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March 7, 2012 (KHARTOUM) – A fresh round of talks between Sudan and South Sudan over post-secession issues has hit a snag after Juba accused Khartoum of refusing to discuss the issue of the alleged 30,000 Southern slaves held in Sudan.

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In a press conference held on Wednesday in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa, the venue of the talks, South Sudan’s chief negotiator Pagan Amum accused the Khartoum government of ignoring the issue of 30,000 Southern citizens suffering slavery in Sudan.

Amum’s accusations come one day after the recently separated countries began a new round of talks on Tuesday under the mediation of the African Union High Level Panel (AUHIP) led by former South African President Thabo Mbeki.

Sources told Sudan Tribune that the AUHIP has informed both parties about the negotiations schedule which gave priority to discussing the issue of the status of Southerners in Sudan and northerners in South Sudan.

Amum recalled that in June 2011, Khartoum terminated the mandate of the National Commission for Fighting Abduction of Women and Children, which was established in January 2002 to address the issue of slavery.

According to Amum, the move was intended to “punish” Southerners for choosing to vote for secession in the January 2011 referendum which paved the way for their region’s independence in July of the same year.

He went on to criticise Sudan’s decision not to acknowledge the existence of slavery in the country.

“It is a bizarre position that the government of Sudan is refusing to admit that there are Southern slaves in Sudan. It is the same government that manumitted more than five thousands of them,” he said.

Amum said that the number of southern slaves in Sudan is estimated at 30,000.

In response, the official spokesman of Sudan’s foreign ministry, Al-Obayd Adam Marawih dismissed Amum’s allegations as an attempt to scuttle the talks and forestall any agreement on the status of Southerners in Sudan.

According to Marawih, the Sudanese delegation had already agreed to sign the agreement proposed by AUHIP on the issue but Juba’s negotiators refused to sign and raised allegations of abduction and slavery in the north.

He said that the government delegation already countered these allegations and stressed that there is no slavery in Sudan.

Marawih said that the government of South Sudan would bear full responsibility if it fails to sign an agreement on the status of their citizens in Sudan before 8 April, the deadline set by Khartoum’s government for Southerners to leave the country or regularise their stay as foreigners.

The ministry’s spokesman warned that as of 9 April Southerners would be subject to all measures regulating the stay of foreigners in Sudan.

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  • 8 March 2012 10:58, by Robot

    Pagan will hit you hard till you accept what we say, it was clear that no amount of threat would push South Sudan to sign an unfair deal. we are a sovereign state and we support all the moves taken by our leaders.

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    • 8 March 2012 11:25, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

      Mr L T Gen comard Pagan Amum,
      Death is better than slavery.

      And for you Ali why are you not commenting about the woman being killed in khartoum by your beloving police gangs?

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  • 8 March 2012 11:13, by mohammed ali

    Bizarre!You are the bizarre! You were here in Khartoum as a minister,your president was VP; we didn’t here anyone of you talking about slavery or slaves.You could have issued a decree by the presidency or by the parliment to free all slaves,if there is any slave here in Sudan;but because there is non and you know very well that there is non, you resort to this cheep & filthy propoganda.

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    • 8 March 2012 11:34, by mohammed ali

      This propoganda will smear the reputation of Southerners in the first place, since it means that they could be enslaved..Slavery and child abduction is flourishing in SS ,it occurs on daily basis and children are sold in the free market. Go and stop that and then come to talk to Sudan. This will lead only to one thing, we ask all southerners to leave Sudan and close the border forever. We are fed

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      • 8 March 2012 11:42, by mohammed ali

        ..with thieve.All what you do is cpture the mind of the morons and ignorants, who want you to bargain with dignity of southerners.Those who sold themselves for a cheep asylum visa and will never come back to SS prefering to live without pride & dignity.This will not cover up the accusation of your minister of finannace that you are a thieve who loooooted hundreds of millions of the money of ..

