attacked the advanced troops; sustaining heavy losses conflicted on both sides. The Jikany Warriors were led by Captain of war, Mr. Mut Dung

    The Dinka, Anyuak, Burun… had no recourse other than withdrawal. Under these circumstances, the rapid Nuer Conquest/occupation of the vast Western Dinka region [Mayom, Mankien…], Southern Dinka region [Nyuong Nuer territory], Central Dinka region [Fangak, Ayod, Waat…], Eastern Dinka, Anyuak and Burun region [Eastern Jikany Nuer and Lou Nuer territory] is not difficult to understand.

    Had the Nuer ever wished to occupy the whole greater Upper Nile, from Renk to Mading Bor and from Ruweng/Biemnom to Buma-Gambella, it seems unlikely that the other coward Jurs (Jaang, Bar, Burun, Chai…) could have stopped them.

    RS: NUER CONQUEST

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    • 11 August 2011 20:05, by Michael Angelo

      Kim Deng,

      Do you think such a comment will bring unity amongst ourselves as Southerners? Anyhow, keep up your work to appease your community. Needless to say, Dr. Riak’s apology is welcome, but its doesn’t earned him any credit to be considered as a next president of the Republic of South Sudan.

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  • 11 August 2011 19:34, by Kim Deng

    Coward Jaang/Slaves,

    Let Dr. Machar come up openly as someone mensioned so far rather that 3rd party. Otherwise, you’re just wasting your time wishing Gatraam-mi-raan an apology to suit your conspiracy against him.

    Who is going to apologize for what the Mighty Nuer Warriors did to your coward Jurs (Jaang, Bar, Chai...) in 1800s?

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  • 11 August 2011 19:51, by Deng Tut

    Dr. Machar apologized song joyful to others communities but difficult to analyses by the opposites communities including his rivaled in politics from different communities; I can concluded that, the happiness and peaceful settlement will flowing in our community in South Sudan as Dinka Bor plus their leaders recognized and considered the facts of the apologized of H. E. Vice President. In my observation no body from Bor Community will claimed anymore about 1991 as the passed has been forget and forgive for all and shall be definitive if it was meant it; therefore if John Garang was alive today may apologizer for the damages, horrific death that he cause to Nuer communities especially; Nuer Gajaak, Lou Nuer, Gawar, Fangak and Nasir whereby if there is a peace and reconciliation both factions may come together and move for the peaceful settlement which poisons their communities since many decades.

    Dears readers there was many reason of conflicts in the whole region which any person couldn’t denied it today if we are digging deeply the causes of the conflicts among us. Only the ICC can come to be a mediate amongst us. It is better for us to forgive and forget for the sack of this beautiful land of the brave fighters and to recall for peace in our communities; it is only solution for the next generation to come where they will pursuit in harmony.

    The Nuer community couldn’t be worry about the step that has been taken by Dr. Machar concerning 1991 conflicts which he end up to apologized to Bor community; perhaps he had reviewed his relationship with that community and/or at the same time reinforce his relationship with them which will be bad for Dinka Bhr-el-Ghazal politically or in any general term for the future of their leaders who know, person?

    Dinka Rumbek couldn’t complaint against Dr. Machar themselves were violated the rules of International convention, especially those of Human Rights treaties where they were mistreated their owned compatriots from different communities of South; how come Mr. John claimed of the apologizer of Dr. Machar; in any case or if you lodge your grievances in the court, but let me assure you before your intervention into that case; in the eye of law your grievances will be seen as a tribalism hatred and couldn’t be success in any tribunal in these World including ICC. I hope you can be realistic on that matter otherwise you will be charge against defamation if you persist.

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  • 11 August 2011 19:51, by Deng Tut

    Dr. Machar apologized song joyful to others communities but difficult to analyses by the opposites communities including his rivaled in politics from different communities; I can concluded that, the happiness and peaceful settlement will flowing in our community in South Sudan as Dinka Bor plus their leaders recognized and considered the facts of the apologized of H. E. Vice President. In my observation no body from Bor Community will claimed anymore about 1991 as the passed has been forget and forgive for all and shall be definitive if it was meant it; therefore if John Garang was alive today may apologizer for the damages, horrific death that he cause to Nuer communities especially; Nuer Gajaak, Lou Nuer, Gawar, Fangak and Nasir whereby if there is a peace and reconciliation both factions may come together and move for the peaceful settlement which poisons their communities since many decades.

    Dears readers there was many reason of conflicts in the whole region which any person couldn’t denied it today if we are digging deeply the causes of the conflicts among us. Only the ICC can come to be a mediate amongst us. It is better for us to forgive and forget for the sack of this beautiful land of the brave fighters and to recall for peace in our communities; it is only solution for the next generation to come where they will pursuit in harmony.

    The Nuer community couldn’t be worry about the step that has been taken by Dr. Machar concerning 1991 conflicts which he end up to apologized to Bor community; perhaps he had reviewed his relationship with that community and/or at the same time reinforce his relationship with them which will be bad for Dinka Bhr-el-Ghazal politically or in any general term for the future of their leaders who know, person?

    Dinka Rumbek couldn’t complaint against Dr. Machar themselves were violated the rules of International convention, especially those of Human Rights treaties where they were mistreated their owned compatriots from different communities of South; how come Mr. John claimed of the apologizer of Dr. Machar; in any case or if you lodge your grievances in the court, but let me assure you before your intervention into that case; in the eye of law your grievances will be seen as a tribalism hatred and couldn’t be success in any tribunal in these World including ICC. I hope you can be realistic on that matter otherwise you will be charge against defamation if you persist.

    Nyadawech W.P

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  • 11 August 2011 20:16, by Kim Deng

    By Gatkuoth Lam

    July 3, 2008 — Members of the Dinka Bor community around the world have turned the 28th August a day on which they propagate every year claiming that thousands of their community members were massacred in Bor town in 1991 by the then forces of the SPLM/A-Nasir faction led by Dr. Riek Machar Teny-Dhurgon.

    Dr. Machar defected with Commander Dr. Lam Akol Ajawin and Commander Gordon Koang Chol with their forces in a historic move for better change from the old SPLM/A led by the late, Dr. John Garang de Mabior, which Garang then re-named ‘SPLM/A-Torit faction’ after the split. The move was declared on 28th August 1991 in Nasir town in Upper Nile region. The reasons for the split were clearly articulated by the then SPLM/A-Nasir faction leadership and were understood and still being understood by the concerned people of Southern Sudan in particular and the international community at large. Before the split, the SPLM/A had no clear objective for which the people of Southern Sudan fought and lost two million souls. There were no proper structures put in place for clear responsibilities, which would also guarantee collective decision making in strategizing for the Movement’s programs and executing its war against the Khartoum government. There were also gross violations of human rights by late Garang’s leadership. Dr. Garang was using the Movement as his own property. I will shed some light on these issues in the next paragraphs below.

    Since the inception of the SPLM/A in 1983 until 1991, if you asked any SPLA officer what he was fighting for, he would not provide a clear answer simply because he did not know what he was fighting for – or simply say he was not enlightened on the cause of war. I remember when I was in Itang in 1986 and asked a friend of mine who was also a SPLA officer what he was fighting for, he just replied “I don’t know but John Garang knows”. And he continued to say “to me I think we are fighting to liberate South Sudan territory from the Arabs who dominate us.” Even those who thought to be SPLM politicians were not sure about the objective for which the war was launched. And to inquire that from Garang himself for possible correction was deadly.. Tens of thousands of SPLA soldiers lost their lives in battles while not clear about the cause they died for and the destiny they wanted to reach and achieve. This was the pre-1991 situation in the Movement.

