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Jonglei: Death toll in Duk attack rises to 80 as UN warns of hate messages

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January 19, 2012 (JUBA) – The death toll resulting from the Monday attack on Duk county of Dinka community by the Murle ethnic group in Jonglei state has risen to over 80 people confirmed dead and many more still missing as United Nations warns of hate statements.

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On Monday the Murle armed youth attacked Duk Padiet, a payam headquarters, briefly capturing it killing 47 people and burning the town before they were expelled.

However, a member of parliament, Abiel Chan, who visited the affected area on Thursday, said the number confirmed dead had increased to 83 with 48 men, 26 women and 9 children killed, while many more were still missing.

He also said thousands of residents were still displaced.

Meanwhile the Head of the United Nations Mission in South Sudan (UNMISS) Hilde F. Johnson has called upon local and national leaders to halt the use of hate language that continues to escalate tribal clashes in Jonglei State.

Johnson in a press conference in Juba on Thursday condemned these hate are urged the South Sudanese authorities to bring those responsible for the violence to "the full force of the law".

"We are deeply concerned about the hate messages that have been made by some individuals and groups. The statements could incite systematic ethnic violence. (..) Such statements are in violation of both international law and South Sudan’s domestic law. Any statements that could incite ethnically based violence are totally unacceptable. The United Nation condemns them in the strongest terms."

The UN official regretted that " the chain of retaliatory violence continues unbroken", alluding to the recent attacks on Lou Nuer and Dinka Duk in the vast state by the Murle.

Speaking about the UNMISS role in the protection of civilians, the Hilde said the Mission has deployed around half of its "combat-ready personnel" to the heavily populated areas in Jonglei like Pibor and Likuongole where civilians were under greatest threat.

The UN official said the early warning system implemented by the UNMISS allowed to save thousands of Mule during last December attacks by the Lou Nuer who moved in thousands to Pibor.

However she admitted the UN failure to implement this system on the recent assaults by the Murle. "It’s a very different way of operating than the attacks we have are now seeing in the Lou Nuer and the Dinka areas. The attacks are in smaller groups, speedy, unpredictable, follows no particular pattern."

"And as I mentioned, if we were to predict those we would be doing miracles because we can not predict exactly which village they would attack."

South Sudan’s government says it prepares for deployment of more troops to create buffer zones separating the three communities of Lou-Nuer, Dinka and Murle in order to deter retaliatory attacks among the rival tribes.

The UN SRSG also urged the government to deploy more of its organized forces in the troubled Jonglei region, and strongly warned sections of the media, leaders and public to desist from jumping into conclusion on unverified figures of casualties in the aftermath of the conflict.

The government, Johnson said, should conduct an investigation into the perpetrators of this cycle of violence, and that those found guilty should be held accountable.

“The cycle of violence in Jonglei has caused huge suffering to all the people in the area. It has to end,” she said, further reiterating UNMISS concerns on the deterioration of the humanitarian situations of the people.

The UN humanitarian community, Johnson said, has launched one of the most complex and expensive emergency operations in South Sudan since the 2005 Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA), meant to assist 60,000 people among the 90,000 affected people in the area.

Lise Grande, the deputy SRSG, is due to address the media this Friday to present more details on the current humanitarian situation in Jonglei and other parts of the South Sudan.

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  • 20 January 07:29, by Ruach

    Murle are causing backwardness to Jonglei State pple.It is difficult to handle this case unless they engage in other agricultural activities such as croping,schooling,shopping,Etc.They are bringing shame to South Sudanese with communities initiating them to kill Dinka & Nuer for poletical gains.Death to any one inititating Jebe/Murle to abduct & kill Nuer & Dinkas.

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    • 20 January 07:46, by LL Reuben

      Hilde Johnson,

      Shouldn’t you be more concerned about death of the innocents rather than running your mouth after those who are making hate speeches? I am not supporting hate speeches by the way, but I do think that without somebody killing anybody, hate talks doesn’t exist, so simply prevention makes better sense than cure. A country partially ruled by the UN will take centuries to stablized.

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    • 20 January 07:53, by Quol Quot

      Dear Johnson,
      In action from UN is silence and that is worse than a hate statement.
      This ugly creatures called Murle need to be wiped out. Is this a hate statement?

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      • 20 January 09:09, by Gumbulla Junior

        Quot,Quot

        The message to all south sudanese participants,there is no attack on Duk county.The death toll put in this media is upside down story.this number is for causalties perished in in the last week attacked in pibor county south of manyabol at a place called..Angolwa.80 wild dogs are ve kissed ground and some 80 are in juba hospital now..licking their wounds....

