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CORRECTION: Census shows South Sudan population at 8.2 million: report

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(Corrects second paragraph showing Darfur population from 8.2 million to 7.5 million)

April 13, 2009 (KHARTOUM) – The results of the fifth census conducted last year will show that Southern Sudan account for 20% of the population, a newspaper reported today.

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File photo showing First Vice President of the Republic of Sudan and President of the Government of Southern Sudan Salva Kiir, left, sits after holding a press conference at his home after midnight to mark the launch of a census in Sudan, in Juba, southern Sudan, Tuesday, April 22, 2008 (AP)

The Al-Sahafa independent newspaper quoting “reliable sources” said that the population of Khartoum topped 5 million; Darfur 7.5 million; South Sudan 8.2 million.

Furthermore, the number of displaced Southerners in North Sudan has been reported as 500,000.

The sources said that the South expressed reservation over the results noting that the dispute “may be resolved politically”.

Last week Sudanese census officials expressed satisfaction that the process conducted conforms to the international standards in terms of coverage and impartiality.

The census monitoring and follow up committee chairman Dr. Abdel-Bagi Al-Gailani said that monitors from over 20 countries observed the process and vouched for its integrity.

The South Sudan officials have warned that they will not accept results reflecting its populations as being less than the third of the country.

The fifth Sudan Population and Housing Census, a milestone in the implementation of the 2005 Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) was conducted from 22nd to 30th April 2008. It was the first all inclusive census for people of southern Sudan since the country’s independence in January 1956.

This week the SPLM Secretary General Pagan Amum disclosed that “discrepancies” are behind the delay in releasing the census outcome.

Amum said that “the results may be questionable and we do not know whether it would be valid ground for the upcoming general elections”.

“Probably without the census results we could rely on former statistics such as the 1956 census” he added.

The census will help decide how wealth and power are ought to be shared in Sudan.

The north-south border crosses oilfields producing some 500,000 barrels per day of crude.

But the census committee said today that there were no issues faced in the South and that no objections were raised.

(ST)

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  • 14 April 2009 04:26, by Nile

    can’t wait to cast my vote for south Sudan indepedence in 2011.

    ?? ???? ?? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????? ?? 2011.

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    • 14 April 2009 04:47, by manyok R

      Any number short of 15 million is a joke. South Sudan is more than 8.2 million period. Agreeing to this 8.2 million is a self-defeat. Someone must advice that submissive Slava Kiir to say no this time.

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      • 15 April 2009 04:19, by Daniel Khot Duoth

        The census that shows south sudan population is not true. It is not the real number from South Sudanese.I think that, the people didn’t counted all people from all corners of South Sudan. The people of South Sudan are more than 8.2 million.Secondly, I was watching Lam Akol lastnight talking like a baby who didn’t know anything about his people. It was something amazing watching Lam Akol supporting president of Sudan and also protect him from ICC too. In fact, I didn’t know lam Akol before. I didn’t know him personaly. I was so astonishing to heard from his big mouth saying that, he is going to vote for unity.I believe, we suffered for long time and more people were killed for so many years. Thirdly, we know our friends darfurian living with Northern for long time and protected sudan government with us. How darfurian have been living together for almost sixthy years and now they are fighting for their right in sudan? what do we think about us? Are we going to cooperate with Northern Sudanese. In fact, I am strongly conderm Lam Akol for supporting unity in sudan, while we have been in bushes for our life. The president did not build any single school or hospital in southsudan long time age until now.Please let make sure that, if we vote for unity we lost our chance and we will suffer forever. It is a good ideas to separate from Nothsudan and should have our own country as well as possible. For instance, we need to have our laws because we are christian in South sudan. We will not be rule by sharia law. Hopefully, we need to think about our future and also our next generations. by Daniel Khot Duoth

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        • 16 April 2009 04:25, by mzalendo mwema

          Thank you for your good words.All southerners know Alam and Bona Malwal as Omar’s beggars.They two i have mentioned say some pleasing words to omar’s ears in order to get some dollars.This is thier business.The business of selling their fellow Africans’flesh and blood to arabs.