    There were no proper structures established in the Movement although there were sufficient educated SPLM cadres who could run every necessary structure if established at the time for better strategies on policies and successful execution of the war. Dr. Garang instead established only what he called ‘Political Military High Command’ in 1980s in which he installed semi-literate personalities on most senior positions in that single structure. Dr. Machar was a member of that structure, but intentionally put in the bottom of the list by Garang. The Political Military High Command was mandated by Garang himself to look into matters related to both political and military. The group’s most powerful personalities lacked any political experience and could not even see what was wrong with the objective of the Movement, let alone the importance of establishing a separate structure for SPLM. The way they executed the war was not also professional and this might explain why they could not capture a single major city among the three capital cities of the three regions in the South for twenty one years until the CPA found a way out in early 2005. Worst of all, members of the Political Military High Command could not meet to decide what to do next as a collective body. Many of them did not even know their faces, they just heard of each other’s existence somewhere. Those who were fighting in the battle fields like Dr. Riek Machar in the early years of SPLM/A were depending on orders from Dr. John Garang without their views being put into consideration on how to effectively wage the war.

    Late Garang also conspired against his colleagues he perceived to be a threat to his leadership because of they were highly educated. He used to expose PhD holders to battle fields instead of utilizing them to formulate policies for the SPLM as a political wing.

    He ordered Dr. Peter Adwok Nyaba to attack the government forces with child-soldiers in Jokou town. Dr. Nyaba lost one of his legs in the operation and came back with few survivors of his child-soldiers.

    Garang also ordered Dr. Riek Machar Teny, another PhD holder in Strategic Planning in Industry to attack Malut in Upper Nile, which Dr. Machar captured in mid 1980s. After capturing Malut, Garang ordered Machar again to move up to Mayom in Unity state to capture it where the present President of the Republic, Omer Hassen el Beshir was the commanding officer in Mayom before he became the President in 1989. Dr. Machar’s forces got into very fierce battles with Beshir’s forces. His forces wounded Beshir in his leg, but failed to capture the town because they could not get reinforcement.

    Late Garang also ordered Dr. Lam Akol Ajawin, another PhD holder in Petroleum Engineering to move to eastern Upper Nile to command SPLA forces in the area in 1980s.

    Gross human rights violations were committed by late Garang’s forces against a number of ethnic groups in Southern Sudan, which included massacres. One of the worst massacres committed by Garang was the war he launched against the Gaajaak sub-clan of Jikany Nuer in 1985. The war was launched against the whole sub-clan simply because of an argument over fish between a villager of the sub-clan and a SPLA soldier. The villager went fishing with some of his colleagues, caught a fish and was ready to take it home. Some SPLA soldiers came to the river, and as it was common behavior among the forces at that time, wanted to take the fish by force from the villager. The villager resisted and was then shot dead by one of the SPLA soldiers. Villagers from a nearby village heard the gun shot, rushed to the scene and found their colleague dead. They immediately retaliated by killing a number of SPLA soldiers on the spot. The remnants of those soldiers ran for their lives back to Bilpam, which was the then SPLA General Headquarters on the Ethiopian border. They reported the incident at the Headquarters. The SPLM/A leadership was furious and decided that the whole sub-clan be disciplined by wiping them out of their villages. This was how the war against the Gaajaak sub-clan of the Jikany-Nuer started in 1985, resulting in untold massacres of human beings and their cattle.

    Many people who used to hear late Garang’s ambitious comments on the territory occupied by the Gaajaak sub-clan before the war knew that the fish incident was used as a pretext for war against the Gaajaak. Dr. Garang used to tell his Bor intellectuals that the territory occupied by Gaajaak was in fact a Dinka Bor land. He used to explain that the Dinka Bor community was displaced from the land during the Nuer expansion from Bentiu in Western Upper Nile hundreds of years ago. Perhaps by wiping out the Gaajaak from the territory, he would have encouraged the Dinka Bor community to resettle in the land so that they border Ethiopia and resolve their current status of being landlocked in the Bor’s tiny territory in Jonglei. He was not happy also with the way the Nuer inhabit a huge territory without being isolated by other tribes – their land which extends from Western Upper Nile bordering the Nuba Mountains in Southern Kordofan in the north across the River Nile in Upper Nile region up to the Ethiopian border in the East.

    Dr. Garang dispatched both late Kerubino Kwanyin Bol and late William Nyuon Bany to personally command that war against the Gaajaak sub-clan. For those of you with short-lived memories, late Commander Kerubino Kwanyin Bol was the Deputy Chairman of the SPLM and Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the SPLA forces. He was number two to Dr. John Garang. Late Commander William Nyuon Bany was the Chief of Staff of the SPLA forces; the post previously occupied by Comrade Salva Kiir Mayardit and currently occupied by Comrade Lt.. General Oyai Deng Ajak. You can imagine how Garang was determined to entirely wipe out the Gaajaak by letting loose those powerful military commanders to massacre the unarmed Gaajaak sub-clan. Both Kerubino and William went to the battle fields to personally command the fighting. The war resulted into untold losses where thousands of people were killed, several villages completely wiped out and burnt to ashes. However, the SPLA won some of the battles but lost the war against the community! Dr. Garang failed to get the territory back to Dinka Bor community. In that war against a sub-clan, the SPLM/A lost a highly educated son of Southern Sudan, Dr. Francis Ngor, a PhD holder after late Garang ordered him to command a force against the community and his forces were annihilated. He was captured and killed by the villagers on spot.

    The two parties finally decided to stop the fighting and came back to the peace table and forgave themselves for the sin. That crime against humanity committed by Dr. Garang against the Gaajaak community might have been forgiven but not forgotten. Of course the Gaajaak community may not file criminal cases in The Hague against those three most powerful leaders of the SPLM/A at the time because they are no longer with us on this earth. I personally ask God to forgive late Garang and his colleagues.

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  • 11 August 2011 20:18, by Kim Deng

    Similar atrocities were also committed against other ethnic groups in the South such as the Toposa, Murle, etc. by Dr. Garang’s forces in the 1990s. All are documented!

    The claim by the Dinka Bor community intellectuals that the 1991 SPLM/A split resulted in the massacre of Bor by the then Nasir faction leadership was and still a propaganda campaign against personalities like Dr. Riek Machar. Of course, there was a fight over Bor town which actually resulted in the lost of, maybe, thousands of lives. This cannot be disputed! But who can the Bor personally hold responsible? The fight over the control of Bor town to my best knowledge was not ordered by the leader of the then SPLM/A-Nasir faction, Dr. Riek Machar Teny-Dhurgon. These were some of Dr. Machar’s military officers who felt very angry after hearing the news that Garang’s forces were killing in cold blood Nuer officers who were on Garang’s side in Equatoria region. Dr. Garang’s forces, particularly from the Dinka ethnic group decided to kill in cold blood every Nuer officer on their side in Torit town simply because a Nuer leader has challenged Garang’s leadership in Nasir town.

    These angry Nuer military officers from the SPLM/A Nasir faction mobilized some of the Nuer armed civilians who are neighbours to Dinka Bor and attacked Bor town. They had fierce battle with Garang’s forces stationed in the town. After several hours of fighting they overran the town, which resulted in lost of hundreds or thousands of lives and massive displacement of Dinka Bor population up to Equatoria region. I personally feel sad about the incident. But the Dinka Bor community members should not use it as a propaganda campaign against Dr. Riek Machar for reasons best known to them. This is a pointed finger at the wrong person. They should learn the truth about the incident, what provoked it and who organized the attacks.

    The same was true with the attack on Malakal town in 1993 by the armed Nuer civilians organized by the late Wurnyang Garkek. Late Wurnyang claimed to have been possessed by God’s spirits and that the spirits directed him to help liberate the South. He successfully organized a force that was popularly known as the ‘White Army’ from the Nuer civil population and ordered them to capture the capital of Upper Nile region, Malakal. They attacked the town and captured about seventy-five percent (75%) of the town. The Sudan government forces held certain positions in the outskirts of the town. Because Wurnyang’s armed civilians were not trained soldiers and had no supplies of ammunitions, when they realized that they were running out of ammunitions, they started shouting in the town calling on their individual colleagues to supply them with some bullets if they had plenty. The government soldiers came to realize that these were just armed civilians and that they had run out of ammunitions. The government forces gave them a final full thrust and chased them out of the town. The town again fell under the full control of the government’s forces. The government forces first thought it was Dr. Riek Machar’s forces attacking the town, but this turned out to be somebody else organizing and ordering the attack on Malakal town.