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        • 20 January 09:17, by Gumbulla Junior

          ...in this attack launched by dinka bor foxes,one of their military high ranking col...perished.Worst of all,they rushed to the media and covered up the story and lie to the world...first attack the youth leader kissed the ground and now is the turn for SPLA-Dinka bor-weeds commanding wolf...the world at large is tired of Dinka bor bias stories and absolute lies against their neighbors...

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          • 20 January 12:51, by From the South

            Gumbulla
            Their lies will fall upon them, its a curse to their childrens, no body is believing their lies, but instead the whole world are now laughing at them, muhehehehehe, through their liers, they will perish. their dooms day is coming God will punish them for real.

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    • 20 January 08:09, by From the South

      Death to Uggly Nuer, Nuer are the most backwarded people known in the whole south sudan, as mentioned in some comments earlier a mind of Nuer always remain the same no matter how much education they hav taken. DInka are a bit better people than NUER. crying now for 80 ppl only? wait for the good result first. this is too small. May God hv Mercy on YOu silly Ruach, may your days last soon.

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      • 20 January 08:54, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

        Form the South Sudan
        Ahah i thought you was ganna say from the affected area by Gonharrea,
        shame on you if you can just open your mouth and say murle are batter than any tribe in this world, than you are sick and laughable, murle are joke, and if you are a girl as some one reavil out here some time back, than i hople with no doubt that you are wishing to get man from Dinka or Nuer.

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        • 20 January 12:44, by From the South

          @ Dinka Dominated Donkey
          a Hiv + person is the one everybody fears and dare not to even stay near, it has no cure, wooow count your days dear, ask for forgiveness from God the Almighty so that anytime you disapeared u will rewarded in heaven apart from your hating heart. God shows me in a dream he did a big mistake by creating your minds as donkeys and dogs. hell to you all.

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          • 20 January 14:13, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

            You must have been born on a highway cuz thats where most accidents happen, how could you called Dinkas as Dinka Dominated monkey?
            Please Hiv/Aids is for those who are so poor and sell their assese for food to surviv.
            If you are really Mary Boya than i will reavel the friend that is now under the treatment of Gohnaera because he had sex with you.
            I hope no one from Dinka marry you little sult.

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            • 21 January 10:47, by From the South

              Dinka Dominated Donkey

              You are really so deaf to understand who i am, you thought i am Mary Boyoi, Mary is not the only Murle Gal, there are alot there. ok if you have the gut to reveal go and reveal it directly to her, i have no connection into her sexual affairs, she is my fan. Your friend is an animal, a gay, at the first place, not respecting himself and having sex with another man’s wife...

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            • 21 January 10:51, by From the South

              and at the same time, Mary herself got a very sweet husband, she has nothing to do with dirty uggly Nuer dick, ya you people are finding ways to spoil her name but no body will believe it, keep singing your fake accusation and waste your time for nothing. even me i will never encourage a murle beautiful ladies to date dirty Nuer Donkeys. never never. shame to you and hell to your friend,

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            • 21 January 21:55, by From the South

              @DD Donkey
              I will marry a dinka only if they were humans, i will marry a Nuer only if they were not apes who even fears to see there very face on a mirror, my standard do not fit for people like you, my standard fits with real HUMANS, my beauty will not look smarter if connected to dinka or nuer guy, sorry dear, Dinkam Nuer + From the South = Mis-matched.

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          • 20 January 14:54, by Ruach

            To Ape(Mary Boyoi aka from the south).You damn Murle girl borne in poor & primitive families called Murle/Jebe=Jabaar).You are claiming the disease called syphillis/gonorrhea which is one of HIV/AIDS families.You are disturbing the pple who think wise about their future.Where is your primitive commissioner who always denies ur shameful activities?Death to all of u and the Apes supporting u!

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      • 20 January 10:45, by John Bang

        @ From the South,
        which South do u meant,calling urself from the South?Are u not South?If so who died most during the war with Arabs?Are they not Nuer and Dinka?Please we know during our strugle you were washing Arabs’ dishes and now enjoying the food done where u do not know.We know where are and you will die soon like those animals killed by Lou Nuer.Abusing like the way u mention will doom u.

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        • 20 January 12:39, by From the South

          @John Bang
          Good point, first of all you need to know that the people known very well for wishing arab dishes and waiting to eat their leftover were the Nuer and dinka, they gave bad image of Southerners in Khartoum, Kenya, Ugandan and Ethiopia. ask everybody and you be informed, even ask an arab person and they will tell you the same

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          • 20 January 13:31, by John Bang

            Hello,Ms from the South,
            I laugh at your words babe,you needs really some one from the Nuer/Dinka to suck you good and u are coming to the point.If u were born girl!Ask ur freinds from Equatoria,they will tell you Nuer/Dinka were not doing that work,he/she ’ll tell u Murle and ur cousins Nyamnyam are the people who hindered JUNUP to come kissing Arabs’ asses,licking Arabs’feet and fuck by Arabs.

