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January 18, 2012 (KHARTOUM) – Sudan’s Foreign Minister Ali Karti on Wednesday said that an oil deal with South Sudan is unlikely to be reached in light of the latter’s support to insurgents in border areas.

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Sudan and South Sudan failed to resume their talks on oil as scheduled on Tuesday, 17 January, in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa despite efforts to the contrary by mediators of the African Union High Level Implementation Panel (AUHIP) led by former South African president Thabo Mbeki.

The collapse of the talks comes amid increased tension between the recently separated countries due to the absence of a deal on the transit fees that the land-locked South Sudan should pay for the use of Khartoum’s pipeline infrastructure to bring its oil to export terminals in Sudan’s red sea port.

Juba accused Khartoum of “stealing” its oil after the latter moved to confiscate portions of the southern oil shipped through its territories, claiming that Juba has not paid any fees since South Sudan seceded last year.

In an interview with Reuters, Karti said Khartoum would continue to confiscate what he termed as its right in southern oil as long as Juba remains unserious in reaching an agreement on transit fees.

"If they are not ready to sit down and conclude an agreement, we will take our right. We will take our entitlements," he said.

According to press reports, South Sudan demanded that its northern neighbor pay an equivalent of 1.4 million barrels of oil to resume talks.

"Nobody can hamper us from taking our right. This is our entitlement," Karti stressed.

Sudan’s oil-dependent economy has suffered a massive loss when South Sudan took with it 75 percent of its previous daily output of 500,000 barrels of oil when it seceded in July last year as per a 2005 peace deal that ended more than two decades of civil wars between the two sides.

According to Karti, South Sudan’s support for the rebels Sudan People’s Liberation Movement North (SPLM-N) in Sudan’s border states of South Kordofan and Blue Nile was hindering the talks.

SPLM-N rebels fought as part of the southern army during the war but they refused to disarm after the south seceded without a security arrangements deal, leading to the outbreak of the conflict in South Kordofan and Blue Nile last year. Juba denies Khartoum’s accusation that it is supporting the SPLM-N.

"If you are hosting rebels, preparing them against me, supporting them by munitions, by salaries, by everything, by training, by giving them all facilities. What shall I wait for? What shall I wait for you to do? I’m waiting for war," Karti said.

He further claimed that Khartoum had monitored conversations proving that Juba was supporting SPLM-N fighters.

"We listen to them. They know that we listen to them. What kind of stupidity? You know I’m listening to what you say every day, and you go on talking about salaries, ammunition, supporting us, and bringing more tanks near the borders, and the rest," he said.

The Sudanese minister opined that any oil agreement would be dependent on reaching a border security deal, including the marking of the borders.

"To me, it could be a holistic approach. A piecemeal way of doing things is not enough, and it proved not to be working. It’s better to begin with the top issues - the security issue to me is very important - and then the rest will be easy," he said.

Meanwhile in Khartoum, the official spokesman of Sudan’s Foreign Ministry Al-Obeid Marwih described Pagan’s accusation that Khartoum was stealing oil as an attempt to score political points.

He added that the negotiation atmosphere was not encouraging and urged AU mediators to pressure the south to return to the negotiation table.

Similarly, Sudan’s Oil Minister Awad al-Jaz rejected Juba’s accusation of stealing oil, saying his country was merely taking its rightful share.

He explained that Sudan had resorted to confiscating southern oil after Juba brushed aside the proposals Khartoum put forward since June on the fees per barrel.

Sudan wants South Sudan to pay $36 a barrel to use the export pipeline, a demand Juba terms as “broad daylight robbery”

“We have observed patience in the face of all the malpractices since the signing of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement [CPA] and throughout its implementation, but unfortunately southerners are listening to others,” the Sudanese minister said in a hint at foreign influence on South Sudan.

Al-Jaz went on to criticize what he termed as South Sudan’s unresponsiveness to Khartoum’s proposals.

“We proposed a price for the barrel and we have never skipped any round of talks but we found no response from the other side” he said, warning that Khartoum’s patience has limits.