    To me, as a person who has been in the SPLM/A since its inception in 1983, I see the 28th August 1991, split as one of the most blessings the people of Southern Sudan have received from their creator. Of course, the split resulted into setbacks when it came to military activities against the Khartoum government, but has revolutionized the SPLM system and set a clear objective for the satisfaction and achievement of the aspirations of the people of Southern Sudan.

    The 28th August 1991 Nasir Declaration, which was code-named ‘The Creeping Revolution’ under the then leadership of Dr. Riek Machar Teny-Dhurgon, called for Self-determination for the people of Southern Sudan to determine their political destiny. This is to be determined in a referendum on vote for separation or unity and to be supervised internationally in Southern Sudan. This patriotic call by the people of Southern Sudan was resisted by late Dr. Garang until the year 2002. Garang was instead calling for a United New Socialist Sudan in the 1980s (a vision he copied from Ethiopian President Mengistu Haile Mariam’s New Socialist Ethiopia). After Mengistu was overthrown, he then changed the vision in 1990s to a United Secular Sudan (or New Sudan as he called it). The viability of this big dream or vision was in question as many people saw and still see it as just a beautiful dream but unrealistic in its achievement and was meant to confuse the cause of the people of Southern Sudan given the complexity of the problems in the Sudan and their deep rooted origins. Subsequent American administrations in Washington DC dream of a ‘New World Order’ which they now find unrealistic to achieve for the whole world. Every body can dream beautifully, but making the dream come true is the question. We need to be realistic in our visions!

    The 28th August 1991 Declaration also called for democratization of the Movement by putting its structures in place, particularly the arm of the SPLM which was treated subordinate and incorporated into the arm of the SPLA by Garang’s leadership. This explains why in the old days of the Movement, Dr. Garang put the SPLA first by calling the Movement the ‘SPLA/SPLM’ instead of the ‘SPLM/SPLA’. This was corrected after the 1991 historic move for better change. The Movement was also lacking its legal institutions. Garang was every thing! After being challenged reasonably by the Nasir faction leadership on these issues, he reacted by organizing and calling for the First SPLM National Convention in Chukudum in 1995. Before the Convention, and in the months leading to the time the Convention was called for, Garang felt much pressure on his leadership from within his faction and began to understand the need to establish structures for the Movement. There were voices who called for change on how the Movement was being run by one man.

    For fear that many more intellectuals and military Commanders would continue to defect to Dr. Riek Machar’s faction, Dr. Garang found himself toothless and could not resort to his old ways of either murdering his political and military opponents from within in cold blood or silencing them in prisons without trial. His leadership survival at that time after the split significantly depended on how Dr. Machar would handle his coup against him. If Dr. Machar were to choose to overthrow Garang militarily as the last resort by attacking his positions in Equatoria region, Garang’s leadership would have come to pass in those years. Machar instead chose to engage Garang in dialogue to resolve the issues that caused the split and would only fight in self-defense if Garang attacked his positions. This helped Garang to re-organize his forces that were in the state of panic. Luckily and by chance, Garang used Machar’s peace talks with the Khartoum government to accuse him of collaborating with Khartoum. This also helped him to regain support from those in the region and Western world who wanted the war to continue in Southern Sudan. Dr. Machar’s position not to escalate fighting by removing Garang using military might in Equatoria region, where he shifted his bases and fighting force, resulted in sharp disagreements with his colleagues which also resulted in further splits within the Nasir faction. Can you see this dilemma which was not completely taken note of by Garang’s faction?

    The 28th August 1991 popular Declaration prompted its leadership to strategize on how the liberation struggle could be achieved. The leadership chose the path of peace as the way forward. They engaged themselves in a series of peace talks with the present government in Khartoum in Abuja One and Abuja Two and subsequently signed the Khartoum Peace Agreement in 1997. Dr. Riek Machar incorporated other factions which also defected from late Dr. Garang’s faction and became their overall leader. These factions included the Bahr El-Ghazal Group (BGG), led by late Kerubino Kwanyin Bol, the Bor Group (BG), led by late Arok Thon Arok, the Equatoria Defense Forces (EDF), led by Dr. Theophillus Ochang Lotti, and some other groups. Dr. Machar signed the famous Khartoum Peace Agreement (KPA) on behalf of all the factions that joined his Movement, the South Sudan Independence Movement (SSIM) with its military wing, the South Sudan Defense Forces (SSDF). For the first time in the history of the Sudan, the Khartoum government conceded the right of self-determination for the people of Southern Sudan in the Agreement. This was also enshrined in the National Constitution of the Sudan in 1998, which clearly articulated that this right would be exercised in an internationally supervised referendum after four years from 1997. The referendum was to be exercised in Southern Sudan in the year 2001 about seven years ago.

    Dr. Garang at the time vowed that he would not sign any agreement with the Khartoum government under President Omer Hassen El – Beshir. He used to say that the Khartoum government was too deformed to be reformed and that he wanted it removed by military force. He called the Khartoum Peace Agreement a sell out despite the inclusion of the clause ‘self-determination’ in it plus many more achievements including Southern Sudan retaining a separate army. The significant thing I personally feel was missing in the Khartoum Peace Agreement was the involvement of the international community, which distanced itself from the Khartoum Peace Agreement on a number of interests that I don’t want to write about here. The Khartoum Peace Agreement, like any other agreements signed in Sudan, was violated by the Khartoum government in the year 2000. Dr. Machar, after championing self-determination in the Agreement, decided to resort to other strategies back in the bush to bring late Dr. John Garang to the developing peace process and indirectly revive the Khartoum Peace Agreement in a comprehensive form based on self-determination!

    On 6th January 2002, the two factions of Dr. Machar and Dr. Garang merged in Nairobi. This time with bold declaration that the two groups agreed to resolve the issues that led to the split within the SPLM/A on 28th August 1991.. The right of self-determination for the people of Southern Sudan as called for in the Nasir Declaration was officially accepted and became the official objective of the Movement to determine the future political status of the people of Southern Sudan. Democratization of the Movement and respect for human rights were re-affirmed because Garang had already adopted these principles after the 1991 split and before the merger in 2002. But the Merger Agreement recognized that more work needed to be done on these principles. The Nairobi Merger Agreement also called for a Second SPLM National Convention to be held within three months to elect the leadership of the ‘new’ SPLM. Dr. Garang delayed the convening of the Convention indefinitely for fear of being defeated in the election by Dr. Machar or any other candidate. The Merger Agreement also called for serious revival and resumption of peace talks with the Khartoum government.

    As a result of the Merger Agreement between the two leaders with renewed spirit and quest for peace, just after six months from the merger, the first protocol of the CPA on self-determination for the people of Southern Sudan was signed in Machakos, Kenya in July 2002. Commander Salva Kiir Mayardit, the then Deputy Chairman for Military Affairs signed the Protocol on behalf of the SPLM/A. The road to peace became irreversible!

    On 9th January 2005, the SPLM/A and the National Congress Party-led government signed the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA). Dr. Garang signed on behalf of the Movement while the then First Vice President of the Sudan, Ali Osman Mohamed Taha, signed on behalf of the Sudan government. If you read the CPA in comparison with the Khartoum Peace Agreement, you would be convinced that the CPA is not more than a revised text of the Khartoum Peace Agreement with the exception of the international support and the United Nations Peace Keeping Forces in the South. However, the effectiveness or not of the international support and the UN Peacekeeping forces in Southern Sudan is another thing one may evaluate.

    The clear message I want to send to those who might have been blinded by tribal sentiments and cheap propaganda against leaders who have greatly contributed or actually revolutionized our way forward as the people of Southern Sudan is that they should get realistic and honour these great leaders like Dr. Machar with utmost respect.. 28th August 1991 Declaration should not be used for negative propaganda, but instead be remembered as a blessed birth day on which a clear path for the liberation and freedom of the people of Southern Sudan was set. The road to our freedom is still long and painful! We need to get united as one people with one objective that will lead us to our desired destiny. Propagating on the so-called Dinka Bor massacres with fabricated negative stories attributed to innocent and great leaders like Dr. Riek Machar will not help the cause the Dinka Bor want to achieve in Southern Sudan or in a united Sudan.

    The author is based in southern Sudan.