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            • 20 January 13:40, by From the South

              John Bang Bang
              No need to ask the Equatorian coz i witnessed it my self, even there are Nuers now called Arabs Nuers coz they selled theur pussies long time back for the arabs to suck their dirts out and give them food,( left Over) no equatorian arab, and no Murle arab. comon ask Muhammed Ali and he will tell you the facts. your acts are well known brother. i no need your dick, and ur sorry asses.

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              • 20 January 13:57, by John Bang

                @ From the South,
                U ’re wrong by saying that Nuer were selling their pussies long time,(kacie Nyamnyam).This act was not there in the Nuer history,and don’t u know that Nuer are the only people with good history? Are you scholar babe? If u ’re you read Nuer history.were is yours? U do not have a history since u are selling ur bodies to Arabs to survive while Nuer were bulding the house for dev’t

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                • 21 January 10:58, by From the South

                  John Bang Bang

                  I have a freind who is Nuer Al Arab, that is true history of nuer, again i repeat, ask Mohammed Ali and he will tell you the facts, No Equatorian Arabs, No Murle Arabs, but we hav Nuer Arabs. in my area where i lived in khartoum our arabs neighbor all got nuers and dinka servants, their main food is leftover, they are used for sex satisfaction by every member of that house, ...

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          • 20 January 15:29, by Chamwaranywaa

            @ from south

            U rightly said it bro. These tribes are shame to our nation.

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            • 20 January 16:56, by Ruach

              @Chamceth.Stop your uggly mouth here.All the vast areas in South Sudan belong to Dinka & Nuer.You need to go back to your wicked Countries.Do u ’ve any Resources that will feed this nation?All Resources are ours and we must guide them.You spent 2000 years in Uganda,Kenya,CAR,Congo & said our land is occupied by Nuer & Dinka.Which land?Did u fight for it against Arabs?Death to any Apes standing w-

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      • 20 January 11:19, by Ke kon cowkun

        To you unknown person called South,and supporter of Jebe/murle or you,yourself Jeba/Murle.Nuer are not ugly like the most ugly people in the world Jebe/murle,who are shapeless people and who are also eating such a unclean thing like a parasite,and eating mud also.You can be proud for the freedom that Nuer and Dinka brought to you,and if you don’t stop your bad system,then Nuer will finishing.

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      • 20 January 13:42, by Ruach

        To Ape aka from the south.The tsunami is coming soon to blow u away & take u to hell!Of course u are right that we can’t with u because u are ape!Leave alone Nuer & Dinka are uggly,we can not joke to exchange our genetic materials with Apes.Do u know the history of HIV u are talking about?A man from Europe mated with Ape & was poisoned with virus from the ape!Ape+Human(Nuer or Dinka)=HIV.con...

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        • 20 January 13:52, by Ruach

          All the Greater Nilotes(Nuer,Dinka,Atuot,Yirol,shilluk,Jur-chol,Shilluk,Anyuak,Jur,Jebe the most primitive boy,..) are the exact Citizens of the RSS & thus deserve any rights here.We don’t focus on Congolese,Ugandan,Kenyan issue.Leave us alone with our own affairs.Go back to ur Countries.Death to all Apes or immigrants in RSS disturbing us in our land!Hell to u Nyam-Nyam(Apes)

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          • 21 January 12:06, by From the South

            @Ruach
            Take Mirror and see your face, you might be bthe victim. in fact the face of real nuers looks alike with an ape, talk to your editor of ST so that i upload for you pictures for evidence. LORD HAVE MERCY ON SOUTH SUDAN. we live with apes who try to make themselves that they are Humans.

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        • 21 January 11:57, by From the South

          @Ruach
          LMAO, ooh today am an apes, tomorrow Mary Boyoi, Next tomorrow ugandan, kenyan, etc, hahahahaha sorry brother it seems you are too dissapointed to find my real identity. The real History of HIV cames with a European mated with a ape originated from Uror County in Jonglei states. Find hostroy from archieve. hahahahahaha

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          • 21 January 22:04, by From the South

            correction:

            facts about HIV is when a European mated with an ape originated from Uror County in Jonglei State, with contour lines marked on the appe’s face that attracted the European. Find Archieves for HIV.

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      • 20 January 13:54, by Rommel

        Our Nation has been subjected to decades of war, famine and misery and yet some of us are advocating for a repeat of such miseries upon our heavily scarred people.

        We need to reconcile, rebuild and exploit the gifts God has so tenderly afforded us and we simply will not be able to realise such dreams with divisive and embittered saps running amok.

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        • 20 January 13:55, by Rommel

          We have people here who are actually dreaming of tribal war - fratricide. It’s no wonder why Africans occupy the bottom of the food chain, and why they are the subjects of laughter, pity and contempt worldwide > ignominiously in need of perpetual food aid.