“We will not forsake our rights, and taking your rights is not a vice” the Sudanese minister said in reference to the south’s accusation of stealing.

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  • 19 January 09:03, by Jalaby

    That’s correct, south Sudan should show more flexibility and provide more concession to Sudan.

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    • 19 January 09:14, by Xeno

      Jalaby,

      You are a chicken-head pervert like Karti too. What is right about it, when it is pure stealing fool? Get a life or your desperation will lead you to doom.

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      • 19 January 19:53, by Alan_Bard

        All what you hear here is just a wak wak wakkk, 2 much noise and no action,please S.Sudan and all the idiots in this web, shut the fucking pip, write now,to hell you and your Oil, you are breaking our pools for 90,000 parole a day,there is an old saying the doge that park do not pit, north been fucking you since 1956 and still fucking you today, and all what you do is waak waak waaaaak

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        • 19 January 20:07, by Alan_Bard

          1. shut the pipe and piled one to Mombasa, one China your biggest buyer will not allow that as they have a bad relations with Kenya, and 50% of transport fees will be going to China since, the pip is piled bay Chinese money and Sudan need to pay back,

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          • 19 January 20:11, by Alan_Bard

            2. Do you rely think you bunch illiterate morons, that building a pip is over night you will shut the pip and will starve to death before it gets to Mombasa,and when it is build now it is the turn for Kenya to get you by the pools, and play with your food as they wish, just like Sudan is doing to you now.

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            • 19 January 20:19, by Alan_Bard

              Uganda is on a conflict with S.Sudan over a land and they will wiping your ass soon, Trips wiping each other every day in S.Sudan your army cant stop it, rebels every where against Kiir Government and you talking about killing Arabs, you must be a bunch fuck weds, just protect you border with Sudan & Uganda 1st, solve your problems of hunger, and then come back here to talk wak waak waakkk

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        • 19 January 21:03, by Elijah B. Elkan

          Mr. Bard, Okay, what your point on the article. With all due respect to you sir, you’re a total idiot. The inbreed in north Sudan have an extreme mental deficiencies. Mr. Karti, is one wasted bastard and real moron. If Khartoum thinks they can bully south Sudan, you all better think twice before you reach that level. Bashir and it’s cohorts killed millions of their citizens and they should hang.

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          • 19 January 21:34, by Alan_Bard

            @ Mr. Elijah B. Elkan, when you say you all, you suppose that I am an Arab or from any part of Sudan, never the less, let me in-light you about what is my point as that little shit you got in you skull is not enough, you moron I am not Sudanese shit head like you,2nd my point is get a live and be nice to your next doors you need them you 1st class borne idiots

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            • 20 January 01:16, by Lang

              Stop calling people idiots and illiterate when you cannot even spell words properly.
              Also, if you are not Sudanese from the north or south stay the fuck out of our business and focus on your own shitty country. Superiority complex having idiot.

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        • 20 January 01:10, by Lang

          Islam: You may kill, steal, terrorize, deceive, rape and etc people as long as they are not muslim and you will go to heaven. That is Islam for you.

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      • 20 January 01:09, by Lang

        Islam: You may kill, steal, terrorize, deceive, rape and etc people as long as they are not muslim and you will go to heaven. That is Islam for you.

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      • 20 January 07:03, by Paul

        The question is, Is it better to keep the oil flowing and be stolen by the North? or Shut down the oil pumps once and for all till a reasonable agreement is reached btwn the two government? It is not so hard to make a decision. Sometimes it feels like the GOSS is being run by a foreign hand other than S. Sudanese themselves.

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        • 20 January 07:19, by Paul

          GOSS maybe unable to act to shut down the oil flow for reasons that can jeopardise the security of the new nation. Reasons such as certain unhappy groups may start giving their loyalty to enemies of South Sudan in exchange for monetary wealth, military not being paid and maintained to standard, and etc. NCP knows these and they wish they happen before they face their own fates.