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    • 11 August 2011 21:17, by Cadaai ?o?

      To me Deng you seem like History, but you stupid if you don’t the History of tribes. There is no what so call Dinka Bor massacre. You either call it Southeastern Dinka Massacre or Dinka Twic East Massacre where Dr. Garang came from.

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  • 11 August 2011 20:31, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

    Apologetic is not bad it is good sign.

    It is the feeling of the past wrong doing not to happen against. It is a good sign; Riek should educate his Nuer people not to fight the tribal war again in the south.

    The wise Nuer will accept that apology way not the tribal war way. Nuer Militants have intention to sweep out all Dinka from Junglei and UpperNile Ngok. Some family are closed down with no single survival in Ngok

    To bring southern communities together; share feeling, soul and yields ourselves by apology is good sign. Others people will have a courage of Nationality and harmony as family.

    Gordon Buay group are Refugee grown that have No single Nationality them if all Nuer are like Buay; they will never have chance in south.

    We need future Young generation that will put all bad things behind and come with new knowledge forward. 1985 SPLA in Jikany Nuer; SPLA did not confront direct with Nuer Civilians, those victim where in cross fire.

    Nuer Militants were using the civilians as protection shield, SPLA central command persecute many SPLA soldiers for Killing of Civilians.

    Nuer militant would just cause a fight among the civilians. The civilians get caught in bullets flying everywhere. What some Nuer preaches alway never benefit Nuer community and others Sudanese community in general among African people.

    Nguetbuny

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  • 11 August 2011 20:48, by Garang

    A giant leap into the unity of purpose and destine of the people of South Sudan.Mr Vice President,you desreve a big pat on your back.It is a high time that others folow suit so that remnants of war and the generations to come enjoy the fruit of the struggle in which more than two million lves were lost.The apology by Dr. Machar is truly a great leap into a bright future for the new nation.

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  • 11 August 2011 20:53, by Southerner

    Machar’s apology resonates with what I have recently argued in an essay about the need to establish a truth commission to address the past in order to reconcile the present as South Sudan seeks to move to a peaceful and prosperous future. I entitled the essay "South Sudan: The Case for a Truth Commission." I am pasting the full text of the essay below, but because it is a bit long, it will be pasted in several segments under the nickname southerner. As a disclaimer, this essay is meant to generate civil and informed discussion, and not trigger uneducated, ethnically charged empty accusations!

    Introduction:

    In January 2011, Southern Sudanese stormed polling centers in multitudes, to exercise their right to self-determination by casting ballots as stipulated in the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA), which in 2005 concluded the protracted second civil war between the Arab and Muslim North, and the Christian and African traditional religionist South. Except for limited violence in the oil-rich north-south border areas, the plebiscite conduct was largely peaceful and orderly, and resulted in a landslide vote for secession of South Sudan, a result which was endorsed by the international community as legitimate, and officially recognized by Khartoum. For overwhelming majority of Southern Sudanese, this was “our Kairos moment,” and so the referendum was merely a process that was to determine an already almost unanimously determined fate—an independent state in South Sudan. “We, the southern Sudanese have already decided to vote for an independent Southern Sudan where we will live as first class citizens,” stated Southern Sudanese Youth Forum during the plebiscite run-in.
    And yet, current political and economic reality in South Sudan is rapidly diminishing people’s high expectations, hope, and optimism of finally receiving the much coveted restoration of human dignity and equal citizenship status. Political violence is rapidly spreading throughout South Sudan. And the all encompassing sense of unity, and euphoria among Southern Sudanese which characterized the post-signing of the CPA is being replaced by a destructive social disintegration along ethnic lines, as fear and suspicion of the dominant Dinka ethnic group intensifies. And so the question nags, is South Sudan about to witness another episode of an all-out violent intra-ethnic conflict? If so why? Could South Sudan be suffering from ancient ethnic hatred syndrome? How can sustainable peace be promoted in this country, which has known little but wars?
    In this essay, I address these questions, and make the case that in the interest of a sustainable peace, a truth commission mandated with addressing political crimes committed by Southern Sudanese against each other, during the protracted North-South civil war must be established to restore reconciliation, and advance democracy, human rights and the rule of law in the new Republic of South Sudan. Ideally, and especially as both the North and the South prepare for life independent of each other, and both undergo a transition from war to peace, the mandate of the truth commission should also include addressing atrocities committed by Khartoum against Southern Sudanese during the same period of North-South armed struggle, in which more than two million people died. However, the time and space does not permit us to argue for the creation of such a commission; the situation in South Sudan is more pressing for a truth commission than North-South relations, which at the present can make do without a truth commission, but which should be a topic for a future consideration. For this reason, I confine my argument in this essay for the creation of a truth commission in the South to help purge the Southern house of standing grudges borne of past political atrocities committed across ethnic divide by Southern Sudanese themselves, and which in part may account for the current political turmoil, and proliferation of violence in South Sudan.
    Consequently, in this essay, I embark as follows: in the first half, I acknowledge by demonstrating that yes, with the current state of affairs South Sudan betrays strong signs of a nation rapidly sliding toward a full-fledged violent ethnic conflicts. Against this background, staking a claim for the creation of a truth commission as a mechanism to not only prevent the eruption of violent ethnic conflicts motivated by revenge, but also to foster a smooth transition to democracy and sustainable peace is all the more desirable. In response to the second question of whether South Sudan suffers from ethnic hatred syndrome, I argue that no, South Sudan is not prone to ancient ethnic hatred, because despite seemingly the case, ancient ethnic hatred is a myth, which makes the success of a truth commission in South Sudan feasible, especially if such a commission is properly mandated and deliberated.
    In the second half of the essay I make the case for a truth commission to be created in South Sudan, briefly outlining criticisms as well as praises for truth commissions in general. I argue that the pendulum still swings toward the establishment of a truth commission in South Sudan. I then elaborate on the mandate of this truth commission, and conclude by reiterating that sustainable peace founded on principles of representative democracy, human rights, rule of law, security sector reform, free market, and hope for a better future in South Sudan largely depends on the creation, findings, and recommendations of a truth commission, if properly implemented.

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    • 11 August 2011 20:56, by Southerner

      Violent Ethnic Conflict Looms in South Sudan:

      Following the relatively peaceful and successful conduct of the referendum, violent ethnic conflict looms in South Sudan. This threat of violence is particularly posed by those ethnic groups who feel marginalized and not meaningfully represented in the Dinka dominated Government of South Sudan (GoSS). Even before the eagerly anticipated nation is to be born in July 2011, scores of defection by army generals and their soldiers, and resort to armed struggle against GoSS, is increasingly common, which reinforces the concern about an impending full-fledged ethnic violence. Southern militia groups, which have previously been used by Khartoum in its “divide and conquer” strategy, to fight Sudan People Liberation Army (SPLA), but which have been rendered inactive following the CPA have already resumed violent activities in several areas of South Sudan, some led by the defected generals, and others by Khartoum’s proxy warlords.
      Opposition political parties are decrying what they perceive as the beginning of another era of authoritarian regimes and one Dinka dominated party rule. They argue that the SPLM has reneged from a political agreement to consult other Southern political parties concerning South Sudan’s interim constitutional review, a constitution which the SPLM almost unilaterally reviewed and passed the final draft of the interim constitution, while bestowing significant power to the SPLM chairman and the current president of South Sudan, Salva Kiir. To this end, vehement political accusations highly charged with ethnic hatred rhetoric are exceedingly becoming salient in political as well as public discourse in Juba.
      In addition to defections in rank and file of the SPLM, which have become a common practice in recent months, as well as the reactivation of previous militia groups, and disgruntlement of opposition parties for the perceived marginalization from political participation, opposition to Dinka dominance is taking rather unsettling twist of what is perceived as tribal federalism.
      At the time of writing, a conference organized by the Baria ethnic group was convened in Juba where a confederacy of tribes known as Equatoria tribes participated to discuss current political issues facing South Sudan. The conference, which was entitled “Unity, Equality, and Prosperity,” generated a lot of negative reactions from Dinka political analysts who perceived it as tribal conspiracy and threat to non-Equatoria tribes. And while the purpose of the conference was to discuss issues pertaining to representative governance, and security, it quickly invoked the memory of a previous political campaign also led by Baria in the early 1980s, and was known in Baria as kak kokora (the land must be divided), or in English “Equatoria Region Now.” At the time, the purpose of the kokora campaign was to end Dinka hegemony in the regional government, by expelling them from Juba—a city the Baria consider to be their ancestral fortress, and which they refer to as Juba na Bari (Juba is a Bariland). However, this campaign, which would have resulted in massive ethnic violence, was interrupted when the second civil war broke out, and Southern Sudanese decided to put their differences on a halt and rally behind the rebel movement to liberate South Sudan from the common enemy up north.
      On the whole, Adam Branch and Zachariah Cherian Mampilly in a recent study summarized the current ethnically tense and emotionally charged atmosphere in Juba accurately. They pointed out that some of the discontented tribes “who belong to the smaller Equatorian ethnic groups—the Baria, Zande, Acholi, Madi, Moru, Kuku, and others—view the SPLA as a vehicle of Dinka domination and complain bitterly about their treatment at the hands of the SPLA.” Likewise, some sections of the Nuer who are represented by at least seven ministers in South Sudan cabinet, and occupy the post of the Vice-President, remain discontented with what they continue to perceive as Dinka hegemony in the government. This is strongly reflected in the increase in defection by some Nuer generals and their followers from the SPLA file, and resort to armed struggle, and indiscriminate attack on Dinka villages. Of the several armed groups that have defected from the ranks of SPLA in recent months, at least seven of these groups are led by generals from the Nuer ethnic group, which leads us to addressing the second question, is South Sudan then suffering from ancient ethnic hatred syndrome?