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    • 20 January 08:24, by Rine Village

      Murle issues become headache in people from jonglei, both Nuer, Dinka and Anuak.because murle kill people, abducted children and looted all cattle. What they want again?

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    • 20 January 09:13, by Dakkin

      How Murle managed to capture Duk, killed 80 people and lost only one man is the very big question mark Hilde

      You can show sympathy to the dinka liberators of South Sudan but not much, the Nuer, Murle and dinka conflicts are not political but needs a political solution.

      An election is needed in Jonglei and Akot Mzee will emerge the new respected governor and restores peace and order. Woo

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    • 20 January 09:28, by Gumbulla Junior

      To All readers.

      The fact is here..as claimed by dinka bor on duk attacked.those who are currently in juba hospital are not nyarweng dinka..we all know them by their distinctive tatoos on their faces...they looked liked their neighbors luo-nuers..but those wounded in hosptital now are just pure dinka from the bor south with their triple Vs’..VVV tatoos on their demn asses.those are the thugs..hell

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      • 20 January 14:42, by Rommel

        So you understand the difference between Dinka Bor and Dinka Hol/Nyarweng? The people of Duk [Dinka Hol] are not Dinka Bor; they are a distinct Dinka sub-section with its own traditions, history, dialect, customs and mannerisms.

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        • 20 January 14:43, by Rommel

          There are a total of five distinct Dinka sub-sections in Jonglei, of which only one is called Dinka Bor > Mading Bor. There are four other sections who do not bear this appellation, and are completely unconnected to it.

          The four sections in question are:

          Twic-east, Dinka Hol, Nyarweng and Dinka Padeng.

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    • 21 January 07:02, by NUER ONE

      JONGLEI trouble is taken to Yambio and Tombura.

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  • 20 January 07:54, by LL Reuben

    What a tragedy, a solution would be to reduced or do away with all the UN in South Sudan as they are the ones fueling the conflit to extend their stay in the Country, so they continue sucking blood out of our innocent and poor people. What a world!

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  • 20 January 07:56, by Daniel Buolmawei

    "Speaking about the UNMISS role in the protection of civilians, the Hilde said the Mission has deployed around half of its "combat-ready personnel" to the heavily populated areas in Jonglei like Pibor and Likuongole where civilians were under greatest threat."

    I don’t want to incite hate against you, but Johnson, you’re more concerned about deaths in Murle than deaths in Nuer and Dinka. Not fai

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    • 20 January 08:05, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

      Should i just said death to wicked community of doom murle and their useless Un,
      What has Un done recently to protect innocent civilance form homeless animals murle?

      We will not going to give some crub form whoever want to talk shit here.we will help Dinka Bor and Nure to be free from homesless sickne murle.
      death to murle

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    • 20 January 08:23, by 11aa12

      Brother you are absolutely right. This UN’s whore needs to suck it up for real. She’s talking none-sense. Why is the UN is so concerned about the deaths of Murle when taking the deaths of Nuer and Dinka as a joke? Don’t you guys picture it there maybe a secretive foul play behind the scene? I believe there is something that the UN doesn’t want to reveal. Remember brothers, UN workers are CIAs.

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      • 20 January 09:19, by akid malual

        definitely the UN is absolutely right because the devil is alway having take pioneer position, instead of legitimate human.

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  • 20 January 08:12, by LL Reuben

    Fellows,

    The biggest obstacle in achieving a meaningful and lasting peace in South Sudan particualarily in Jonglei State is United Nation. Yes, the so-called UN is not interesting in any substantial measures taken in order to achieve a lasting peace. They have hand-cupped the GoSS, and now they are doing the same to White Army of Lou Nuer and BOR Dinka. What a shame to the Western World!

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  • 20 January 08:37, by Sobat

    They deployed the fucken poor Indian and Bangladeshi UN forces in Pibor, Likwangole and Akobo to spoil our ground with useless banker where they hide when fighting broke out. The only solution is to ask the dead UN to pack and leave South Sudan death to this prostitute called Hilda.

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    • 20 January 13:36, by From the South

      Ya Sobat,
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA OOOH LMAO hahahahahaha Mr. Sobat tell me what type of this GIN you have just taken? it really works out nicely, Hilde Johnson is concubine of Mrs. president or what do you think so? No death to our president concubine.

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  • 20 January 08:46, by Majongdulthii Anyang-majongduldit

    The government need to do something tangible before this situation reach Juba otherwise the state will be like North-east Nigeria where Boko Haram is threat Murles want to be like Al shabab and LRA because this thing here is politize is in Jonglei now then tomorrow wll be in other part of the country’’WAKE UP PLIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 20 January 09:11, by Gueth Bidok

      But Mrs there are no law in that country and that’s why it’s next named "Lawless Nation" next to somalia right in the corner of the same East Africa. No laws and you should know better than I do because you live there and I am not. Politicians hesitate to make or enforce what they called law because if they do, the same law would restrict their action of puting bucks in their pockets.