          Lam is seen by all Africans as a Dr.of madness and Bona is a giant greedy man.Since Anya nya one,he never think of their Africans’ sufferings from the hands of islumic tyrants because of money.

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    • 14 April 2009 08:36, by mathem jech amer

      Dear All

      No reason of rejecting the results. It’s definitely correct! The population of the north must be greater than the south.Why? Quarter of Khartoum population is from the south, leave alone areas like Medani, El Obeid, Darfur, Atbera, Kosti and Goos areas. Goos is a place where many southerners go to search for farms employment and herding of arabs nomad cattle which is payable at the end of contract or in some cases, at the end of the year.

      Hence, I believe half of the populatipon living in the north are southerners. All steets of Khartoum are fully with southerners, I agree with the results.

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    • 14 April 2009 15:52, by mr x

      to all of you southern sudan forget about population of south weaher 1000 people south must still get there indenpenden there is no things that can happen to us,us long we are rule our mother land alone.but for you people look at BBC NOW dr LAM AKOL is talk like the kid infront of world because he is speaking like Bashir instad to be southerns poltitc as SPLM POLTIC PART i myself can not do that in my country or to my people

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    • 15 April 2009 12:09, by Joseph Dut Gak

      Those who have play the dirty game with Census result some time does not means what it means to Us , that is unthinkable less 2 me .

      We didn’t accepted the results which has been manipulated by Khartoum Govt, U think twice before interpreted it how come the
      8 millions fought with 15 millions and 7 millions or U re saying we re strong enough .we re tied of one man show programs
      even 2 millions can have their for self-determination . It is tell us something we have forgotten .
      The year 2011 will be too far if things re emotional back ward
      like this abnormal results .

      Dut Gak

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  • 14 April 2009 06:47, by Dengtaath

    Why Darfur population is equal to South Sudan?
    What bring this equalibrism? Why are they equal population? some body need to investigate this for sure.

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  • 14 April 2009 07:07, by Busta

    Stop that shit.
    what is 8.5 yet Equatorians alone can reach that figure what about Dinks who don’t have family planning in their counties?

    Any fugure which is below 16.8 and so on will not be accepted. To hell with so called Census and God curst the one who will announced it!!

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    • 14 April 2009 08:14, by YihHon Alewei

      There is no single time for you guys commenting without insulting Dinka! What would have happened if Dinka were not born in the Sudan. The whole of you would have been Islamized!

      Dinkas fought on your behalf but you are still not giving them credit for the well done job.

      Civilisation that you always talked about is not see than now in wherever you residing---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I was always draw to this negative conservation by you idiotic people---------------------------------------------------------- damn you---------------------------------------------------Amen---------------------Thank God and his son--------------------------

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  • 14 April 2009 07:18, by ngor martyn jok

    The census results are unacceptable.South Sudan population can never be equal to the Darfur’s.We have now seen unfairness in the census.

    To the South Sudanese politicians,especially the President-Kiir Mayardit-We would surely be expecting a reaction from you this time to disagree with such unfair results.

    South Sudan has been underestimated,and it will never be acceptable.We will rather resort to something in disparity in regards to the coming elections.

    This’s surely proving to all the South Sudanese that there’s no stand behind the Comprehensive peace agreement.What’s fucking Khartoum,should we decide to wage war against the m.

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    • 14 April 2009 08:09, by Labek Bang

      The census result has nothing to do with South Sudan self-determination though it’s shows the less figure of Southerners.

      Still 500,000 Southerners living in Khartoum or in the northern part generally can make South Sudan a country. This is shit and vague figure of the census.

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  • 14 April 2009 07:40, by Zol Waskan

    That is bullshit result of census, sudan is not comprise of southern sudan and Northern sudan only,What about the contested areas of the Nuba mountains, Blue Nile.The census result is fake and corrupt.