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      • 11 August 2011 20:57, by Southerner

        The Myth of Ancient Ethnic Hatred:

        While the current unfolding political events in South Sudan may be defined as traditional ethnic conflicts, they should not be construed as manifestations of ancient ethnic hatred, understood here as a primordial ontologically designed state of ethnic anarchy. Ancient ethnic hatred as such is a myth. Ample studies show that the whole categorization of African societies into tribes is a colonial construct devised to consolidate colonial control of the African continent. South Sudan like its African mother suffers from this colonial legacy. When African ethnic conflicts are historically discussed, part of the blame for these conflicts is squarely placed on the shoulders of African colonial masters, particularly on their divisive policy of “indirect rule,” or “divide and rule” employed to control the African continent. The core of this argument is that ancient ethnic hatred is a myth. Ethnicity in its current hostile form, was a colonial product, in which tribes were incited against each other, to enhance the process of control, and exploitation of resources, as well as to bolster the booming colonial slave industry. “Tribalism solved the colonial dilemma of how to dominate and exploit vast numbers of indigenous inhabitants with limited number of colonial agents.”
        The 1994 Rwandan genocide is another prime example of the impact of the legacy of colonial incitement of ethnic hatred. In their ploy to consolidate power, and exploit resources, the colonialists used preferential ethnic treatment of the Tutsis at the expense of the Hutus, which later resulted in the horrendous Rwandan genocide as ethnic hatred reached boiling point. “The veneration of the Tutsis and the bias towards Tutsi officials and chiefs,” writes David Keen, “inordinately inflated…the Tutsi ‘cultural ego’ and simultaneously gave many Hutus an aggressive ‘inferiority complex,’” which created space for the subsequent genocide.
        Differently worded, ancient ethnic hatred discourse is best explained as a devastating foreign ploy to consolidate power, which continues to foment conflicts to the present. “The legacy of the past has certainly had tremendous impact on persisting current violent conflict.” Moreover, for pragmatic reasons, perceiving these conflicts as ingrained in ancient ethnic hatred is undesirable, because it entails employing geographic distancing of the ethnic belligerents, as the favorable conflict resolution mechanism. For this reason, ancient ethnic hatred discourse should be strongly discouraged, particularly when it comes to dealing with African conflicts. It is “pessimistic about ethnic conflict management and about establishing lasting peace. Only separation will ensure lasting ethnic peace. Mixing or remixing (after ethnic cleansing) the ethnic groups in the same territory invites renewed violent conflict.” Perceived within the Nuer-Dinka conflict context, such an understanding entails creating two independent states within South Sudan to separate the Dinka and the Nuer belligerents. Moreover, the same scenario might also be true of other Southern Sudanese, who in the future might engage in ethnic conflicts against each other, which makes geographical separation as a conflict resolution method not only unfeasible, but also threatens international peace and security, when more tribes begin to request independent and sovereign geographical spaces.
        In sum, the foregoing analysis is not intended to present African or Sudanese ethnic groups as saintly, far from it. The purpose is simply to highlight some of the damaging stereotypes, which do not contribute to constructive handling of conflict situations wherever they may be found, to the preservation of the invaluable asset of human life. To be sure, it is precisely because ethnic groups have experienced bitter ordeal of violence that they have devised traditional self-preserving peaceful mechanisms to address conflicts. Sudanese tribes are not at all immune to violence; rather they have had their differences, mainly over economic and natural resources, such as pasturage, water and arable land. They have raided and counter-raided each other for cattle for centuries, and have used violence to settle other scores which were often fatal and may continue to perpetuity. And yet, most ethnic groups whether in Sudan, Africa and other parts of the world without exception, have also found peaceful and diplomatic means to settle their accounts. Thus, in order to protect and preserve human life, ethnic groups utilized traditional methods of conflict resolution to coexist in peace.
        Again, a prime example can be seen in Nuer-Dinka violent conflicts in the wake of a split in the rebel movement in 1991, where both ethnic groups inflicted heavy atrocities on each other. The scope of Nuer-Dinka massacres are reported to have even exceeded the mass killing visited upon them by Sudan Armed Forces (SAF), during the over four decades long North-South civil war. Nonetheless, both communities were ultimately able to utilize traditional conflict resolution mechanism, accompanied with rituals of reconciliation under the aegis of the New Sudan Council of Churches (NSCC) to resolve their conflicts, and live with each other in peace. Judging by the current instability in South Sudan, the view promoted in this essay is that there seems to be loophole with this “people-to-people peace process.” Partly because, it did not lead to a holistic restoration of human relationships between the two communities, because with modern weapons involved, the atrocities were unprecedented in the scope of its gravity. The other reason for the insufficiency of the peace process is that, the peace process did not include political leaders of both communities, such as the sitting President and Vice President of South Sudan, Salva Kiir and Riek Machar respectively, both of whom were implicitly or explicitly complicit in those atrocities. And it is precisely here that I think a truth commission needs to be established to address some of the standing bitterness of violence, which people harbor in silence, and which I think at least in part accounts for the almost arbitrary resort to picking up of arms by some of these groups as is currently practiced in South Sudan.

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        • 11 August 2011 20:59, by Southerner

          The Case for a Truth Commission:

          To elaborate on why I think the creation of a truth commission in South Sudan is desirable, it is helpful to further pursue what I have called “standing bitterness of violence” as a primary driver of the current political instability. Daniel Philpott best conceptualizes what is being discussed by the phrase “standing bitterness of violence.” In his framework of “wounds of political injustice,” Philpott argues that “a wound of a political injustice can be defined as some respect in which a political injustice ruptures right relationship in or between communities and diminishes the human flourishing of those who are involved in that injustice.” Standing bitterness of violence understood within this framework is then the rupturing and diminishing processes of right relationship caused by a political injustice or violence. And thus this framework vividly reflects the current state of affairs in South Sudan, which expressively represents a society in rapture and diminishing process of right relationships between its various segments. It is a society with a dwindling prospects of a human flourishing, precisely because it was involved in a prolonged armed struggle, that meted out egregious political violence on its people, both from within and from without.
          Put differently, the whole Southern Sudanese society are stakeholder in the conflict, and therefore are all partakers of the wounds of injustice that Philpott describes, and not just the primary parties involved in the political injustice. The fact that all are at stake necessitates the creation of a truth commission not just as an exercise in the politics of reconciliation, but also as a foundational step toward promoting democracy, human rights, security sector reform, rule of law and free market.
          Conversely, wounds of political injustice, if left unattended have the potential of becoming cancerous and destructive, permeating the whole fabric of the Southern Sudanese society, eroding and weakening it from within and thereby inflicting pain and ruin to the whole society in various capacities and degrees, exposing vulnerabilities that can be easily exploited by foreign agents of ill-will, and ultimately culminating in an undesirable state of complete social decay and disintegration to the vicious abyss of violence.
          As Philpott nuances it, participants to the wounds of injustice, or those who are victimized by these wounds include, the victims on whom the injustice has been directly perpetrated, or whose human rights have been infringed. Then the perpetrators or the guilty ones who have executed the act of wrongdoing, followed by all the members of the community as a whole, or the commoners. And finally, “there is the governing institutions of the state, who may at different times, in its very different modes, represent any of these parties, coordinate among them, enforce the rule of law, promote practices of reconciliation, or sanction or carry out political injustices. Each of these parties plays a different role in each different kind of wound, inflicting it, suffering it, sanctioning it, standing by and watching it, or remaining oblivious to it.” In other words, the whole Southern Sudanese society is responsible to discharge efforts for reconciliation, or alternatively sanction injurious political practices, and in the process deepen an already existing wound of political injustice, which is fragmenting communities across hostile ethnic group, with the result being further perpetration of political crimes as is currently happening in many parts of Southern villages, where militia groups have resumed their activities.
          Framed this way, it is the moral and political responsibility of GoSS and Southern Sudanese at large to discharge their duties, by promoting and creating political space for justice, here broadly defined as reconciliation. This was the underlying motive for why Southern Sudanese voted overwhelmingly for secession, namely to restore their human dignity and citizenship, which for half a century was robbed by Khartoum. Ample studies have shown that one of the primary functions of a truth commission at least as a democratic project is to restore dignity and civic status robbed by political injustice or human rights violation of a political community.
          In this context establishing a truth commission is a strong political statement of the government’s intent to inculcate a democratic culture to mark the end of anarchy and chaos, and the beginning of law and order society, where the protection of human rights and restoration of civic status is the natural course of affairs. This I argue should be the first objective of the truth commission, namely to pave the way for a beginning of the process of restoration of equal rights to citizenship, which as noted is a core desire shared by the majority of Southern Sudanese, including those who chose to rebel.
          However, it is also useful to note that a truth commission is no panacea. There are no magical solutions to restore a flourishing humanity in contexts where there have been prolonged exposure to violence, and human rights violations. In this regard some have raised concerns about the contribution of truth commissions to swift transition to democracy. An oft-cited critique of truth commissions is that they are substitutes to prosecutorial justice. They are toothless in that they never prevented the occurrence of genocide in Rwanda, for example. Or truth commissions are accused of being inept to recover the truth of what happened in the past, at best they can only “narrow the range of permissible lies,” as Michael Ignatieff phrased it. Truth commissions are charged with “moral overreach,” by liberal critics as Daniel Philpott points out, these critics contest that first “it is naïve to think that a single notion of truth about the past can attain common agreement among the members of a society. Second, when a government commends a single truth as a collective value for an entire nation it violates the norms of liberal democracy, one whose basic purpose is to preserve space for debate about truth, justice, and collective values.”
          In post accord countries or countries transitioning from authoritarian regimes, truth commissions may contribute to a “possibility of disagreement among citizens,” which may lead to the resumption of violence. Truth commissions do not effect healing. They raise empty expectations of the populace, who have suffered past crimes. Knowing the truth can sometimes undesirably create space for reliving the bitter experience, and therefore opens up the “wounds of injustice” all over again. And finally, in the case of the South African truth commission, a study shows that 50 to 60% who described their experiences bewailed testifying before the commission, especially as punishment of the perpetrators was forgone, reparations not forthcoming and socioeconomic inequalities prevail.
          On the flip side, despite the apparent limitations with truth commissions, the pendulum still swings toward the establishment of a truth commission in South Sudan. “Both the process and the product of a truth commission can make a critical contribution in the midst of a difficult transition.” As Priscilla B. Hayner rightly argues that:
          Common wisdom holds that the future depends on the past: one must confront the legacy of the past horrors or there will be no foundation on which to build a new society. Bury your sins, and they will reemerge later. Stuff skeletons in the closet, and they will fall back out of the closet at the most inauspicious times. Try to quiet the ghosts of the past, and they will haunt you forever—at the risk of opening society to cycles of violence, anger, pain, and revenge. By directly confronting the conflicts of old, it is surmised, these conflicts will be less likely to explode into severe violence or political conflict in the future.

          In furtherance, truth commissions are generally regarded as the genesis of transitioning to democracy after the fall of an authoritarian regime, or the end of a civil war in a negotiated settlement. It is thus a political and ethical demand to rectify past crimes. Truth commissions improve the longevity of a peace settlement. It is the first step toward acknowledgement, and toward restoring national reconciliation, flourishing human relationships, and healing both on the individual as well as on the societal levels. It does not substitute, but complements trials. Truth commissions precipitate public apology, through acknowledgment. Truth commissions can serve as a platform for addressing root causes of conflict. They are mandated with uncovering, illuminating, and acknowledging past political injustices; they address the needs of the victims; contribute to justice and culpability of perpetrators, and their recommendations can be used to bring about institutional reforms; and promote reconciliation. Mutual recognition is the base of reconciliation, which in turn is the base of peace, as the philosopher Hegel argues; peace is a condition where there is mutual recognition in a society. It is “a feature of the justice of right relationship in the present but [also] as a mode of repairing right relationships that have been wounded by past wrongs,” Philpott argues. Truth commissions’ task and findings serve this purpose.
          However, the challenge for creating a truth commission within the Southern Sudanese context is that there is no discussion of forgiveness and reconciliation between the different tribes. Worst yet the SPLM and the National Congress Party (NCP) who negotiated the CPA, deliberately and consciously refused to include a provision on a creation of truth and reconciliation commission in the peace accord to redress past injustices. Compliance with international human rights norms, as well as reconciliation is only mentioned in passing and broadly, and not emphasized as one of the core provisions in the CPA. Only once the current President of South Sudan urged Southern Sudanese to forgive, but only with reference to Khartoum, while everybody knows the scope and degree of antagonism between Nuer and Dinka, for example, which is often reflected in contradictory statements between the President and his Vice. On more than one occasion the president accused the Vice President at least implicitly, of promoting “a parallel government” in Juba. Needless, to mention the hostility between the two camps of Dinka, Nuer and Shilluk, who are also known as the Nilotic tribes on the one hand, and the Equatoria tribes on the other. Moreover, unlike many transitional cases around the world, the first draft of the interim constitution, which have just been passed as the final draft by the legislative assembly seems to hardly make any reference to issues pertaining to power sharing, human rights, and reconciliation at least in any meaningful manner.
          Indeed this is the strongest of all possible challenges, namely how to mobilize perpetrators of past injustices who also happen to be the policy actors, to support a legislation for the creation of a truth commission, let alone compelling them to testify before the truth commission? Hayner forcefully and accurately captures the challenges surrounding the creation of a truth commission, which may apply to South Sudan. She writes:
          There are many factors and a range of participants that help shape each country’s transitional possibilities and constraints, and thus its posttransition reality. These include the strength of those groups or individuals who were responsible for the abuses and their ability to control transition policy choices; how vocal and organized is a country’s civil society, including victims and rights groups; and the interest, role and involvement of the international. In addition, the transitional choices will be affected by the type and intensity of the past violence or repression and the political nature of the transition. And finally, there are often aspects of political and social culture—an undefinable set of preferences, inclinations, beliefs, and expectations—that help to shape the parameters of whether and in what manner the past is confronted.

          In my view, South Sudan meets all the above mentioned criteria for promises and challenges of the establishment of a truth commission. As mentioned above, SPLM constitutes the dominant force in South Sudan politics, and have established almost a one party rule, and almost unilaterally maintains a tight grip on key transitional policymaking, including the drafting of the interim constitution. In Naivasha, they were the only ones represented on the CPA negotiating table along with the NCP, Intergovernmental Agency on Development, and the Troika Guarantors, namely the United States, United Kingdom, and Norway. Civil society organizations were not invited nor were other armed groups, such as the Darfur rebel movement, or other political parties from both the North and the South. Currently Sudan, including the South lacks a vibrant civil society to lobby for a truth commission, except may the Church. Both major tribes in South Sudan perpetrated abuses against each other, which make them both victims and perpetrators. The culture seems increasingly secretive, highly militarized, and ethnically conscious. Together these factors make the creation of a truth commission difficult, but not impossible.