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    • 20 January 12:47, by From the South

      when these silly asses dinka and nuer tried their attempts to reach mighty blessed Equatoria state, the land of peaceful and understanding people, the land of people who are real and respected worldwide, doom Nuer and dinka your sorry asses will regret.

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      • 20 January 13:47, by John Bang

        Ms from the South,
        I will not leave to reply ur messages which u wrote against the Mighty Nuer,not mighty Equatoria,are u citisen Ms!If u are,do you know the history of this land? We will sackoff ur Wani Igga out whom u believe & will lick down the feet of a Mighty Dr.I see u now as an affected women by HIV/AIDs.Don’t waste our time u ’re dying.

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      • 21 January 08:59, by Isme

        To south,
        You hide behind south but you show up yourself, and your luck of understanding as you say, cook your mind before you say a silly word. Oh hold on, Nobody fool GOD sorry to say this to our GOD, be very wise, don’t curse others coz if you do, you curse yourself and whole your family.

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  • 20 January 15:08, by Waucity

    Murlei are psychotic people..They are like this in Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia and so on..In fact they are poorest people in the world..They are killers, governments hate them.Our government should remove them from the military and police..I Swear they will not stop..It is only recently that people begun to respond to their attacks but for many years, they have been the one attacking people.psychotic!

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  • 20 January 15:15, by Waucity

    Murlei are mentally ill and they will finish people if government does not do something about it..Shame on UN, feeding criminals without giving them conditions of peace and complain about them killing people..If they want their women and children to live, then they will let other people women and children live also.I swear citizen should protest and have the government remove these people from arm

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  • 20 January 15:24, by Waucity

    Those of you who know murlei and their cousins, would Agree with me, those of Turkana and the random killing of refugees in Kakuma, tosposa, and the random killing of didinga, In uganda, one of their cousin is call Kormajon and ugandians die on a daily basis, in Southern Ethiopia, majority of them live there and they are random killers. They are psychotic, mark my word, get rid of UN FROM FEEDING

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  • 20 January 16:32, by Kim Deng

    There are no recorded instances in which the Dinka succeeded in countering a large-scale Nuer offensive without government assistance, despite the fact that they were issued guns and ammunitions by the government and hold a strong advantage in this respect. The Dinka were evidently incapable of mounting an offensive counteroffensive that would have tied down Nuer forces in defense of home territor

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  • 20 January 16:33, by Kim Deng

    ..and were likewise unable to recoup their steady losses in cattle and land. The Nuer were thus free to leave their villages undefended while they engaged in extended raids, operating from bases established in conquered Dinka villages. Although a Dinka counteroffensive against undermanned Nuer communities undoubtedly would have curtailed extended Nuer raids and offered highly favorable prospects.

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  • 20 January 16:34, by Kim Deng

    ... for capturing large numbers of cattle, there is no evidence that the Dinka ever adopted this strategy. Moreover, the Dinka were unable to mobilize a defensive force equivalent in size to the eighteen hundred men who comprised a large raiding party and were consequently unable to contain their advance.

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    • 21 January 01:38, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

      criminal mind Kim Deng

      Jieng are the GOSS Army Naath are criminal second to Murlei.
      Jieng if Jieng go like Nuer,there no might be no Law and order in sudan.

      alway foolished comment tribal criminal minded.Dinka can over power anyone in south if they wanted.
      But they are backbone of government. can notact like nuer &Murlei who are still behind

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  • 20 January 16:38, by Kim Deng

    Murle,

    A helicopter flies low over the savannah, about 20 miles north of Pibor, and the emerald green grass suddenly turns white, brown and black. Down below are cows, thousands and thousands of them, a huge mass of animals as far as the eye can see. These are the Murle cattle, driven by thin young men who look up quizzically at the helicopter, slowly making their way back to Nuerland.

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  • 20 January 16:47, by Waucity

    KIM Deng, You are also mentally sick too..IF Dinka can hold arabs from talking Southern Sudan, while you wait in lines for food in Khartoum, then who has glory now?..LOL..I remember you collecting pots, underwears, mosquito nets, clothes, and many more during your 1991 one attack in Bor...do you look like legends now? You are just like equatorians who appreciate themselves no reason, cowards.

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  • 20 January 17:07, by Kim Deng

    Jaang,

    I fail to get what you try to convey. Can you please elaborate more so that I know where you stand? It seems like you’re tying to convine me that Jaang/Slaves are brave, but only when they fight Khartoum gov’t and as such, they are the one who liberated South Sudan from the enemy without other ethnic groups participation across South Sudan.