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        • 8 March 2012 11:49, by mohammed ali

          the poor,starving & marginalized southerners!This should be the last round of negotiation with the SPLA thieves and thugs!No more time wasting with these thugs.It is good that the Sudan delegation was reduced to 4 members only.Pagan should understand that we need our pipeline,even if he wants to use ours,we will soon declare that our pipe-line is fully occuppied.No more money for you to loooot.

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          • 8 March 2012 11:55, by Robot

            Mohamed ali,
            take it easy, don’t panic too much, you know what?, you stuck your mouth too much in someone’s food that you don’t even know the owner can claim it anytime, don’t be short sighted think big and post your nonsense.

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            • 8 March 2012 12:42, by mohammed ali

              Robot,obviously you are!Who is panicking? Why should I? We donnot have half of our pple starving and dying of hunger.We donnot depend 99% on oil.We donnot have almost one one million of our pple in a foreign country,worried that they will come home!I do understand that you donnot care if all SS die of hunger in the poorst country on Earth,because you already sold yourself for a cheep asylum visa!

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              • 8 March 2012 15:21, by Robot

                Mohammed Ali,
                For your information, i am here in South Sudan, and i am talking of what i know.

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          • 8 March 2012 12:04, by Chok Deng

            Mohammed Ali,we know you are suffering from depresion specially Bipolar depression,because of oil.We will never ever give u any medication(oil); You must suffer untill death.No more drugs(oil) for this Depression.

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            • 8 March 2012 12:52, by mohammed ali

              Chol Deng,it is good if you know what is bipolar depression! However it is a disease of afluent and dynamic communities, this is why it is higher in US. For you, it is better to think of malnution,kalazar, sleeping sckness, elphentiasis,malaria, tuberculosis, syphilis & hiv. We have more oil than you, MARK MY WORD!

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              • 8 March 2012 13:13, by Chok Deng

                You see the epidemiology of these diseases and mark where they are mostly located,unless you are out of Sudan.Mohemmed Ali,i hope u mark me right!

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                • 8 March 2012 14:05, by mohammed ali

                  Deng,I know where they are endemic!

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        • 8 March 2012 23:48, by Elijah B. Elkan

          Mr. Ali,

          Mr. Amum is 100% correct and you’re not!. There are southerns who’re being held against their will. If you can’t acknowledge slavery in north Sudan then you have lost creditability in all aspect on this forum. Your intellectual ability has drop to zero, because you’re saying things makes no sense. Insults prove nothing and you know it. Hope you will do better nest time.

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      • 8 March 2012 11:53, by Chok Deng

        We will never tell northerners in the South to leave because they are innoncent of this messes,NCP is the one to be held responsible for this.Mohammed Ali do u assume northerners are your mother and father only?

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    • 8 March 2012 11:42, by Chok Deng

      This file of slavery must be discuss,otherwise no more with those thugs.Mohammed Ali u will deny things even yourself,one day will u will be hang by this regime;from there u will come back to your sense in Hell.Now they started with Awadia and next is u.

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    • 9 March 2012 02:46, by SeekingTruth

      MOHAMMED,
      YOU’RE REALLY SO NAIVE TO SAY IT WILL DISTORT SOUTHERNERS REPUTATIONS TO TALK ABOUT SLAVERY OF SOUTHERNERS IN THE NORTH. IN FACT, THAT’S THE MAIN REASON WE OPTED FOR SEPARATION TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. HOWEVER, BEAR IN MIND THAT BY BRINGING UP THE ISSUE OF SLAVERY DOESN’T MEAN BAD REPUTATIONS BUT IT’S ACCEPTING THE REALITY AS IT IS THE HONEST TRUTH AND YOU KNOW DEEP DOWN IN YOUR DOOM HEART

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      • 9 March 2012 02:55, by SeekingTruth

        GOD DAMN IT! ALI, YES WE ACCEPT TO TALK ABOUT IT AND BY ACCEPTING THE REALITY, ONLY WILL WE GET RID OF WHAT HAS BEEN EATING US ALIVE FOR DECADES!
        YOU CAN GO AHEAD DENY IT AS MUCH AS YOU WANT BUT SOUTHERNERS KNOW BETTER THAN THE WORLD YOU GUYS ARE TRYING HARD TO MISLEAD WITH UR USUAL INVALUABLE LIES. IT’S LIKE A DREAM! SOUTH HAS REALLY GONE AND IT IS GONE WITH NO TURNING BACK!!