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          • 11 August 2011 21:01, by Southerner

            It is in this context that I propose a truth commission as one mechanism to foster sustainable peace, by promoting democracy and human rights, impartially enforcing the rule of law on all, and conducting institutional reforms. Mindful of these challenges, the truth commission that will be formed will have a limited but open mandate. It will solicit public hearings, have access to governmental documents, publish their results, and make recommendations to the government. However, as pointed out earlier, the primary task is really to begin to cultivate and educate the public about the culture of democracy. The truth about the past atrocities is known to all, it is acknowledgment that is missing. In their recommendation, the commission will strongly encourage the government to embark on the institutional reforms and issuing a public apology. The incentive that will be generated from this act is hopefully a small step forward toward national reconciliation, but which will also enhance public legitimacy of the government. Preceding the issuance of public apology by both the President and the Vice President, it is preferable that both political leaders set an example to the people by public testifying in a spirit of a dialogue before the commission. Rituals of reconciliation will then follow these public confessions in a manner reminiscent to the “people to people peace process” of the 90s, which was correctly a reflection of cultural practices of the Southern Sudanese communities. Judging by the culture, such a public display of reconciliation by the political leaders will motivate others to come forward and testify, including the commoners, who in traditional societies are known for their unswerving loyalties to their leaders. The process will then be expanded to include other tribes such as the Equatorian camp. But there should be no reference to trials, since under the current conditions prosecutorial justice, and accountability for those atrocities are inconceivable, a topic better left for another occasion. In sum, if carefully and properly done, the truth commission will be a success, and may generate acknowledgement, and apology, which may then lead to national reconciliation, healing and recognition of all the diverse ethnic groups as equal “first class citizens” in a new, independent and peaceful Republic of South Sudan.
            Conclusion
            Thus, in order to avoid sliding into violence, and restore unity and reconciliation—the basis of right relationship and peace in South Sudan, the government should establish a truth commission to conduct nationwide hearings into these atrocities, as well as other injustices committed by and against the Equatorian tribes. By the end of the proceedings, the commission should compile a report of their findings and publish it with concrete recommendations for GoSS to implement. As a first step both the President and the Vice President of South Sudan should acknowledge these crimes, and utter a meaningful public apology to the Nuer and Dinka communities respectively. Then they should embark on implementing the recommendations, which should include upholding democracy and the principles of inclusive governance that guarantees genuine political representation, service provision, and grievances alleviation of all the different concerned groups without exception, and without regard to ethnic or religious affiliation. The government should also be strongly encouraged in the report to embark on rigorous security sector reform to uphold human rights and the rule of law, and provide impartial justice to all, and may sustainable peace reign in South Sudan.

            God Bless South Sudan.

            By Emmanuel Tongun.

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  • 11 August 2011 21:24, by Cadaai ?o?

    We the Dinka twic East are still waiting for Dr. Riek apology. We don’t talk our thing openly, and we don’t provoke other first. Dinka Twic East will not be done that simple like to Dinka Bor apology.
    Dr. Riek needs to go to Panyangor, and we may accept pology if it is appropriat, this is just another wrong moves for Dr. Riek.

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    • 11 August 2011 23:21, by Nhomlawda

      Cadaai ?o?

      Dr. Riek Machar apologized for heinous crimes committed under his leadership against the people of Bor (Athooc, Duk, Gok and Twic) collectively at Dr. John Garang’s home on Sunday, August 7, 2011.

      So that apology was not meant for Athooc and Gok people of Dinka Bor alone but the whole of Dinka Bor people.

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      • 12 August 2011 15:38, by Cadaai ?o?

        My stupid friend from Dinka Bor, Dinka Twic East is not Dinka Bor please. You need to learn History, otherwise your stupidity will not success.

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        • 12 August 2011 18:56, by Nhomlawda

          Cadaai ?o?

          Go to hell fool with your history and your fake book about John Garang.

          Twic is part of Bor and that is what the world know, you can write your own stories in your book and wikipedia but the matter remains foolish boy that Twic, Hol, Nyarweng, Athooc and Gok are collectively call Dinka Bor.

          Put that book of yours into water and drink it, foolish who does not understand the benefit of unity.

          Who can debate with you - dog child who strives through divisions and choas.

          Twic people are not foolish like you to fail to understand the benefits of unity of Bor people.

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          • 12 August 2011 19:37, by Cadaai ?o?

            I am not fool body, you are thief of Bor Dinka who want to destroy dignifying tribe of Dinka Twic East. History will not be still from us since we are still alive. You think it is a fake book, laughable message from Mading thief. You guys too have muder our people in that period as well.

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            • 12 August 2011 20:12, by Nhomlawda

              Cadaai ?o?

              Understand this point first. When Rebecca Nyandeng Chol aka Madam Rebecca Nyandeng de Mabior called people to John Garang’s home for prayers; she called them under Bor Community and Riek Machar apologized in that gathering to Bor Community (Athooc, Gok, Twic, Nyarweng and Hol).

              Do you think you are clever than Malong Aleeng and Rebecca Nyandeng de Mabior who call themselves Dinka Bor people?

              Think big before you waste our valuable time responding to your daily childish comments.

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              • 12 August 2011 21:32, by Cadaai ?o?

                Do you believe Twic Dinka is Bor Dinka. You are liars and people you have mentioned are politicians.If you think I am lying about Dinka Twic East is not Dinka Bor in History, you better learns your identity before jumping in something you don’t know. Twic Dinka or Twic Ea?t will be there. You guys try to ?teal our identity and hi?tory and it will not work.

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                • 13 August 2011 02:16, by Cadaai ?o?

                  Do you believe Twic Dinka is Bor Dinka. You are liars and people you have mentioned are politicians.If you think I am lying about Dinka Twic East is Dinka Bor in History, you better learns your identity before jumping in something you don’t know. Twic Dinka or Twic Ea?t will be there. You guys try to ?teal our identity and hi?tory and it will not work

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  • 11 August 2011 21:57, by M’ alual

    I think comrade Malaak Ayuen is insane to make such silly apology before Dr. Riek Machar. Maybe a person, with a volatile mind, will believe what Malaak has volunteered anyway. Just make no mistake Dr. Riek Machar had never apologized. This is the most incoherent and inconsistent kinda apology I have ever read in my entire life and Malaak Ayuen should be ashamed of himself though. Completely pure mockery to Bor victims and people, who need dignity and justice instead of indignity and injustice. What exactly was done here. Did Riek write his personal letter to Malaak to apologize for the victim, did James Hoth Mayai tell Malaak to apologize instead of Riek, did Riek apologize when the local journalists and readers and listeners were sleeping in the middle of night to miss Dr Riek words for words for full quotations and public records? Sudantribune is bogus and unprofessional in reporting important messages anyway. sorry.

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  • 11 August 2011 23:18, by Space

    I don’t understand the the term "coward Jaangs". How do you come to that? These people must be dreaming.

    We are talking of well planned and large scale killings that happen to Bor Community. That was out of proportion and unimaginable and no one should compare it with anything else unless you are very stupid person.

    Riek ought to apologise. There is nothing wrong with that. The question of leadership and strategic or so and so are out of this. They are just mere analysis which may or may not happen.

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    • 12 August 2011 01:56, by Ngundeng

      Are you retarded? Both ethnic groups despised each other back then, and always raided each other. Is it the mighty Nuer’s fault the Dinka (Slaves/Jaangs) were too weak to stand up to our raids? We raped their women and we killed cows and drank their blood as thanks to Ngundeng! Riek Machar is a traitor, and I will kill him when I return to South Sudan in 2 years.

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  • 11 August 2011 23:45, by Nhomlawda

    According to eye witness report published at www.newsudanvision.com Dr Riek Machar broke down into tears and cried till he was helped to stand up and consoled by Angelina Teny and her aides.