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    • 14 April 2009 07:56, by Samani

      WHAT ARE YOU ARROGANT & IGNORANT PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT. A POPULATION LESS THEN 15 MILLION IS NOT ACCEPTABLE ?? WHY ? DID YOU GO ROUND COUNTING THESE PEOPLE. SINCE NON OF YOU ARE QUALIFIED OR EXPERTS IN THE FIELD, ID KEEP THOSE BIG NAGGING MOUTHS SHUT.

      FOR GODS SAKE THESE PEOPLE CANT ACCEPT A CENSUS HOW DO YOU WANT TO TAKE PART IN ELECTIONS? ALL THIS JUST PROVES YOU PEOPLE ARE NOTHING BUT TRIBAL SIMPLE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO IDEA OF DEMOCRACY.

      TO REMIND YOU BLABBERING CRY BABIES, THE SOUTH CENSUS WAS CONDUCTED BY SOUTHERNERS, SO IF YOU HAVE OBJECTIONS OR CRITICISM AIM IT AT YOUR OWN. YOU PEOPLE WERE CRYING AND BLABBERING AND CLAIMING THE NORTH HAD OBSERVERS IN THE SOUTH CENSUS AND THEY WERE SPIES !!!

      I SAY TOUGH TO ALL THOSE THAT DON’T LIKE IT. MAYBE THE REMAINING 6 MILLION OF YOU LIVING IN USA,UK,AUSTRALIA AND KENYA SHOULD RETURN TO GET COUNTED :p

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      • 14 April 2009 14:36, by GOATEE

        I completely agree with each southerner who is rejecting the results. Samani must get the hell out of our southern affairs and stick his water socked ugly arab arse to Bashir’s ICC affairs period

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      • 14 April 2009 15:50, by Micheal Kerkuei

        I want to image that Samani is a Southern Sudanese. However, to my surprise, this character is North-oriented. Samani, be informed that the government of Southern is not objecting at this point, but did so at the onset of the census exercise. Not to misquote like many others you do, I am here to bring to your notice that the reason was none other than logistical problems. As you know our endowed South that experiences rains at the time it rains, your Arab-dominated Khartoum government insisted on immediate carrying out of the exercise. This affected the South in that some areas were inaccessible due to bad weather conditions-it was muddy. This is why we are going to reject your understated figure. Yes, we participated in the exercise, but who compelled us to do so during rainy season in the south?

        Watch out; don’t you ever support non-existing facts. Reason like a good citizen of south Sudan.

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    • 14 April 2009 08:17, by maluach madit

      God grew tire of us in South Sudan to let great people oppose our rights.

      I am/we are so disappointed to have heard/seen the bigest false of south Sudan less population of 8.2 !

      That seems to be unbelievable information and a way of belittled south so that other vulnerable regions go ahead of us or equal to us.

      Dear reporters, I would like to tell you that this news may rejuvenate our war if not put into order.
      Why? because in the dozen of years ago,the poulation was 25 million people, as by today 8.2 !! (that is political mysterious).

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  • 14 April 2009 07:56, by YihHon Alewei

    THE CENSUS RESULTS ARE SOMETHING RATHER THAN A SHAM!

    It is a damn a show for sure! In a country of forty-one million, noway that 8.2 million are the one living in South Sudan. That damn figure can be for equartoria only leave the rest of the territory.

    There must be a recount otherwise, these results should be declared as sham and not accurate.

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    • 14 April 2009 08:30, by maluach madit

      Dear Samani or Darfurian, you are not invited to attend our righteous claim. Though in diaspora, there might be greater number of 18 million in south Sudan.

      You are too low to adjudicate between, aren’t you?

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      • 14 April 2009 09:18, by Frak Cho

        What a pity to hear this result of Census. It’s no longer Census but rather senseless thing taking such period of a year just to hear that cooked figure. How can Dafur be the same with the South? Although one of the hopefulless Equitoria mentioned lack of Family planning in the Dinka Land. This fellow is quick to say thing without first reasoning beyond the nose. Sorry to say this, that if you readers can get time to pay a brief visit to a place like Yei, Munderi, Maredi, Kaya etc, you will not differenciate from the house a first born child and second born or even a third born child. What is that call ...... please get the answer for that by yourself and let me know.