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        • 9 March 2012 03:10, by SeekingTruth

          ATI " IT WILL SMEAR YOUR REPUTATION"! MLK( MARTIN LUTHER KING JR) WOULD NOT BE HONOURED IN THE US CAPITAL CITY(WASHINGTON) TODAY WHERE HIS STATUE TOMB IS 30 FEETS HIGHER THAN THAT OF ABRAHAM LINCON IF IT WASNT BECAUSE OF HIS ACCEPTANCE AND ADVOCATED FOR SUPPRESSION OF THE BLACK AMERICANS. LOOK AT WHERE THE BLACK ARE TODAY IN THE US?
          BETTER PULL YOUR HEAD OUTTA UR @#$$$ BOY AND TRY TO THINK SOLID!

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          • 9 March 2012 03:35, by SeekingTruth

            TO MO AND JALABY, WHY DOES IT BOILS YOUR BLOODS WHEN SLAVERY IS MENTIONED?? HAHAH PAGAN IS THE MAN! KEEP ROLLING MR. AMUM

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    • 9 March 2012 12:19, by South Dengjok

      u the son of prostitute and hooker women,let me tell u once thing before u mess up and undergone with all false speech u say,No southerners can take either his child or some body child to market for sold ,it never happen and will not happen,only Arab practice such kind of habite like during the big starvation that u even eat donkey and sold children aswell as eating dog.do n,t fuck up with Pagan,he will defeat u with ur other mothers Arab that u combine ur self with to still the properties of south sudan untile u defeacate and u apology to him ,Pagan is husban of all Arab
      and u are his wife and fuck u very much my first lady(Heavy Rainfall)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • 8 March 2012 11:17, by viper

    Juba has now gained a very good momentum in this round of talks. Their position indicates that we are not again looking for any agreement regarding the oil with North Sudan. The raising of cases like that one of slavery is a good signal to Khartoumers that oil from South Sudan is not going to port Sudan again. Keep up Amuom though they use to accuse you of corruption

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  • 8 March 2012 11:24, by Tambura

    We can still proof we have our children as slaves in North. Omar Bashir regim is running this days like mad dog who the owner forgot about. They didn ’t allow our children to come home for many months in kosti at end giving us this short time? Just smile right now, Arabs came to Sudan to sell their salt we gave them our sister what we got in return was fake boasters. Time will come...

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    • 8 March 2012 11:34, by Robot

      The delegation that leaves Juba always goes with a blessing to tackle filthy Arabs mentality of overlooking Africans. South Sudan is the next country to teach Arabs/fake Arabs a lesson they will never forget, brain encounter brain and Northerners have proved, very soon they are not going to be our match... more outstanding issues coming.

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  • 8 March 2012 11:30, by Chol A.

    Oh! Denying slave! What a joke? Thanks mr. Amum with your team for bringing this issue up. Who denying this fact will hear slavary stories at the media soon and will be shame to you north.

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  • 8 March 2012 11:31, by Chok Deng

    If the lack of oil is the one causing this chaos,then put it afar Mr.Pagan,full stop.No more talk with NCP(not northerners).Let them do what they want to do with our people,even they have their people in the South,why they are threatening you about Southerners in Sudan?

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  • 8 March 2012 11:36, by Don P

    Yes just a subtle way to tell Bashir to go to hell. The world will end before the Khartoum regime gives in to Pagans accusations.The kenyans can start celebrating now.