    I believe the apology was from the top of Dr. Riek Machar’s heart after several years of living with guilt of heinous crimes committed against innocent people of Bor in the name of democracy which they were not opposing in the first place.

    In 1991 when Dr. Riek Machar order the annihilation of Bor civilians because Dr. John Garang is from Bor and must be hurt where it hurts most according to Dr. Riek Machar 1991 orders to his troops; Riek Machar had never dreamt of such a day where he would stand among the powerful Dinka Community members to apologize for heinous crimes his forces committed because of shortsightedness and lack of clear infighting objectives.

    Bor people need Riek Machar to tour all Bor Payams apologizing and crying so that people of Bor can forgive him and his descendants, otherwise, Juba apology is for political consumption and people of Bor do not believe in Dr. Riek Machar crocodile tears in form of apology in Juba on August 7, 2011.

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    • 12 August 2011 06:52, by Ngundeng

      You retarded Bor Dinka need to MOVE ON! Do you think your group is the only ones that went through massacres? What about the 98k Gajaak that were killed by you Dinka? It’s like a child crying because his father smacked him for pushing him down the stairs. STFU.

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      • 12 August 2011 07:52, by Yak Mayen

        If I were you men and women from Bor Community, I would not debate this topic on the web with some individuals that I don’t see face to face. Brothers and sisters, remember that many families in our great community are left without a living person.

        You may call Dr. evil’s malicious act how ever you like but such obliteration and extermination to human lives has no room for debate. If the Nuer boys and girls think that Machar was acting on behalf of Nuer community, then let them be and that should be a message to all communities of our great country who may like his leadership. They need to think about what may happen to them if they do anything to Machar’s community.

        My brothers and sisters from Bor community, I urge you to not debate the issue if you don’t have a plan of dispatching such reprobate to where evil people go. Leave him and let him enjoy his life with his community and stop reminding them on why human around the world enforce laws. Give them time to learn how things are done or handle in a civilize world. If they need help from you, then try to help them but don’t debate them for they will not comprehend any law...

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    • 12 August 2011 11:30, by Dakkin

      Nhomlawda,

      Take your new whatever news away! Gatmachar is putting himselves in serious trouble with the nuer man.

      How many nuer women and kids were killed in BG?

      How many uniformed nuer soldiers were murdered at frontline positions around Juba? Rokon,Mundri, Pageri, Morobo, Kaya, Kedipo, Kiala, Lirya etc
      in cold blood

      How many? How many???
      Except western equatoria with a good nuer commando presence

      It is quite clear that dinkas in Nasir were protected by fool Riek until those nuer soldiers who defied such barbaric executions around Juba arrived home and threatened to kill whoever is sheltering them!

      You are a weak and wicked community!

      Was nasir declaration intended as a nuer vs dinka?

      What do you expect when your Kuol Manyang, Awet Akot go about killing innocent people? apology?

      What is Riek up to by the way? Votes or fear ?

      He must pack up immediately and leave the nuer community

      What ashame!!

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      • 12 August 2011 12:03, by Nhomlawda

        Dakkin

        Riek Machar has no option whatsoever, even that apology will not help him even. There are only three scenarios for him after 2015.

        1. Escape justice to live in exile.
        2. Be brought to justice at home or abroad.
        3. Be lynched for his crimes.

        Leave alone votes; he does not have chance of reaching that vote now.

        There is no amount of Nuer support that can protect him from these events. Riek Machar apology to Bor Community is late and not necessary now, justice must be done.

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  • 12 August 2011 11:33, by Mwalimu Chol

    There is no need of being apologized this time around,we were so sadness but an eye for eye to the vice president.
    We are sorry we have no answer at the moment.

    Let’s proceed well but not time for politic.
    WE ARE YOU MR VICE PRESIDENT BUT NO REGRETS.

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  • 12 August 2011 16:30, by unity state boy

    The Bor community they are just collect the photo from no where and they put it in the website ,what kind of apologist letter that Dr Riek can apologies with.you Bor dinka you need to go back to the war again or you need what?for what I know is not Dr Riek who kill you ,is outbreak disease who is happen in upper line as whole.IF you need that case to sold you bring Dr John Garang .

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  • 13 August 2011 02:19, by Cadaai ?o?

    Hello! Fans.

    This website becomes scams. Why I say so? Because this people change change sentences to from either postive or negative. For example, "I don’t need that" they will change it to "I do need that" in postive of their interests.

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  • 13 August 2011 16:59, by Cadaai ?o?

    This is message from Dinka Twic East Civil Group. We the Dinka Twic East are not involved in that apology by Vice President Riek Machar. The apology he has done was for Dinka Bor only. Also his apology was a setup by Dinka Bor people who trying to take credits or to discard Dinka Twic East true identity.
    We the Dinka Twic East people, we are still waiting our true apology from Dr. Riek Machar, and it could be done in Panyagor, the headquarter of Twic East County. That’s where the incident of the 1991 occurred. For those people who done know the name of that incident, please it is calls "Southeastern Dinka Massacre or in actuality when it comes to really title based on impacted people. It is calls Dinka Twic East Massacre. Dinka Twic East tribe is different from Dinka Bor. They have different characters and dialects as well. It is true even God (Nhialic) knows it.

    Please be aware that, this website always omits some information inside any message the think is not in there interests. Also the website is owned by Dinka Bor people and Dinka Twic East. That’s why they always ignore or discards our true claims.

    N/B: Dr. John Garang se Mabior is Dinka Twic East. During the movement he was using Dinka Bor for Two reasons:

    (a) Dinka Bor was the one tribe in that region Jonglei that was documented as legitimate tribe there when Garang took over SPLM/A. It was done by intellectuals and scholars who were often driven by these words: nepotism (brotherhood & sisterhood), selfish, ignorant, pride of individual backgrounds and ignorant of other tribes as dominant signs, etc.

    Dinka Twic East is not that small, and also Dinka Bor should be proud about 2009 census as they are more than Dinka Twic East in population.

    We the Dinka Twic East people need government of South Sudan to checks Bor County population for its being divide into two counties.

    Dinka Twic East has three sections: Lith, Ajuong & Pakeer, and Dinka Bor has two sections: Athooc & Gok.

    Truth and History will not be steal from Dinka Twic East.

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  • 13 August 2011 18:18, by Abraham Majur Lam

    Is good that VP Riek has apologized to Bor community, he will be forgiven but some of us we not forget for all atrocities he committed us in Greater Bahr el Ghazal. We know who Machar to make that premature apology.

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  • 18 August 2011 07:19, by trulyran

    Now he apologised to Dinka Bor community, who will apologise to those Nuer who were killed?

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    • 18 August 2011 22:29, by Nyin Kuenchol

      idiot Cadaai

      I think you are just other stupid person that is trying to market deceptive ideologies of your evil gene of twic; however, the south sudanese are tired of intentional destructions that you preach to idiots who always accept those historical distortions. just take this, Bor community and rest of south sudan is not going to give you whatever you think and want with your greed twic mentality. the apology that Riek gave to Bor community was delivered to your wel-known Hol public toilet and evil gene Malok Aleng. I just encourage Riek Machar to deliver that apology to right people like Bor elders, chiefs and politicians in the capital of Jonglei state not in Juba. you just go hell if you don’t want it.

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  • 25 August 2011 09:24, by Dinkawarrior

    Kim Deng and Cadaai!
    Dr. Riek Machar’s apology is highly welcome but his greediness for the leadership will take him nowhere. He must go direct to the state where he massacred hundreds of thousands lives and to delivery strong message. Or otherwise he will be held accountable for what he says today rather than what he said to be propaganda when he was asked by the UN workers. Kim Deng or Riek Machar: The same shit you are trying to bring here, are the thing you use to say at times you were in Sudan net dot com. You will be harshly condemned to death by God. Because you are allways divided God’s people. Either you will be like Ken Adam or Ngundeng who had been running away and become Gatluak Manguel! Cadaai: there is no such a thing call Dinka Twice! We only have Twice e Bor or Twice Bar Al-gazelle.

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