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    • 20 January 17:42, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      You fail to understand because you fail to listen! No one has stated that you did not fight, what we are saying is that the Dinka contributed more personnel, more blood and martyrs.

      Other South Sudanese demonstrated intermittent commitment to the struggle... the Dinka, however, displayed and demonstrated unparalleled and unremitting resistance without interruption.

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      • 20 January 17:51, by Rommel

        The enemy faced us in the front, they hired you in the back. Men who recieve weapons, ammunition & supplies from the enemy, and rely on that stream... are treacherous SLAVES!

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        • 20 January 17:53, by Rommel

          We fought Khartoum virtually without you [post 1991] – with James Hoth Mai and his small handful of men being the only exception from a community that was for the most part determined to capriciously provide its services to their masters in Khartoum. Your numbers have only increased in the SPLA [post combat]... after all the fighting was done, after precious [Dinka blood] was expended to

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          • 20 January 17:56, by Rommel

            recapture the vast majority of our land from your masters. You have been in the armed services of Khartoum for decades, and you returned after all the fighting, after the anguish and self-sacrifice — and now you dare call us slaves and cowards. The slander that we are slaves has no meaning coming from the likes of you other than as an indication of neurotic megalomania.

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            • 20 January 18:04, by Rommel

              While others have provided mere streams of blood sacrifice... we have provided oceans of blood; eclipsing the contributions of others, many, many times over. We lost over a million Dinka civilians in this war. We will not be continuously bad-mouthed by boastful slaves! Dinka Malual alone provided more troops to the SPLA after 1991, than the entire Nuer tribe!

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              • 21 January 06:51, by Dakkin

                Talk about post 1991, you could as well highlight the battle field victories involved to justify your claims about dinka malual, the most successful cmdr then by far was Hoth Mai. Quite a big joke, isn’t?

                Your assertions about dinka malual contains a scintilla of truth but not many will agree. Liberation is about capturing towns, for me this dinka hit and run tactics could well brand them as te

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                • 21 January 08:38, by Dakkin

                  ...terrorists not freedoms fighters by any scale

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                • 21 January 17:11, by Rommel

                  Mour-Mour division, which absoutely dominated by Dinka Malual captured Gogrial, Rumbek, Tonj, Aweil and many others. The Dinka liberated large swathes of our territory, and you simply cannot achieve this by committing yourself entirely to mere hit and run tactics. James Hoth Mai [as competent as he is] was not the most successful cmdr.

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                  • 21 January 21:09, by Dakkin

                    Lets assume that in 1992 these particular towns were under Muor-Muor albeit not the reality, south sudan deserves to be more diverse and bigger than that mr liberator, yet your naive glorification of dinka malual would surely earn you a bleeding nose in Rumbek ,Gogrial and Tonj

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            • 20 January 20:17, by LL Reuben

              Rommel,

              Kim Deang does NOT read nor does he write in English.Don’t devote your time debating him, simply because he‘ll never get it. Could you believe any sound minded from his community could dared call us (Dinka) “slaves or cowards? His comments are excerpts from other people writings. He doesn’t have a substance in him; let him rot in his own hell.

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              • 20 January 20:50, by Rommel

                LL Reuben:

                You’re absolutely right, I should simply ignore the provocative sap. He rarely ever writes anything sourced from his (empty) mind. His ceaseless expresions of atavistic hatred have consumed and reduced him to a mindless, embittered wretch. Based on the hatred I’ve witnessed from his kind... Pariang and Abiemnom should be administratively removed from Unity State.

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                • 20 January 21:24, by Dakkin

                  Abel Alier, Arok Thon Arok, Majier Gai, Mager Achiek, Makur Aleyo, George Kongor Arop etc..etc.. Are the dinka military generals that launched uninterrupted war for self determination and liberated the south, ok and Kiir above all.
                  Congratulations to them for a free south sudan

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  • 20 January 21:30, by Kim Deng

    Jaang,

    Let’s put it this way, the participation of Nuer community in the struggle since 1975/1983-1991 is not count because Dr. Riek who is Nuer by tribe corrected Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang’s poor "New Sudan," vision in 1991. How about the partcipation of other ethnic groups across South Sudan including those of Nuba Mnts and Blue Nile?

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    • 20 January 22:11, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      Where has anyone asserted that your significant contribution has now been tagged as extraneous!? You are essentially arguing over points that you have raised all on your own. Any antagonism felt towards Riek Machar is a concomitant of attacks by the Nuer on Dinka localities in Greater Upper Nile and eastern Bahr el ghazal, near the border with Upper Nile, not for your facile reasons

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  • 20 January 21:41, by Kim Deng

    Jaang,

    Are you telling me that the coward Jaang/Slaves are not the majority in the region as you shamelessly claim it all the time? I believe all the communities even very tiny like Murle contributed in the struggle base on its population size. And don’t forget that Jaang/Slaves are killed in big numners like fishes by enemies due to their lack of war strategy. Duk Padiet is a good example.