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  • 8 March 2012 12:02, by Anynya One

    Arabs are yet to face the heat in the near future!!! This remarkable video footage proves the existence of the Dinkans being enslaved by the Arabs who happen to immigrate in to the Sudan from the Middle East just to disrupt loot, resources and destroy Sudan. This prove’s Arabs must seek their place as early as now.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Il633PIa4

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    • 8 March 2012 12:13, by Sir King

      Dear South Sudanese,
      Arabs are running crazy and they will never bring us down again like they have been doing for so long. It is because they don’t even feel shame, otherwise, they would have already apologized so that we subside our hearts and come together to cooperate between two countries. Hence they are increasing the problem. We shall never submit to them. Pagan Amum is doing right thing.

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    • 8 March 2012 22:32, by Tiger

      Mr.Amum!
      you have done one of the greatest job,being a chief negotiators is ain’t easy,there’s a lot of negative things to face,such as like hateful comments.just ignore them and keep doing your job.the more the hate you,the more they fear you.

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  • 8 March 2012 12:05, by Anynya One

    Arabs are yet to face the heat in the near future!!! This remarkable video footage proves the existence of the Dinkans being enslaved by the Arabs who happen to immigrate in to the Sudan from the Middle East just to disrupt loot, resources and destroy Sudan.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Il633PIa4

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  • 8 March 2012 12:07, by wad balad

    Look at this monkey Amum’s coming up with crazy accusations. Dont worry about the slaves, they’d rather stay here as slaves than go back to a certain death.

    This is why i said these negotiations must come to an end. Amum’s is simply pissed at what the SAF did to him during the war and it haunts him to this very day espically during negotiations. So he comes up with slaves accussations. Pathetic !

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    • 8 March 2012 17:23, by zulu

      Wad el Balad,

      Anyway which balad you immigrant? You called Pagan monkey, you are an orangutantAnd you surely know how derogatory this noun and very means. In the whole world, you immigrants of Sudan are a nuicance and manace of Africa. There is no animation,ampathy nor remorse for what you are doing to South Sudanese or natives of Sudan. You guys are illegal immigrants anyways.

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  • 8 March 2012 12:11, by Anynya One

    Jenge is really fucked up by the Arabs. That’s why we Sossa must help them, though it really caused them brain damage. If you see Dinka, and some others in the South Sudan with Mohamed’s names or just say Arab/Muslim’s names, don’t be surprise. No wonder my friends, these dudes have been bought, Islamized, raped in ass by the Arabs. (Rujal Mafi/Libas mafi)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Il633PIa

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    • 8 March 2012 12:17, by Sir King

      Mahammad Alli must stop abusing because we are not here to do so, but to tell the truth. South Sudanese have been slaves for long time in North, including those who where abducted during the war. North must get serious so that we return back to our normality otherwise, that is another point of contention.

      Thanks to South Sudanese government, we must win!

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      • 8 March 2012 13:06, by mohammed ali

        King,abusing what?Southerners here are refusing to go to the south.THEY DONNOT WANT TO GO TO YOUR HELL. If they are slaves why are they staying.Why they were not liberated when your president is VP of Sudan.Why does the SPLA ask for dual nationality?We should ask all southerners to leav Sudan including thousands of students,we donnot want anyone who could be a slave to remain in our county.Period!

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        • 8 March 2012 13:22, by Sir King

          Mahammed, I feel bad when I see you not accepting the truth. It is like Sudanese are taking citizenship in South Sudan but for us, we don’t have any problem because we know the situations of mankind and that is why world is standing firm with us. We are not like Arabs who just behave like wild animals.

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          • 8 March 2012 13:35, by mohammed ali

            King, why are southerners still remaining & coming back if we behave like animals. See how your thugss are treating your own people. SSnation((but the current state of affairs in South Sudan is that, we have tens of thousands of South Sudanese academicians who are either relieved of their services from the former Republic of the Sudan pre-independence era as of July 9, 2011 whom the current govern

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          • 8 March 2012 13:55, by mohammed ali

            King, animals are runing naked in the bush, we the Arabs, Jalabba, Mandokorrow ; never do that!We teach animals how to dress!