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    • 19 January 09:17, by Jalaby

      In order for GoSS to reach comprehensive agreement with Sudan, GoSS should comply to the following:
      1. GoSS should stop all the offensive activities against Sudan.
      2. Stop harboring rebels and undermining Sudan Security
      3. Expel out all Sudan rebels and hand them over to Sudan immediately
      4. Clear acknowledgement that Abyei is north

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      • 19 January 10:48, by Majak Mawien

        Talk of what you know not in mind.No rebels in S.Sudan nor S.Sudan support rebels group either.S.Sudan is respecting the severeignty of other nations. Remember how many times North Sudan waged war against S.Sudan but responsed it in peaceful way. S.Sudan has not underminded the international law like Khartoum that did not listen to any voice. You talk of Abyei to be North. It will never happen.

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      • 19 January 16:51, by john agoet

        Jalaby let us be rationally to whatever we say. Since our independentcy we southerners obeisance to the peace and you can see that stance of our leadership while your government incite wars across the border by occupying lands. Ect.. But we stayed in calm for sake of peace and not to agnate the situation because wars can be distraction of what we both build. But I tell you brother we have come to

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        • 19 January 16:52, by john agoet

          that one day we the people of south Sudan will ask our leadership to go for that war and it seem to be too soon. and you know in deeper part of your hart we have nothing to lose judge against you people, going to lose a lot, I do not meant to threat anyone but this is where we heading to the point of no return, so please stop all these nonsense and go back to resolve all outstanding issue once a

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          • 19 January 16:56, by john agoet

            and for all. Replying to your points we are not supporting any opposition in the north until now for the fact are too many and we can afford to our self, but always your government make us scapegoat to soothe its problems

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    • 19 January 09:26, by Logic

      GoSS, you’re proving to be politically unskillful. The NCP jackal is blatantly robbing your citizens and you seem to only pay lip service.

      Those fake elite of Khartoum know only one language, and that’s "show of strength". Juba behaves as if Khartoum will change over night, it wont! They even indoctrinate their young offspring with the same bull. God Help the SRF to rid us all of the NCP cancer.

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      • 19 January 13:43, by mohammed ali

        Logic, why donnot come down and show strength, instead of beating war drums thousands of miles away!

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        • 19 January 21:19, by Elijah B. Elkan

          Mr. Ali, You have disappointed many reads including me, lately, you sounds like those imbeciles.The inbreed in Khartoum will brake up the the north into 3 more counties if they don’t get their act together.Khartoum is well known around the world as a terrorist state.Khartoum is full of lairs, thief’s, and cheaters.Khartoum is having serious problem with it’s citizens, so they south as a diversion.

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    • 19 January 09:27, by Chol A.

      Uha! negotiation on other’s people belonging, there is no more talking with you Mr. foreign minister we have right to put our own offer on barrels but if you have voice on it then we will leave you there and ask other who may agree with us. They pipe were soon to be close down, I don’t think there will be another negotiation. Begging western to pressure us no way though.

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    • 19 January 09:31, by dengtaath

      Jalaba,
      Who is really surprised of what is known as Khartoum’s cultural behaviour? The stealing of South Sudan oil will never stop though the South is providing the North with $36 perbarrel. We know that you are thief and liars in nature. The only mean to stabilise the production of South Sudan oil will only happen when the pipeline that goes through East Africa building is complete.

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    • 19 January 09:36, by Jalaby

      5. Pay compensation for all SAF loss in Nuba mountain and Blue Nile area
      6. Pay compensation for displaced people in Nuba Mountain and Blue Nile Area
      7. Pay the cost of end of service for southerners who lost their jobs automatically after separation
      8. Pay the cost of deporting southerners who still live in north to south

      Jalaby (Abo emma wa Aokaz)

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      • 19 January 14:08, by Mapuor

        Our oil was not stolen by Khartoum alone.Minister of Petrolium in Juba has taken part in that theft plus the foreign companies.The president should act wisely now,minister of petroleum should be sacked immediately.All foreign companies should pay for the stolen money cause they were the custodians of the oil when they gave it away to quasi Arabs

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        • 20 January 06:38, by Santino Nuan

          Mapour, Pls try to be more logic in your comment. Don’t blame the Min. Of Petroleum & Mining for the allegedly stolen Oil by the Khartoum regime. You should understand that the Khartoum regime of Omer Al Bashir is well known in robbing people not only South’s Oil but they also robbed marginalized Sudanese of their precious lives since 1989 when they usurped power from the elect democratic govt.