        Can I say some of the people do not what they should write on web page. Please, some hopefulless Equatorians, stop being perfect pretenders and start writng senseable things and not abuses always.

        The point is, South Sudan is Thrice that cooked figure.

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        • 14 April 2009 14:40, by mathem jech amer

          Frak Cho

          You’re right man. U head the point. In addition, where did the word fourty (40) comes from? What does 40 mean to women after birth in Equatoria? Is 40 applicable to women in Bahr el Ghazal, Upper Nile, Jonglei & Abyei?

          Please Equatorians check out yours before complaining about Dinkas. Only Equatorian men don’t like Dinkas but their ladies do.

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    • 14 April 2009 08:37, by Mango

      Dear Readers,
      Why waste time argueing about figures. We have census commission in Southern Sudan, why can’t this commission release the real figures they have compiled. We were counted by our own sons and the data is in the offices here in Juba. I suggest that let our commission tell us our number, period.

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      • 14 April 2009 09:23, by Gatwech

        What will the complainer, Salva Kiir do now?

        South Sudan is cursed with just a president who governs by complaining and not acting. Yes, it was sensed that the population census would not take place since it was not favorable in the South by April last year. It was reported on this website that GOSS Council of Ministers rejected the exercise until the South prepared well. But Salva Kiir went to Khartoum and came back with the opposing new idea that the census should go on in the last minute. So, the result is now shaky.

        The same Salva Kiir warned that he would not accept less than 15 million as South Sudan population. Now that the result is even less than ten, what will he say? As usual, he will just complain that the South has been cheated, when in fact he himself facilitated that cheating. And you will not see him going to Khartoum to face El-Bashir seriously on the issue. Those in Khartoum say when he goes to Khartoum he just talks cowardly and when his request is rejected by Bashir, he just walks away back to the South to complain in Kator Cathedral Church in Juba. What kind of leader is this who chickens away from the Presidency in Khartoum and comes to complain in Juba. Mr. President, no leader succeeds through helpless complaints. Make decisions boldly in the face of El-Bashir. We are not interested in cowardic complaints from a distance.

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        • 14 April 2009 10:27, by Garang Arok

          whether ’jalaba’ call it a genuine census or forged,it will not stop fregmentation of the country why ,because the united sudan idea is becoming less selling in all the demostic regions live alone the outside world.It good impression saying that khartoum alone is 5millions people almost equal to the total population of the south...

          let us wait and see who lives without who..south without north..or north without south..otherwise the CPA was not a compromise,better they call it a stalemate..

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    • 14 April 2009 13:09, by pills

      Dear Brothers and sisters,

      Why should we talk randomly and inscientifically? If Southerners are more than the figure they put, can somebody tell me how many they are? If we don’t know exactly than let us shut up untill we get the right number.

      The confusion that accompanied the general census was created by our indecisive president. After compaigning for so long, he suddenly decided to boycott it, than again he gave in and urged the people to participate. What a childish game!

      Therefore, if there is anybody to blame, it is President Kiir who added confusion over the whole process to the extent that many Southerners lost interest in the exercise and acted negatively during the census. In fact most of the people in Juba were not counted. In my residential area in Juba, no single person was counted.

      Now it is too late to shade tears over the spilled milk. We have to bear our incompetence bravely and accept the census results, becuase it’s the only way through which we can achieve democratic transformation and kick out the current failed government in Juba. Besides, rejecting the result will put SPLM in a pathetic situation before Sudanese people and international community which has worked so hard to see this part of CPA implemented.

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  • 14 April 2009 10:55, by piriit

    Is Southern Sudan account for 20% of the Sudan population? These dullards with no imagination in Khartoum might be crazy otherwise there is need for a new evaluation or even total objection.

    The imputation should go back; only result above 15 millions can be accepted. How can Darfur and the autonomous South Sudan be of same population?