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    • 8 March 2012 12:33, by Chok Deng

      What a hell are u doing Anyanya one,why do u abused the whole tribe? otherwise i will give u one prove to see who suffered in white house,i hope u know it(white house)! Don’t draw our attention away from this issue.

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    • 8 March 2012 14:33, by viper

      ANYANYA ONE YOUR NAME REALLY CORRESPOND TO THE NAME OF THAT MOVEMENT THAT WAS SOLD IN ADIS ABABA IN 1972. THE NAME RUJAL MAFI, LIBAS MAFI ARE ONLY IN JUBA. YOU MEAN TO TELL IT TO LOJUBA BUT YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN, HENCE TALK TO LOJUBA DIRECTLY

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    • 8 March 2012 22:09, by Tiger

      Ya Anynya one!
      Stop being such a fool,Dinka girls have never spread their legs for some bread money like those of your girls who used to get knock down by arabs on Juba street side.why always comment some nonsense eventhough the article was not intended for some tribal issues.

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  • 8 March 2012 14:36, by Konan

    To All Southerners,

    From today onward and until u liberate all the so called 30,000 slaves, and get them back home, you will call us MASTER KONAN , MASTER JALABY & MASTER MOHAMMED ALI, is that clear bitches.

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  • 8 March 2012 14:39, by Don P

    This article will spark a whole lot of debates and i had to reach for pop corns reading all the entertaining comments here. Nway The Kenyans are dancing.

    http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Kenya+PM+sells+Lamu+Port+project+to+foreign+investor-/1056/1361786/-/cb2qp0z/-/index.html

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  • 8 March 2012 19:16, by Aama Don’ga

    Though Mohammed ALi is my enemy but he writes sense. Why do we have to bring nonsense in this forum.If we r a country ,we should not let half of our population to die,starve .We r sick of this oil thing which is retarding us. Let us defeat the north .If they want their pipeline ,let them take .And indeed we shouldn’t rely on oil as our only income. Instead of talking nonsense , let us do something

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    • 8 March 2012 21:39, by mohammed ali

      Dnga, why you consider me your enemy? Haven’t seen you all my life.Never said or did anything against you! Can it be poosible that we have different opinions and views! Enemy is too much, I am sure that I am not your enemy neither do I consider you my enemy nor do I want anybody to be my enemy.

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      • 9 March 2012 01:06, by Kurnyel

        Dinkashuulluk Pangan Amum Okech emblazes reach 1 billion dollars in his account. In Sweden and Australia, between 2005-2009 What a rich man in just a shorter time?

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  • 9 March 2012 03:23, by Daniel Buolmawei

    God bless Pagan Amum. Amen! or God is Great!

    Pagan, you have to understand that the most all Southerners are standing behind you 100%

    Mohammed and Jalaby, I know your sillness, you are attempting to deny that there’s no slavery in Sudan? Are you kidding? Where were you? Didn’t you read the story of Sudan? It is not just 30,000 slaves but more than 30,000

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  • 9 March 2012 03:59, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

    wel done Pagan Amum we alway with you.30000 it is more than that in North.North are slave trader in Africa so we must fight against Arab to removed them in African land. if we lack of people. we can bring black America to sudan rather than letting arab take over land.
    SPLA/M oyeee
    APLA/M next generation African people liberation Army/movenment. for the African land

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    • 9 March 2012 07:05, by MudukureNikoDinka

      Pa’agan

      I think you are politically Bankrupt because our Delegation reject your demand to us our Pipelines for 0.48 cents per barrel . Dont sell southerners cheap as slaves. That’s a bad stigma for them!! Wake and answer 30 million corruptions chargers ppending against your fat bitchy ass.

      By

      Mudukuru Niko Dinka

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      • 9 March 2012 08:28, by Chok Deng

        Mundukure,you are known by Bestiality,when did u come to human;unless u are niko your mam! ha ha ha

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  • 9 March 2012 10:02, by Mila Eluzai

    Very excellent Amum.You are unearthing the buried facts.Go ahe

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