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      • 20 January 06:48, by john agoet

        You people always acting like’s bosses but you are not, these make’s difficult to you “regimes “ to leant form previous mistakes. If I ask you a few questions counting; why people of Darfur, SPLA-north, Bejah caring arms against central government? These beside traditional opposition of trabi, mergani, mahadi what will be your answer!!! Don’t say America, Israel.. ect

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        • 20 January 06:51, by john agoet

          you knew they are not a party to what happen here. Few day ago USA admitted they don’t want regimes change, be specific to the point please

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    • 19 January 12:04, by Big Boy

      Dear Jalaby
      A dark chapter of North Sudan history is getting increased
      attention, with the release of a feature film about Darfur or your fake which is touring the country.
      a commom feature of north life until the mid-1976, Bashir were primarily child from poor families in the cities. forcible removed from their parents by the unauthorities and send to work on machinary in Egypt war.

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    • 19 January 15:06, by Robot

      It is actually very frustrating in one own opinion to think exerting such pressure would ease his/her burdens, unilateral relationship would be made attractive if Sudan refrains from this habits because it instigate more than they think would solve.

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    • 19 January 15:52, by Corrector

      The sudan does not need "concessions" from the south sudan. we need whats fair and ours. We need our security.. we need a neighbour who respects their neighbours. We cannot have pests for neighbours. This is a crash course for GOSS on national security. Stop obsessing about yourselves and start listening

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    • 19 January 18:56, by Equatoria dominated SPLM

      That is stupidity by the way .okay if we do so what will they do afterwards.let them not threat us of saying oil depend on border security,do they think that if we do so, will they not suffer? that is your to question answer now Mr foreign minister.

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    • 19 January 20:56, by Stephen kuach

      It’s a matter of time then you people will beg us for help.talking about no one can hamper on your way,stop exaggerating youself in front of cameras.yes we will stop the goddamn oil from frowing to your damn pipeline,we will see what you will do then.what a basard person and selfish retarded i ever seen.fake ass arab.
      SHUTDOWN THOSE PIPELINE THEN WE WILL SEE THE OUTCOME OF YOUR WAR BRAGGING.

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    • 19 January 22:25, by Ya Habibee

      Khartoum is laughing on Junub!!

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    • 20 January 06:26, by Lula

      Jalaby

      Do you think it rightful to take some body`s properties without prepared acknowledgment? This is hall and that is why south Sudan breaks away from (ARAMIN) Arabs.

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  • 19 January 09:11, by Xeno

    Karti
    Stealing is haram faggot....or your religion call it entitlements?. you are pathetic idiots.

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  • 19 January 09:12, by Lang

    “We proposed a price for the barrel and we have never skipped any round of talks but we found no response from the other side” he said, warning that Khartoum’s patience has limits.

    No matter how many times they ask for it the $36 per barrel will NEVER be accepted. Give it up terrorist it will never happen. GOSS should shut down the pipeline & let the ICC know about the oil theft :D

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    • 19 January 09:41, by Dam Musa

      Mr. Karti, how long will you keep stealing South Sudan oil?
      If south decide to suspend exporting via Port Sudan pipe, where will you steal it again?
      I understand you NCP are fraustrated. Shame on you.

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      • 19 January 10:00, by Sir. Nostalgic

        Jalabia,
        I can see all Arabs are fool otherwise you can not come in and talk like that. How can we stop SPLA/M-North from claiming their right now? They are right to fight for their freedom and they are right to rule Sudan. Can we stop them, then they can’t even accept our argument. Our oil is going to find a route soon and you arabs North will go nowhere with that pipeline. We will find solutio

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  • 19 January 09:46, by wad balad

    You are absolutly right Mr.karti.Forget about peace with splm. From now on we deal with the SPLM in the following manner.