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    • 20 January 22:26, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      It is an indisputable fact the Nuer are the largest demographic group in Greater Upper Nile. Who asserts otherwise!? It is not the absence of strategic aptitude that has contributed to our deaths; it’s because we have the most extensive border with the North, and have had to juggle with fighting Khartoum as well as the certain tribes that they armed.

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      • 20 January 22:38, by Rommel

        The Nuer have the luxury of not even having a one centimetre border with the North, while the Dinka have at least a 1000km border with this wretched enemy! Dinka Hol and Twic-east have never been armed by Khartoum, and are consequently not as heavily armed [if at all] when compared to tribes who were in the armed servics of Khartoum for decades, and this more than explains what has transpired!

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  • 20 January 21:57, by Kim Deng

    Jaang,

    Don’t be confused about How & Why South Sudan got her independece in 2011. It was not because the coward Jaang/Slaves alone fought for it just after 1991 as you shamelessly assume, but due to pressure given to Khartoum gov’t by the International community that led Mr. Omar to sign the CPA. As a result, Referendum was conducted by South Sudanese in many countries including those in Khrm.

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    • 20 January 22:43, by Rommel

      The "International community" was a factor, but one can only negotiate from a position of relative strength. In accordance with this military maxim... we were able to attain the CPA, by the virtue of our control of most of South Sudan.

      All conflicts, regardless of the circumstances or context, follow the same script, be they personal, geo-political, or ideological.

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      • 20 January 22:56, by Rommel

        If the SPLM/A was still in the execrable military position of 1991-2-3, where it was pushed to the border with Uganda and at the brink of imminent defeat at the hands of Khartoum... do you think Khartoum would have been at all inclined to concede as much as it did in 2003 if the situation hadn’t changed?

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        • 20 January 23:05, by Rommel

          Without the perseverance, courage and martyrdom of the Dinka, the Nuba and some others post 1991... the CPA would not have come into existance, at least not in its current form.

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          • 20 January 23:53, by Rommel

            I don’t view the Nuer as my enemy, but it’s clear some of you view us with a contempt that far exceeds the hate you harbour toward our common enemy. We descend from one seed, sojourned in the same womb and like a pride, we must roar as one, march as one, resist with one body, retaliate with one sharp, righteous blade - and descend upon our adversaries like a thunderbolt!

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            • 21 January 00:06, by Rommel

              When Abyei and the ’unity triangle’ are eventually returned to South Sudan — they should together form one new state with Pariang and Abiemnom > and it should be called Apadang State!

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              • 21 January 08:34, by Dakkin

                2nd vice president to Bashir then George Kongor- dinka
                Vision of united Sudan John Garang - dinka.
                Dinka of Abyei and Renk are Muslims
                Northern bhar gazal dinka majority votes for unity during Referendum.

                Judge where you really belong. As for imaginery liberation, well Murle will answer it

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                • 21 January 08:53, by Dakkin

                  Border sharing btwn dinka and arabs was a very big financial bargain that resulted into the arabisation of dinka and sell of vast land to arabs something that worked well for them but the people of south sudan shall leave to regret

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                  • 21 January 17:27, by Rommel

                    Dakkin:

                    You are being incredibly daft and facile. That Dr. John Garang was a proponent of a united Sudan is of no merit when applied as a means of evaluating the Dinka people! Of what significance upon the Dinka does the fact that Akuot Atem de Mayen [Twic-east Dinka] advocated independence for South Sudan decades prior to the Nasir Declaration!?

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                    • 21 January 17:45, by Rommel

                      It’s true that there are a handful of Muslims in Northern Bahr el Ghazal, Abyei and Renk. These followers of Islam are there because of cultural exchange and effusion. When you share an extensive border with someone for centuries on end, there’s bound to be cultural exchange. I’ll provide you with an example:

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                      • 21 January 18:05, by Rommel

                        Yuot Nyakong [a Dinka] was the greatest earth-master among the Lou-Nuer and prophet of DENG, a Dinka divinity; Yuot Nyakong was Nyundeng’s teacher and predecessor; DENG was a divinity that the Nuer adopted as their own from us.

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                        • 21 January 18:17, by Rommel

                          Dinka Malual did not vote for unity with Khartoum! Where did you get this idea from!? Dinka Malual is the largest Dinka section with over 2 million members, and had they voted for unity... the percentage in favour of independence would have not have arrived at 98%! That there are some Muslims in Northern Bahr Ghazal has not stifled their resistance to Khartoum. So how does that help you!?

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                          • 21 January 18:26, by Rommel

                            The Dinka have not sold any of their lands to Khartoum! Abyei was transferred to Kordofan by the condominium government [British] in 1905. We lost over a quarter of a million Dinka civilians in one year in late 1980’s on the border... so don’t tell me that we have at all benefited from being at the frontier.