    By Piriit Duom

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    • 14 April 2009 15:31, by Garang Arok

      The word incopitence has been said repeatedly,why don,t we verify the war history to identify who did what.
      To those who are complaining of incapabilities,who do you think is the right leader for GOSS,loro,Igga,Tujambi,Lago[the great failure] ,loleong[the propagand] or the defector.
      Let us stop blames on our selves and look out for the real enemy....

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  • 14 April 2009 17:37, by Daniel

    8.2 M is not the real South Sudan population, I don’t think unity will be attractive a giant the way Jalaba Doing thing

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  • 14 April 2009 18:26, by Ben-Fu

    This should be a wakeup call for our sleepy leaders, who ignored civilians slaughtering.
    It took one week for Lou-Nuer and Murle to commit mass slaughter to each other while our government officials are sitting in Pibor and all over Jonglei payams with phones, which they can use to call for an army intercession

    It will be too late before all our people murdered each other day by day while our enemy is sipping tea and watching TV on our courtyard.

    8million or 2million! Who care? Vote for independence any way
    Eritrea is 3 million and a strong young nation, both North and South Sudan respect Eritrea, for the price for freedom is like getting closer to God and away from bondage.
    We have professional fighters to defend the people and our resource, all we have to do is votes:
    1. Vote to be free and proud citizen of the great land of the mother Nile (Kiir)
    2. Don’t know what to do? Rather remain in bondage and be second-class or slaved citizen in your ancestor conquered land, the Islamic Re-thuggery of Sudan.

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    • 14 April 2009 20:24, by Toney Toney Matot

      Hi,Getwech,
      H.E Salva Kiir is not a coward as you put it.thinks are not done foolishly in a way that it could bring inconvenience out come.put your self in that position of Salva will you really run south sudan for one day? for me i daught you will not manage because even in all your articles you do post on this web site are always criticized by most of the intellectuals due to the fact that you are a bias in the south.you are always involved in instigating tribal conflict like waht Lou Nuer did to Murle. Does this qualify you to be a good leader? please shut up your mouth for you are nothing rather then a traitor.
      Toney-South Sudan

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      • 15 April 2009 06:05, by Dengtaath

        Ladies and gentlement I have read almost all our responses about sensus results, but it seemed our voices and reasons we are producing in relation to opposition of sensus results are falling in one direction. But few people have criticised the complain that citizens of South Sudan have raised against the initial process of sensus,with just simple reason by saying we don,t need to talk much since we were counted by our sons and daughters of South Sudan.

        This is not a good advice, Southerners they can even demonstrate on the streets if they want to, despite the fact that few people claimed that Salva was the one who ordering the population count in South in a wrong season or ccomplicating it that we were counted by our children. People like Samani in his article is one of the bug that Southerners can not tolerate his words, he got nothing to contribute in this situation rather is deteriorating our feelings,I will say shut up since Samani had deeply crossed the line. We can talk about Sensus and we will keep talking is our right.I also dismissed his statement describing Southern Sudanese as people with less expertise in sensus count, all we do are talking but knowing nothing about what is going on, this is baseless claim,is nothing to him. FOR SOUTHERNERS be Nuer, Anuak, Murle, Shiluk, Equarterian and Dinka etc who are always eager in tribal debates or criticising your own great leaders based on your tribal conflict of interest, please is a big degrading on your own a lone. Please all of us are leaders and that is why we are always talking, you have rights to criticise the weaknesses but when mentioned about that particular leader’s tribe to whom your criticism are based, it alays washed away all your reasons you produced against that leader.I thought people of South Sudan they can learn from the past, there had never been an easy time for Southerners, what do we want again? the war between SPLA and Anya nya two was like hell, after that the war between Garang and Riek was like nothing beyond it.Now do we want to create another war which I am confident about, it will happen by all mean, don,t only dream it, belief it, it will if you don’t change that reckless behavior.Let fight corruption is not about Dinka or alike, is about system with out laws and ignorant of human rights,Salva can be defeated by the country laws, if is not fighting corruption we can vote him down after referundom, is not a big thing unless South Sudan will not accept democracy. Let us stop describing Salva as Dinka, that language can eventually trigger tribal confrontation.God bless all

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