    1. Confiscate oil to take our fair share in transit fee’s.
    2. Deal Militarality with threats from SPLM by bombing rebel bases in S.sudan and support S.sudan rebels in a tit or tat move.
    3. Secure all border area’s including abeyi.

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    • 19 January 10:25, by Land-of-Cush

      Karti mention that they have rights to keep taking south sudan’s oil by force. This shouldn’t be taken any howly as a joke by commentators. Sudan bombs south sudan territory in several times and they even took Abyei by force; this time they take oil by force too that term by south sudan goverment as stealing. Now the question is, what next the south sudan goverment is waiting for?

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  • 19 January 10:31, by zol aweer

    Kart is very stupid indeed, how can you call stealing as your right. There is no agreement reached yet on oil share and you call it your right, what if South Sudan close the pipe, where will you claim your share ?
    Aaaaaaah the regime is collapsing and they are frustrate with war in Nuba Mt and Blue Nile as well.
    Please leave power before SPLA-North shame you !
    SPLA/M oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!

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  • 19 January 11:11, by Gabriel KK

    Your threat is clear, what we are waiting is the closure of the pipeline and possible alternatives from our Government.
    South Sudan Oyee.

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  • 19 January 12:02, by the Voices of a losts

    plse cut the root/pipe line off, cut its off don’t be chicken talking too much can’t do nothing.

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  • 19 January 13:07, by ABDALLA BIN ABDALLA

    GOSS IS NOT SERIOUS. IF YOU HAVE KNOWN A THIEF CATCH HIM. NORTH KNEW THAT IF THEY STEAL NOBODY WILL BE SERIOUS ABOUT IT AND THAT IS WHY THEY SAID, "WE ARE TAKING OUR SHARE." IN REALYY, CAN YOU STEAL STEAL PART OF YOUR OWN?

    CAN MR.KIIR, THE LORD MAYOR OF JUBA RISE UP AND FACE MR.BASHIR? GO AND TELL HIM "STOP STEALING SOUTH SUDAN OIL" YOU DON’T HAVE A SHARE IN IT AGAIN. IT IS MIND NOW NOT OURS.

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  • 19 January 15:50, by Corrector

    This comment board is soo sad. Lacking diplomacy, reasonable thinking, rational thinking and downright selfish. we,we,we,we,we,we,our,our,our,our. No one cares about you or your stuff.. The Sudan just wants to make sure GOSS is not and has no intention on being a pest to sudan. and for the love of god get S.Sudan intelligent people to please step forward!

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  • 19 January 16:15, by Kolong oo!

    By then south sudan would have had made national refineries to fuel local population and then begins finding other means of exporting her oil and avoid khartoum.

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    • 19 January 16:58, by Corrector

      sounds like a good idea, might be feasible if more oil reserves are found. assuming the french, Chinese, Indians, Malaysians, Japanese and Russians are wrong of course and turns out to be feasible exploitable oil reserves in s.sudan. A lot of people forget that.

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  • 19 January 16:24, by AAMA

    I just wonder what u guys where thinking when u voted 98% for separation ?

    I said this before on this forum, that when u separate, the NCP will choke u, unfortunately, u were to blinded by ur hate to everything northern that u didn’t foresee what was damn clear in front of u.
    Now, u just need to be men enough and shut the headache valve and damage the pipeline forever.

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  • 19 January 16:29, by AAMA

    Actually, this should be a blessing for u guys so that u don’t sleep on the oil and start to truly build ur country become the proud nation u crave to be.

    This is also better for Sudan as we need to close all the doors that can yield head ache.

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    • 19 January 18:49, by jong jong dog

      that is true AMaa,they either stop exporting oil through portsudan or pay reasonble transit fees.why did we quit our land to northeners and then crying over others property.

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      • 20 January 00:57, by allan

        Alan bard and his gay countpart Jalaby go fuck each another their since its arab culture and stay the fuck away from s sudan shit ,

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