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          • 21 January 07:23, by 11aa12

            @ Rommel,

            Simple questions I want to ask and I don’t want any person who is socially inept to answer me. I want someone like Rommel to answer me with respect unlike the rest. My questions are; Do you believe that we would have had a CPA,if Dr. Riek and Dr. Garang didn’t sign that peace to rejoin their parties? Do you know the moral of that peace agreement between the two leaders?

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            • 21 January 07:28, by 11aa12

              And also, can you briefly expound what you think was the reason for the split in 1991 to me? If you can answers all these questions, I will appreciate it.

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              • 21 January 14:48, by Rommel

                11aa12:

                Now before we get started... I would like to sincerely thank you for your palpable grace and civility.

                I think the CPA would have been concluded irregardless of the 2002 Nairobi Declaration, which you’re undoubtedly evoking; the declaration merely reaffirmed the agenda, essence and structure of previous meetings and agreements on Self-Determination.

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                • 21 January 15:11, by Rommel

                  There are certain facts that some of us are simply unaware of. There was for example the fact that on the 29th of July [one month prior to the Nasir Declaration], the SPLM/A had informed the Sudanese government that Self-Determination was to be discussed for the Abuja agenda. This is confirmed by Ann Lech’s book titled ’The Battle for Peace in Sudan: An Analysis of Abuja Conferences 1992– 1993’.

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                  • 21 January 15:15, by Rommel

                    The book states on page 22: "the independence option was therefore included in the still-united SPLM’s proposal for the Abuja agenda that was submitted to Nigerian and Sudanese government on 29th July 1991".

                    Page 22 - ’The Battle for Peace in Sudan: An Analysis of Abuja Conferences 1992 – 1993’.

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                    • 21 January 15:22, by Rommel

                      Douglas H. Johnson’s ’The Root Causes of Sudan’s Civil Wars’ puts it this way: "The SPLA was already preparing a new position on self determination in 1991 when the Nasir declaration finally brought the issue of southern Sudanese independence to the fore, not just for debate among southern Sudanese but between southern and northern Sudanese."

                      page 174 - ’The Root Causes of Sudan’s Civil Wars.’

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                      • 21 January 15:43, by Rommel

                        Dr. Garang’s new commitment to Self-Determination on the 29th of July [one month prior to the Nasir Declaration] can only be characterized as tame, dithering and politically expedient. In other words... it was not a reflection of his true political aspirations. Dr. Lam Akol and Dr. Riek Machar *seemed* to have been more uncompromising on the matter.

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                        • 21 January 16:04, by Rommel

                          As for the chimerical or genuine reasons underlying the 1991 split:

                          The Nasir Declaration came into being for the stated reason (s) that Dr. John Garang and the SPLM/A was operating in the absence of democratic ideals and institutions. For a movement that so strenuously promulgated its (pretended) belief in democratic ideals and institutional reforms... it failed completely!

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                          • 21 January 16:28, by Rommel

                            It did not introduce greater transparency & accountability in its own movement, it had in fact committed egregious human rights abuses on a wide scale. Prior to his death, Joseph Oduho lambasted the Nasir faction for being authoritarian. The Nasir faction’s commitment to Self-Determination should also be questioned and distilled for evaluation.

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                            • 21 January 16:41, by Rommel

                              One cannot discount the conspicuous tribal dimensions of the 1991 split. It was more than odd that a movement that claimed to be fighting for greater human rights and Self-Determination would work in concert with Khartoum and unleash Nuer soldiers and Militamen into civilian Dinka localities and cattle-camps in both Greater Upper Nile and eastern Bahr el ghazal.

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                              • 21 January 16:49, by Rommel

                                I have no doubt that a great deal of Nuer rallied to the Nasir faction in the implicit belief that now they would assume the levers of power as a collective...

                                .. displacing the Dinka who ostensibly ruled the movement. It was apparent to the Dinka population that Nasir’s calls for Self-Determination was merely a ploy to attack the Dinka, when our civilians were butchered in the thousands.

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  • 21 January 08:24, by Isme

    I am just responding to the wondering wolf, damn dogs, I hate a very single ill comment on this fucking website, all your comment guys doesn’t make sense cos Murle, Dinka, Nuer Equatorians, We’re all the People of Cush Mightyland of brave. Please guys quit that kind of stupid talk and buy a good sense. Don’t spoil the blood of our beloved Heros who gave themselves as ransom for our Nation.

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  • 21 January 17:25, by Bolman

    the Republic of South Sudan failed to maintianed the security to all the ten States including Capital City Juba

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  • 21 January 23:32, by Bolman

    the Murle Attacker i believe there will be something driving them

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